#homophobia

All about the Gay Agenda

Alex Jones #conspiracy #homophobia youtube.com

(Transscript of video)
In the interval [?] the Pentagon just tested a gay bomb on Iraq, they considered it, they didn’t [?] consider using it, they used it on our troops, in Vietnam, they sprayed PCP on our troops - Jacob’s Ladder - ha - you think PCP - some horse tranquilizers or something? They got some stuff that’ll whack your brain permanently.
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Brain chips in the troops. They give the troops special vaccines that really [?] nanotech that auto[?]-re-engineers their brains.
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Now there is the gay bomb.
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Look it up for yourself, this is what do you think tap water is, it’s a gay bomb, baby.
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And I’m not saying people didn’t naturally have homosexual feelings, I’m not even getting into it, quite frankly, give me a break. You think I… I’m, like, shocked by it [?] [incomprehensible] bashing it because I don’t like gay people. I DON’T LIKE THEM PUTTING CHEMICALS IN THE WATER! THEY TURN THE FRICKING FROGS GAY!
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Do you understand that?
Ungh! Ungh! Ungh! Ungh! [bangs paper on table]
Crap!
I’m sick of being socially engineered! It’s not funny!

David Noebel and others #wingnut #homophobia splcenter.org

In 1986, [David Noebel] teamed up with Paul Cameron (see Family Research Institute) and then-Summit instructor Wayne Lutton, currently a leader in the white-supremacist Council of Conservative Citizens, to write Special Report: AIDS, which became one of the most controversial anti-gay tracts ever published.

Pat Buchanan's blurb on the back cover sums up the spirit of this Special Report: "In a healthy society," Buchanan writes, homosexuality is "contained, segregated, controlled and stigmatized."

Bolstered by Cameron's studies alleging that gay people were intentionally spreading the AIDS virus, Special Report proposes a number of means to "suppress" the outbreak, concluding that it might become necessary to "exile" all "active homosexuals" from America.

Summit continues to preach anti-gay propaganda to the next generation of fundamentalist activists, with Mike Haley, an "ex-gay" campaigner who is Focus on the Family's "youth and gender specialist" and author of a book called Straight Answers: Exposing the Myths and Facts about Homosexuality, currently on the faculty.

dash #fundie #homophobia freejesus.net

[Re: AIDS] It's transfered through blood and there for, seeing as it started in the homosexually community, a sign from god that we cannot suffer homosexuals to live. It's common sense.

god is basically saying that if we don't kill all homo's that we will all be judged now and die.

spinBuster #fundie #homophobia forums.wnd.com

Homosexuals have invented nicer and friendlier words [“gay” and “lesbian”] to describe themselves that are not “offensive” to them. They put the colloquial axiom “homosexual” in the same category as the dreaded term “faggot” and other words that have evolved to refer to their disgusting behavior; both are offensive to them because the terms are interchangeable, and both identify their immoral and degenerate nature...

Up to this point it is not against the law to use ANY of these words. Free speech is still an American right. The homosexuals use plenty of invective and offensive language against Christians and others for what we believe; they consider God’s Holy Word to be “hate speech.” So, they have absolutely no platform to stand on and complain when someone labels them with language that describes what they are. My God calls homosexual behavior detestable [inspiring or deserving abhorrence or scorn—Synonyms: execrable, abhorrent, loathsome, odious, vile] and an abomination [a vile, shameful, or detestable action, condition, habit, etc.]. I believe Him. The “lifestyle”—homosexuality, IS OFFENSIVE TO US!

It is at this point that I need to invoke Article II of the Bill of No Rights, which says, “You [homosexuals] do not have the right to never be offended. The country is based on freedom, and that means freedom for everyone - not just you! You may leave the room, turn the channel, express a different opinion, etc., but the world is full of idiots, and probably always will be.” If someone labels you a faggot, it’s because you are acting like one. To this I would say, “Get over it, or change your degenerate homosexual lifestyle.” It is my 1ST Amendment right.

LittleNipper #homophobia christianforums.com

There is no logical reason the government should care if a homosexual couple wants their sexual relationship recognized. Only heterosexual relationships will provide men for the military and not homosexual ones... The prime objestive of any government is to nuture an army of qualified recuits. Homosexual realtionships cannot provide recuits because homosexual sex canot produse babies. In fact, homosexual relations will either prevent natural conception or it will instigate another reason a marriage to fail or babies to be born without both the posibility of both a godly MOTHER and FATHER.
*Note: anyone may be a sperm donor or carry a baby to term. Not everyone is worthy of being called a MOTHER or a FATHER.

Donnie Davies #homophobia donniedavies.com

While I'm not advocating jailing all Homosexuals, I do think it would benefit them greatly. It would be for their own good. When a person is forced to think they will generally be able to see their problems and solve them by themselves.

Jim Rudd #fundie #homophobia covenantnews.com

Civil officials have a God ordained duty to execute sodomites.

The word of God commands, "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them" (Lev.20:13).

Have we not been taught that homosexuality is an abomination (Lev.18:22). And those who engage in homosexuality are so vile that their very presence defiles the land and its inhabitants (Lev.18:25-28).

This sodomite defilement brings eternal damnation upon all who approve of homosexuality (Rom.1:32, 13:2) and brings God's righteous judgment of punishment and death on the society as a whole (Gen.19:24-25, II Pet.2:6).

The Magistrate, in his proper role, "beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to [execute] wrath upon him that doeth evil" (Rom.13:4).

Since Magistrates have such a sure Biblical mandate to protect the innocent people in society by using the sword to execute sodomites (he that doeth evil), why then, are Christians encouraging civil officials to ignore the commandments of God concerning homosexuality?

Lazarus #fundie #homophobia freeconservatives.com

God has clearly condemned homosexuality as a sexual perversion - its spelled out plainly in the scriptures...
There is nothing genetic or natural about it... It is a volitional choice made by the individual... All this talk of genetics is nothing but Satanic disinformation... Nothing about homosexuality is accpetable... If you accept homosexuality as a legitimate alternate lifestyle, then so also must you accept pedaphilia, necrophilia, and bestiality as legitimate alternatives...

felixthecat #fundie #homophobia rr-bb.com

They're trying to have Christians refrain from using them as symbols. It's another sly way of erasing God. No Christian would want to be confused with supporting homosexuality and they KNOW that.

When I purchase a rainbow, I MAKE SURE, it has clouds on it to make sure there is NO MISTAKE that I do NOT support homosexuality. I almost made the mistake in purchasing a rainbow garden flag without the clouds. They use a rainbow flag to show support for homosexuality. I had to explain to my daughter WHY the garden flag had to have clouds on it - to distinguish it from supporting perversion - at 7 1/2 yers old ... I had to go into this stuff ... THAT also makes me mad.

THe same is true of homosexuals wanting to be married - they don't want that ... homosexuals want to remove the meaning of marriage and mock it.

Anonymous Poster #fundie #homophobia ginmar.livejournal.com

Congratulations! This proves that homosexuality is a sin and not God-given like so many homosexuals believe. It clearly states in the Bible that any union between to members of the same sex is wrong, especially when it is a sexual union. Many a homosexual, as I know you know, will use the excuse that God mad him or her and because he or she is homosexual it must be God-given since God made them. This excuse could not be further from what God says in the Bible. I call it an excuse because that's exactly what it is: an excuse! People will come up with any kind of an excuse to continue doing the sin that they want to do. When I totally gave my life over to God I was able to overcome a sin I thought I would never ever ever be able to ever stop doing: the sin of masturbation. I was plagued by this sin for years. I knew it was wrong but just could not stop it to save my life. I attribute it to my Roman Catholic up-bringing. As a Catholic, the only way to confess sin is to another sinner in the guise of a priest and then keep mute about it. After the confession the priest would give a penance which, upon doing whatever the penance was, would absolve you from your sins. When I converted over to discipleship which teaches to confess your sins to God by sharing them to others so that, as a team, one can help the other overcome them. Man is too weak to even think, let alone act, alone on a sin because Satin is just too strong. As the old saying goes: "There is strength in numbers." The more an individual believes in God the stronger He gets. Combine the belief of a number of individuals and the strength of God gets even stronger. The devil does not have this ability, therefore weakens before God. This is how I was able to defeat masturbation. I now have replaced lust with God in my heart because I have made God stronger than the devilish sin of masturbation. To God be the glory!

Gipper #fundie #homophobia christianforums.com

[If homosexual relations (for example) are against God's law, then would you believe that not only gay marriage would be wrong, but any kind of gay sexual activity? If so, what penalties do you think would be appropriate for breaking this law?]

Well the Bible calls for death but he who is without sin and all. I only think they should be fined or jailed.

[Other than being unConstitutional and impossible to enforce, not to mention making criminals of normal people...]

Its not normal. We put people with mental disturbancies in asylums don't we? As homosexuality is a mental disturbance they should be put in asylums for mental help and spiritual guidance.

[How would we go about legally handling the issue of straight couples who engage in "homosexual sex acts" and homosexuals who engage in acts shared between heterosexuals?]

Assuming they don't get caught there's nothing the government can do. If they get caught thought then they should at least be fined and probably have mandatory therapy.

Pastor James Brandt #fundie #magick #homophobia revivalchristian.org

You need to know that Satan and evil spirits are very strategic. Jesus said in John 10:10a that it is the thief that comes to steal, kill, and to destroy. That is the goal of our spiritual enemies, but how they go about to accomplish that in a person’s life is very much planned out and strategic. Satan and evil spirits tempt a person in the weak areas of their life. Where do these weaknesses come from in a person’s life? There are many different ways that demons gain entrance into a person’s life: generational curses, evil soul-ties, doors of sin that you opened in your own life, or something that someone did to you, such as molestation, rape, abuse, rejection, and abandonment to name a few.

Generational curses trip many people up in life---including Christians. Simply put, generational curses are legal rights or open doors for demons to torment a person and a family line with a weakness to a specific sin or an infirmity until it is broken in the Name of Jesus. How is it that a Pastor of a mega-church falls into the sin of homosexuality? The Bible says that homosexuality is a sin and an abomination in the sight of God (Lev. 20:13; Romans 1:26-27). I can guarantee that a person that is homosexual has one of two things happening in their life or both. First, many times if you dig into the family history of a homosexual, you will find out that several family members had that same weakness in their life; a generational curse is present in the family line. Secondly, that individual was molested, raped, or abused, which caused them to turn to a perverted and sinful lifestyle. God loves the person, but He hates the sin and expects them to repent and seek spiritual help. Just because a generational curse is active in your life, you still have the ability to resist the sin. It is simply a legal right for the enemy to torment you in your life until it is broken in the Name of Jesus.

Fred Hutchison #fundie #homophobia renewamerica.us

The immediate consequences of saying no to the gay agenda are sometimes spectacular. Those who have experience debating homosexuals understand that if one exposes the dreadful realities of gay sexuality, the fallacies of gay arguments, or the public dangers of the gay agenda, homosexual opponents will sometimes throw temper tantrums and shout personal insults. Those who have never encountered this phenomenon have probably not debated many gays.

Should we walk on eggshells to avoid offending gays? No—but we need not use unnecessary roughness. Mere truth is very potent by itself, and we actually diminish the force of truth if we use words or actions that are more forceful that the circumstances require. Those who trust in the power of truth feel no need to shout.

When one speaks truth and says no to evil, the agendas of evil are exposed and resisted, and the momentum of evil is broken and thrown back in confusion. The tantrums, insults, and threats that might ensue are a manifest sign of the confusion and moral weakness of the wicked. We can claim victory only if we remain calm, reasonable, and resolute. “And in nothing be terrified by your adversaries, which is to them an evident token of perdition, but to you of salvation, and that of God.” (Philippians 1:28) When we remain calm, respectful, rational, unafraid, and steadfast in our stand for the truth in the face of the threatenings and slanders of the wicked, it is a visible sign of victory for us. The misbehavior of the wicked is a shame to them.

Interestingly, our battle is not one of good versus evil, but of truth versus evil. Evil always concocts a lie that confutes truth. As Christians, we have authority to speak truth, but we have no grounds to claim to be good. The only goodness we have the right to claim is Christ's goodness imputed to our account and working within us, not as the reward of merit, but as an undeserved benefaction received by faith. In contrast, when we oppose evil, we have the right to say, “This is Truth, and Here I Stand,” to paraphrase the famous words of Luther

Robert T. Lee #fundie #homophobia #forced-birth #sexist #wingnut tencommandments.org

What the heathen Statue of Liberty really means


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Freedom to seek asylum in America from the rightful stigmatization of true criminality in other nations

Freedom to practice homosexuality or lesbianism

Freedom to murder innocent human embryos and fetuses

Freedom to publicly blaspheme God

Freedom to worship satan (Note: we do not capitalize the word satan even when it begins a sentence).

Freedom to practice obstetrics and gynecology as a male physician

Freedom to make and sell pornography

Freedom from the death penalty for death-worthy crimes

Freedom to abandon children to daycare and public schools while seeking the fleeting American dream.

Freedom to make a living off foolish, vain and immoral employment.

Freedom to abandon parents to nursing homes.

Freedom to wrongly serve in government as homosexuals, lesbians and other high criminals.

Freedom for women to foolishly seek to be equal with men.

Freedom to foolishly petition the government for immoral interests.

Freedom to receive food stamps, veteran benefits and other federal financial benefits while a criminal or muderer in prison.

Freedom to elect moral criminals such as homosexuals, lebians, murderers, robbers and other criminals to government positions.

Freedom to make heroes and celebrities out of deathworthy criminals.

Freedom to sell and purchase crime tools and art of muderers.

Freedom to produce and make megabucks off violent and murderous video games, toys, movies and music in order to teach children how to become violent and murderers.

NARTH #homophobia truthwinsout.org

Nicolosi co-founded NARTH in 1992 and has served as the organization’s leader since its inception. From the beginning, the group combined a combatively homophobic agenda with bizarre pseudoscientific theories. For example, Dr. Nicolosi has said factors in the causation of homosexuality include “fear of tall bridges” a “phobia of the phone” and once claimed that gay men are more likely to be “pee shy.”

He has encouraged his clients to become more masculine by drinking Gatorade and calling friends “dude.” The doctor also applauded a patient in one of his books as making progress toward heterosexuality after he didn’t give a man his phone number at a bathhouse after they already had sex. Even more ludicrous is Nicolosi’s notion that, “non-homosexual men who experience defeat and failure may also experience homosexual fantasies or dreams.”

NARTH does not keep track of its failure rate. When asked by a Newsweek reporter why he kept no statistics, Nicolosi claimed, “I don’t have time.” More troubling is that Nicolosi does have the time to analyze children as young as three, telling the Advocate magazine that, “It’s my job to increase the possibility of a heterosexual future for these effeminate boys.”

NARTH member Dr. Jeffrey Satinover once reported that Prozac might be a cure for homosexuality. Another major NARTH contributor is Holocaust revisionist Scott Lively, co-author of The Pink Swastika, a book that partially blamed gay people for the Holocaust. “The Pink Swastika will show that there was far more brutality, torture, and murder committed against innocent people by Nazi deviants and homosexuals than there ever was against homosexuals,” wrote co-author Kevin E. Abrams in the preface describing the book.

The organization’s methods are so eccentric and bizarre that the American Psychological Association specifically condemned NARTH by name at the APA’s annual convention in August.

coadie #homophobia christiandiscussionforums.org

The closest thing to a published "gay agenda", and what is (far as I know) exclusively quoted as such, is:
"After the Ball. -How America Will Conquer Its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the 90's" By Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen, published in 1989... A couple found comments regarding this "Gay Manifesto": 1~ "...this book became the authoritative public relations manual for the homosexual agenda, and its authors presented the book as a distillation of public relations advice for the homosexual community." 2~ "...This book is a blueprint for gay activists for applying brainwashing techniques developed by the totalitarian regime of Communist China." 3~"...Most gay people, and most proponents of gay rights have never read or even heard of the book."

James Rutz #quack #homophobia americablog.blogspot.com

There's a slow poison out there that's severely damaging our children and threatening to tear apart our culture....

The dangerous food I'm speaking of is soy. Soybean products are feminizing, and they're all over the place....

Unfortunately, when you eat or drink a lot of soy stuff, you're also getting substantial quantities of estrogens.

Estrogens are female hormones. If you're a woman, you're flooding your system with a substance it can't handle in surplus. If you're a man, you're suppressing your masculinity and stimulating your "female side," physically and mentally....

Soy is feminizing, and commonly leads to a decrease in the size of the penis, sexual confusion and homosexuality. That's why most of the medical (not socio-spiritual) blame for today's rise in homosexuality must fall upon the rise in soy formula and other soy products.

Jim Rutz #quack #homophobia wnd.com

Soy is feminizing, and commonly leads to a decrease in the size of the penis, sexual confusion and homosexuality. That's why most of the medical (not socio-spiritual) blame for today's rise in homosexuality must fall upon the rise in soy formula and other soy products. (Most babies are bottle-fed during some part of their infancy, and one-fourth of them are getting soy milk!) Homosexuals often argue that their homosexuality is inborn because "I can't remember a time when I wasn't homosexual." No, homosexuality is always deviant. But now many of them can truthfully say that they can't remember a time when excess estrogen wasn't influencing them.

Betty #fundie #homophobia unidiversal.com

Just recently my son Bobby came out to me. I had been worried for awhile. His teachers said most of his grades were slipping and he seemed depressed and withdrawn.

Bobby said he'd been hiding it for awhile because he was afraid I would reject him. I sat him down and told him that I loved him and that God loved him, but that his salvation was in danger if he did not resist his unnatural tempations. I told him how being gay would mean he would live a shorter life, and that if he couldnt change his orientation he could be celibate like most the ex-gays are. He started crying saying something along the lines of "I knew you wouldnt understand! You're just like everyone else!" before running to his room and slamming the door.

What did I do wrong? I dont want to lose my son, but I fear I already have. I talked it over with his therapist, who had the ludicrous idea that homosexuality was unchangable and that trying to repress could lead to lots of psychological damage (I've dropped him and will try to be finding another therapist with more moral beliefs). I wouldnt be surprised if he's the one who's feeding my son all the homosexual propaganda about how its 'ok' to be gay. That, or how homosexuality has engulfed the media, making it seem 'cool' and 'hip' and how they were just another oppressed minority. You didnt have to worry about seeing two men making out on tv at my age! I dont want to sound like a fanatic, but Im worried what other effects will come out of this increasingly secular, immoral society obsessed with filth.

Am I too late? Or is it possible to save my son


[Note: the boy eventually took his own life.]

christdependent #fundie #homophobia christiandiscussionforums.org

(1)portraying fundamentalist Christianity as sinister, dangerous, and antiquated, while (2) picking on those poor little homosexuals and trying to establish a theocracy to impose their moral values, like the Nazis, etc.

Just another appeal to emotions, the psychological strategy being to pit one emotion (fear) against the other (hatred), labelling those who oppose the homosexual agenda as the latter, who are actually to be feared. Middle-of-the-road Christians are the target of these appeals, as these activists have properly identified those who refuse to budge from WHAT IS WRITTEN as being beyond their sway.

Relic #homophobia christianforums.net

[You should excuse the expression, but how does one get 'initiated' into homosexuality?]

Sadly! We know it is only some of the many ways they try to initiate by molestation of our children and young adults.

Another way they try to initiate our children into homosexuality is by using a very subtle form of molestation and one that is also very offensive in that it perverts the minds of innocent young children, is to write vulgar books about homosexual relationships and read them to children in kindergarten and 7 year old children in the 2nd grade! They dare to introduce these teaching into the school systems curriculum to our very very young children , as if it to be a "normal" type of relationship. Another way is to write books about teens having explicit homosexual acts and show them to kids in high school and give children sex education classes which shows them how to have so called safe sex with the same sex. Those are just a few of the many ways in which the homosexual pedophiles (called pederasts) use as part of Their Agenda to initiate and brainwash the minds of our babies and young adults without our consent!

Relic #homophobia #quack christianforums.net

[Relic thinks he's found the cure for homosexuality]

Everyone knows the Physical can be treated by doctors that aren't type who are nothing but butchers or money hungry vultures. Nothing like a good dose of testosterone when it is lacking or, in the case of women estrogen. If it is not physical, it is a mental condition. Both can be treated properly, And, Christ Jeus teaches the healing and overcoming of any malady. Even to those who are physically disabled in other ways.

If a person is depressed do we advocate for them to stay in the depressed state of being? NO. So then, why do you advocate for the person who has a chemical imbalance to stay in the homosexual state of being if what is out of balance in their bodies are their testosterone or estrogen levels?

Rick Santorum #homophobia usatoday.com

I have no problem with homosexuality. I have a problem with homosexual acts. As I would with acts of other, what I would consider to be, acts outside of traditional heterosexual relationships. And that includes a variety of different acts, not just homosexual. I have nothing, absolutely nothing against anyone who's homosexual. If that's their orientation, then I accept that. And I have no problem with someone who has other orientations. The question is, do you act upon those orientations? So it's not the person, it's the person's actions. And you have to separate the person from their actions.

Mission America #fundie #homophobia missionamerica.com

[From an essay "Talking Points on World AIDS Day for Christian Parents", the rest of which is insane as well]

If we eliminated homosexual male sex and intravenous drug use, HIV would be reduced by at least three fourths in this country. Both are unnecessary, chosen behaviors. Schools need to make sure this point is absolutely clear in the minds of every student in health education.
[...]
Attacking AIDS through wide distribution of condoms is a complete failure. Do we want to keep promoting sex, or do we want to save lives? Or- do some influential people have financial ties to the condom and contraceptive manufacturers? Is this an example of corruption and big business at work in exploiting poor Third World people?
[...]
If homosexual sex is a leading cause of HIV in the U.S., doesn't it make sense to teach people to not engage in these acts? Perhaps "gay" social establishments should close until the HIV rates are severely reduced. And no students should be encouraged to enter homosexuality through "gay" clubs or tolerance lessons.

The Redemption Army #fundie #homophobia forums.jolt.co.uk

God created AIDs to punish the Homosexuals. since then, it has been spread by "Bisexuals" who have carried it over to straight women, who then, in their promiscuity, spread it to other male partners. It is a Gay disease, because the Homosexuals are responsible for it, and the blood of any innocents, including innocent children and those who acquired it through blood transfusions, is on their hands.

The Redemption Army #fundie #wingnut #conspiracy #homophobia forums.jolt.co.uk

A month ago, we as a nation were stupid enough, blind enough, to elect a Democrat government. I give thanks to God above that the President has not been unseated. The Democrats speak with the voice of Satan, and now they write our laws, inspired as they are, by the devil. They want to remove God's word and teaching from our schools, they want to tear down the monuments of our faith, they want to turn us into an atheist nation, like those of the failed Communists and evil Nazis. They itch to surrender our land, and the promised land of the Jews in israel, to the Muslims, who would use the land to further their endless crusade against all good christians. And they seek to put the homosexuals up with the Atheists, in rulership of our nation. Soon, we will no doubt see laws going so far as to encourage homosexuality, and we will see droves convert from being good christians to being Homosexual atheists.
This did not have to be. President Bush and the Republican Party, are the chosen representatives of God in our nation. They have been following the true agenda of God, to punish Homosexuals, and to put God's name and word in prominant places. This is truly one nation Under God, though the Democrats would like you to forget that.

lioninoil #fundie #homophobia #sexist christianforums.com

[Have u ever found something in the bible that u didn't like?]

When you find something in the Bible that you don't like, most likely it's the Holy Spirit convicting YOU on something which is going on in YOUR life.

Homosexuals don't like Leviticus 18 and 20, Romans 1, 1 Corinthians 5 or 6, or Jude -- and yet, homosexuals know intuitively that their choice of lifestyle is WRONG, that it is SINFUL, and the Holy Spirit is trying to convict them to get them to repent of their homosexuality and move back to normal, God-given heterosexuality.

Women, particularly feminist women, don't like 1 Corinthians 14 or 1 Timothy 2 which forbids women from speaking in churches, teaching in churches, or having any authority over men -- and yet, women know intuitively that God created Adam FIRST, THEN Eve from Adam; that God came to earth as a male (not a female), and the natural order is God - husband - wife - children. This exists all throughout nature and also in all human societies. Dogs and cats know this. Horses and cows know this. All of animalkind accepts this -- except humans, who think they have the right to go against God's Natural Order where women are "equal" to men. Christ grants a degree of equality to women, but women have their own sphere of influence just as men have their own sphere.

Yes indeed - when we don't like a part of the Bible, it's usually because the Holy Spirit is working on something in us which GOD doesn't like!

GOD'S LAW IS CLEAR -- THE PENALTY SEVERE!!!

isi4h #fundie #homophobia endtimesactivists.org

[After a new member introduced himself to the forum, and stated he was gay, and a Christian.]

Isn't that like saying I'm a thief....but I'm a christian ? or I'm a liar...but I'm a christian, or I do witchcraft...but I'm a christian. Before you say I'm judging you. I am not ,but can you picture yourself standing before The Most High and saying you honestly thought it was ok for a man to put his penis in another man's anus, which is what homosexuality is.
Leviticus 20:13
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination......
And before you call me homophobic I am not scared of homosexuals.
And don't try and tell me that homophobic means someone who dislikes homosexuals, I don't do double-speak. If i was agoraphobic i'd be scared of open spaces, if i suffered from arachnophobia, i'd be scared of spiders, so how does adding the same suffix to homo have a different meaning all of a sudden.My beliefs about homsexuality are not 'irrational' they are based on scripture.
I'll be praying for you.
And welcome to the forum.

lioninoil #fundie #homophobia christianforums.com

[Replying to article “Public execution of gay man in Iran met with cheers”.]

Consider this: do you see homosexual “pride” marches in Iran? No.

Do you see mincing, swishing “queens” parading down the streets in Iran? No.

Do you see homosexuals creating a public nuisance by congregating in homosexual bars in Iran? No.

Do you see homosexuals demanding that the institution of marriage between one man and one woman being discarded so as to include homosexual “relationships” in Iran? No.

Do homosexuals know their place in Iran, and are homosexuals shoved back into the closet just about as far as they will go? YES.

Michael Savage #fundie #homophobia mediamatters.org

And I want to tell you something, and I'm going to say it to you loud and clear. The radical homosexual agenda will not stop until religion is outlawed in this country. Make no mistake about it. They're all not nice decorators. You better get it through your head before it's too late. They threaten your very survival. They went after the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church is now caving into the homosexual mafia. They will not stop until they force their agenda down your throats. Gay marriage is just the tip of the iceberg. They want full and total subjugation of this society to their agenda. Now, if you want that and if you don't think it's a threat -- believe me, that is what's going to occur in this country.

PaulAckermann #fundie #homophobia #kinkshaming christianforums.com

[On why masturbation is a sin...]

The Bible clearly teaches homosexuality is a sin. The reason homosexuality is a sin is because God created sex between a man and a woman. Since man was not intended to give sexual pleasure to a another man, it is sin. But it is sin for a man to give sexual pleasure to another man, why would it be acceptable for a man to give sexual pleasure to himself?

Please excuse my graphical illustration here, but I think it is needed to make a point. Why would it be wrong for a man to take his hand and give me sexual pleasure with his hand, and yet it be OK for me to use my own hand to give myself sexual pleasure??? In both cases, the hand that is giving me sexual pleasure would be a man's hand!

Conservative Atheist #homophobia forum.myspace.com

Oh why am I wasting my time on you?....lol Ok I will make an exception just this one time.

Even though as humans we can deviate our sexual behavior for pleasure the sex act its self is designed through the evolutionary process to ontinue life. Homosexual activity does not continue life. Yes people can commit homosexual acts and yes they can be homosexuals but it serves no obvious purpose.

To claim its justified due to the fact that it has existed so long could also be applied to diabetes or any number of other genetic birth defects.

Keith #homophobia forum.myspace.com

[Gay Mariage should be legal. Im not gay I know being it is against God But thats ME.]

Ok seriously, if everyone had your type of mindset, this would be one screwed up nation. If we should tolerate gay marriage, why not tolerate guys marrying dogs. Why not tolerate murderers and rapists. Why not tolerate serial killers. I mean seriously, when are we going TO START STANDING UP FOR WHAT IS RIGHT! Come on guys.

[ok your comparing having two people marrying to people marry animals and murders and rapist. what the hell is wrong with you?]

marriage is defined as one man one woman, if u allow one thing outside of that, why not allow another?

Linda #homophobia #fundie gogoodnews.net

I am a bit troubled. I believe my son has a girlfriend, because she left a dirty magazine with men in it under his bed. My son is only 16 and I really don't think he's ready to date yet. What's worse is that he's sneaking some girl to his room behind my back. I need help, God! I want my son to stop being so secretive!

Mr. Coulter #homophobia godorscience.com

Now, no one said a buttfucker couldnt get married. A buttfucker can fuck a butt before he gets married, and a buttfucker can fuck a butt after he gets married. He can butt fuck until his little queer heart stops beating or until he is consumed by AIDS. He just cant marry that butt he is fucking. He has to marry a woman to be legally and socially recognized as married. He can name that butt he is fucking, Mary, and when he gets the penchant for buggary he can be creative and say, "I am going to get Mary." That is completely creative and legal. [...]

And quite frankly, 'butt fucking libbys' and 'a bunch of pedo faggots'- I DONT see the difference. Please enlighten.

Prayerrist #homophobia #fundie freeconservatives.com

Book, I must agree. Homosexuals are genetically defective, a defect that makes them turn away from God. Unfortunately the spread of this defective gene is hard to stop, since gays remain in the closet and marry for to plant their seed, then later proclaim their homosexuality. At this point the damage is done. Another problem is donating to sperm banks. Some are visibly too gay to even fool a woman into having relations with, and donate to sperm banks so women, *unknowingly*, birth their genetically defective children. I shudder to think of what these Godless criminals will think of next!

[Upon hearing this comment, a moderator stepped in and told Prayerrist he is a disgrace to Christianity and to leave the discussion!]

Mr. Coulter #homophobia godorscience.com

(Said in response to http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/10/10/D8KM29O01.html)

We need a law prohibitting homosexuality, like it or not.

[A bigger hazard to society is YOU felk - we need to prevent people like you from having contact with kids]

I will pay for the monitary reward if this is NOT a situation that happened between a man and a boy. Here, right here, we have another homo preying on a child. And BEFORE he is convicted or faces trial, his religious leaders file for bankruptcy protection. INCREDIBLE! And all ding-dong can say is that I am the bigger danger to children.

Show me 1, JUST ONE, benefit homosexuality has brought to society, our society.

perigrini #homophobia fulfilledprophecy.com

[Homosexual Behavior in Animals]

My degree is in psychology. At one point I read a study about increasing populations. As I recall, the animal used were mice.

Initially they observed a set population for a specific sized area. They counted the rate of violent and homosexual acts the mice did over time.

They then increased the population and observed again. They continued to increase the population density and observe changes in violence and homosexual behavior.

What the study indicated was that as population increased there was a matching increase in violence and homosexual behavior.

Of course one must be careful when extrapolating animal behavior to humans (although clearly the "scientists" observing in the OP aren't interested in being so careful), but is it any wonder when we observe that when humans live in denser populations there is also an increase in violence and homosexual behavior?

Of course such a study would be rejected by the homosexual community because it puts homosexuality in the light of anti-social behavior. It simply isn't PC to identify the truth.

ArcticFox #fundie #homophobia christianforums.com

In ancient times homosexuality was prevelant in such a way that the writers of the Scriptures felt the need to address the issue specifically. What did they have to say? Although it is not extensive, it is very clear from what exists that homosexual practices are considered a form of sexual deviancy. Romans chapter 1 does the best job of stating this, for homosexual practices are likened to exchanging the glory of God for worthless idols. Somehow, in the mind of Paul (and I believe the inspired writings of Paul), homosexual practices are a form of idolatry and the sacrificing of God's glory for a ‘dark’ purposes.

There are other verses addressing this issue. I am not sure if they were mentioned, but I would assume so. To the original poster: if you desire, please ask and you will be provided with the necessary Scriptural passages. I don’t believe, however, that is your main concern.

I do believe that your main concern is about how to love your neighbor. First, I implore you to consider what standard you consider absolute. Do you believe that standards can ‘drift’ over time, shifting to fit the needs of an ever-changing society? Or do you believe that there is one standard by which every society in every generation must answer to? We see laws come and go with governments, should we expect the same for religious customs and beliefs?

My firm belief is that the Bible stands as a testament to what God has to say to the world, and that through this medium he speaks words of power that are fully capable of bringing about all that he plans. I believe that this word of the living God teaches us to abhor certain practices labeled as ‘evil;’ homosexual acts are one such practice. They are lumped together with lying, stealing, murdering, adultery, haughtiness, boastfulness, gossip, etc. (Romans 1:28-32)

So how do we love people who claim that they are ‘homosexual?’ Do we consider someone who murders a ‘murderer’ in the sense that a murderer is who he is? Or do we treat a murderer as someone who commits an action that can be repented of and forgiven, allowing progress to be made? Do we consider a pedophile as having a character trait, or a character flaw that needs correction?

The idea of someone ‘being homosexual’ is a language issue in English that can prevent good discourse from happening. We label individuals as if that is part of their identity, and no doubt many claim that it IS indeed part of their identity. I do not believe so. I do not believe that homosexuality is any more a part of their identity than adultery is part of someone’s identity. I do not consider someone a lifetime ‘adulterer’ with such as their identity; I consider an action or a lifestyle choice (if they continue in it).

I consider someone a ‘Christian’ in their identity because I believe they are brought into a new identity in Christ (according to Scripture). I believe this then becomes part of who they are, and it is central to their being.

I believe homosexuality is different. Our desires are a combination of natural, built-in desires and those that are programmed into us by our greater culture (society as a whole, i.e. Japan, China, Kenya, etc.), our immediate culture (family/friends/etc), and by ourselves (our own choices, resolves, etc). Having grown up in the states (US), I took to playing chess. I love the game. Now that I live in Japan, I hardly ever play; why is that? It’s because one culture instilled in me a desire for something that is common and popular, while the other culture began removing that desire by lack of presence.

After all, how many of you crave sanshoku dango? Or how many of you crave Melon Pan? This are two of my favorite snack foods in Japan, and the craving for these things was non-existant before I came here and began eating them. You cannot crave what you have no experience with. That is not saying that you are unable to crave something because you didn’t try it; I’m saying you’re unable to crave something that you are unaware of.

How far can someone claim that their homosexual desires are inherent? If they are, is that justification for the practice? After all, some people are inherently more aggressive, but we never use this argument as justification for unwarranted violence. should we not expect the result of sin corrupting the world to end with unholy desires in us? How far can a pedophile or practicer of beastiality claim inherent desire? Where does a culture draw the line and label one ‘deviant sexual practice’ and label the other ‘accepted, inherent sexual desire.’

Do you consider a person ‘homosexual’ if they have never had relations with an individual of their own gender? If so, that put it on the same level as heterosexuality (something we DO all generally consider inherent and a part of our identity). What about people who consider themselves heterosexual, have never practied homosexuality, yet have occasionally had such thoughts or desires? What label do they carry?

Let me end with a short story that should illustrate the point. It should show how our labels may actually be limiting people who otherwise should not be limited:

I once knew someone who grew up quite normally. Catch is, this individual had problems with the law and discipline. Trouble was constantly around the corner. Eventually, after a normal sexual identity of hetereosexual relationships, this individual delved for a brief time into a homosexual relationship. After ending the relationship, this individual never returned to such practices again, and in fact abhorred them. This individual never went through ‘therapy’ for such, nor was he pressured for nobody knew about it.

What label does this individual carry, who no longer has any such desires nor feels any identity with homosexuality? Did he make a switch from heterosexual identity to homosexual identity and then back again? Did he only briefly ‘experiment’ but was neverly truly ‘homosexual?’ Is he ‘bisexual’ but represses one sexual identity?

Consider that love for your neighbor will lead you upstream at times. Love, after all, accepts you for who you are, but will never leave you that way. Who loves who leaves a person in all their previous states of sin and sorrow? Who does not seek to build up their friends? If you seek to build up, then you must seek to change, indirectly or directly. If you do not seek to build up, then perhaps you are not such a good friend; this applies to all of us, including me.

Moonglovv #fundie #homophobia christianforums.com

Leaving the deathstyle

I'm Just a "noob" but I know I can do this. I've been reading some otf the arugments against leaving the homosexual lifestyle (which I'll call the Homosexual Deathstyle from now on) and I just can't believe so many people are deceived by the Devil. Especially those who can call themselves Christians.

All the studies and statistics in the world can be used to prove anything one way or another but what really matters is what happens in a persons actual life.

I would like to start this thread so that people will know that leaving the Deathstyle is possible. I left it behind when I found Christ. I want to encourage other people on this board to contribute to the thread thier own personal testimony of leaving Homosexuality. I KNOW there are many on this board who have.

If you're some kind of skeptic I'm not really interested in hearing from you. However if you are a Homosexual who is struggling and wants to talk about things and you aren't afraid to listen to God's honest truth then you are more than welcome.

God Bless,
Helen

Trinidad and Tobago #fundie #homophobia christiandiscussionforums.org

What you are asking me to believe is simply insane. Here are the facts of this case:

Foley was a homosexual.
Foley was a pedophile.
Foley was being covered up by the democrats.
Foley was ousted by a REPUBLICAN(Dennis Hasert)

How many homosexuals are republicans? How about pedophiles? How many republican scandals are being covered up by democrats? How many republicans are betrayed by other republicans? The answer to all these questions are Zero. Foley was a democrat operative, no doubt sent in to provide a "Black eye" to the party he was misrepresenting. However the facts are on the table, he was a Democrat. Why do you think the democrats are under attack now? Because he supported a pedophile just because he was in their party.

The democrats have had a long time in putting operatives under "false" aliases and then later pretend to be a victim. Richard Nixon and Watergate. And let us not forget Clinton and Gerry Studds.

yankee15 #homophobia youthink.com

If you want to cause a child to be subjected to constant bullying because he is being raised by homosexuals, then you are a cold hearted bitch.
Period.
End of sentence.
You should be ashamed of yourself, you heartless wench.
The social stigma of homosexuality will survive long after I'm gone, you ignorant twit. Because homosexuality is AB-F*CKING-NORMAL!!! 5% is hardly enough to make it be considered anything but AB-F*CKING-NORMAL.
Why don't any of you liberal dipsh*ts think of the children first, instead of the gays who just want to further their abnormal agenda?

Jeff Chandler #homophobia freerepublic.com

['If children are brought up thinking homosexual perversions are perfectly normal and welcome activities, doesn't this expose them to the danger of being susceptible to advances by homosexual predators?']

Exactly! Why do you think the fags want homosexuality "normalized" in society? THEY WANT ACCESS TO THE CHILDREN.

Jim Robinson #homophobia freerepublic.com

Sounds like the Democrats want to get serious about protecting youngsters from homosexual predators. Hoorah! It's a little late but could be a good. idea!

Maybe we should start by removing homosexuals from all positions where they would have access to young people. Removing them from congress would be a good start, but we need to follow through by removing them from organizations such as the Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, military, churches, universities and schools.

And from our state governments. For example, I think about one third of our local California reps would be gone if this trend catches on. If we want to protect young people from homosexual predators, I think it would be a good idea to keep them from dominating our legislative bodies.

By the way, they should also stop forcing the "normalization" of perverted homosexual lifestyles on our children and our society in general. If children are brought up thinking homosexual perversions are perfectly normal and welcome activities, doesn't this expose them to the danger of being susceptible to advances by homosexual predators? How about teaching them to suspect and avoid the advances of over friendly teachers, ministers, counselors, congressmen and other homos in positions of trust? Makes sense to me.

Yup. Run 'em out of congress on a rail! Go Democrats!! Good start!!

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