scientists would know about it

Sassy #fundie religionethics.co.uk

If anything this thread is the perfect example of why man has not progressed. They can't get past the arguments amongst themselves long enough to examine the truth.

They attach themselves to any belief which will support their chosen belief.
Whilst truth seekers only adopt beliefs which are proven to themselves.

Not one of you are showing the intelligence you were born with. God exists and he is still the only evidence which has not been disproved. Scientist make claims and then make new claims. But never make solid claims.
Man is aware of his own mortality and animals are not. A CLEAR distinction as to why we are not animals.

But hey you are quite good at making yourself out to be buffoons and who knows maybe the animals are laughing at you in their own way. Superior in all ways but still trying to pretend you are an animal. Would animals be daft enough?
Truth is they wouldn't blooming care because they are animals they have no understanding of the argument.

NicholasMarks #fundie religionethics.co.uk

If our scientists had been around a few million years longer and had discovered why evil abounds and cured us of it, giving all those who would follow their laws everlasting life...things might now be very much different and we would have a little better understanding of what universal wonders surround us...as it is we must rely on an authority that already has all this knowledge.

If I wanted to move a planet I would now know that electrical/gravitational forces could be adopted though I wouldn't have a clue where to start...well...that's not entirely true...the evidence suggests that by interfering with the magnetic field that surrounds the planet we could submerge it into a gravity free zone...and every report of every ufo substantiates this claim.

JÖRG B. #racist pi-news.net

As a nature scientist with profound interest in paleontology and evolutionary biology I see the immigration with great worries, even if it is well-founded. We do know from the history of the earth and that of humans, how these invasions impact us.

Let's start first with some biology: there is a law in biology that says that a species adapted to its ecological niche can't be erased by a new existing species, because it would also have to adapt itself to that niche. This can't happen, because the niche is already occupied. From this view nobody could fight against our niche.

Aggressive Immigration

There is also an exception to this rule and that's immigration. If a species (or fauna) lives in ecological balance and if strangers come from outside or get introduced, the local life can't resist against it. The new enemies don't get viewed as such, the local fauna goes extinct and new ones take over their niches. In the history of the earth this has happened a lot, normally by continental drifts and the lowering of the sea level and is the reason why there aren't any marsupials in South America with the exception of the possum. The specific South American fauna had no chance against the robbers that aggressively came from North America when North America and South America drifted together.

Doesn't it sound familiar if I changed some words?

There is also another biological aspect of the affair, where I am by the human animal; A fact, that everyone wants to hide and that has to do with how big the hormonely guided instincts are in the behavior of the Homo Sapiens. Our species isn't that old, with the civilisation being younger and that what we call civilized behavior being 250 years old. The definition of >>Decadence<< is something I don't want to tackle, because it leads to quarrel. Much more important is the question, on what our entire existence from 600 million years - where 250 years of European civilisation doesn't matter anymore - is founded. It is exclusively the reproduction. Meaning the production of the next generation by preserving the species. This is stuck deeply in our genes and can be whitewashed by education, but can never be erased.

The instincts of station bludgeressses

The mechanisms of reproduction are well-known since the dawn of time: A female exemplar that is ready to mate searches for the best possible male exemplar of the same species and produces with them the best possible offspring. This is in no way an aware, but a from instinct guided behavior. The from the female exemplar selected male exemplar has to make sure, that the mother and the child and the genes that have been given to the child maximal protection. Women are already unsuited to be biological protectors, because they can be made fertile by invaders and therefore can give over its genes just as much as the local inhabitants. The invader, that has shown itself to be stronger, is even more attractive than the loser. The female is automatically less willing to protect the >>homeland<< than the man (which explains the failure of female >>Defence<<).

And now we come to human history and it's not a logical, but a purely instinctively executed genocide of men. The last case in Europe wasn't to long ago and took place in Bosnia. Despite civilisation finding this behavior scary it is completely natural. Why women are never affected by genocide can be seen in the previous paragraph: Women will - again completely unaware - decide for the remaining conquerors and murderers, because there isn't anything else left, because they have to instinctively give their genes.

This is why I am worried; and not because of any diffused feelings, but because I see clearly what is coming to us. It doesn't matter, from where the collection of viril men comes, that come in our country in the hundreds of thousands. I only know that I, as a white man, am endangered and that I have to protect myself against them. Because I can't resist the invasion anymore with a spear, bow and arrows, crossbow or shotgun I must at least vote for the only party that has the confidence to say something against it. The other things of the AfD, such as the Euro, the GEZ and the fight against gender-idiocy are things I support too, but they are to me only secondary in the fight to survive.

But: the station bludgeresses do behave instinctively. This is how we can hold it tight.

Kashif N. Chaudhry #fundie huffingtonpost.com

Impressed by the Koran's call for scientific reasoning, I too adopted science as a career path. And the more I studied science, the more I grew in faith. Everything made sense.

Take the motions of the planetary bodies for an example. The Koran states:

"And He it is Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon, each gliding along in its orbit" (21:33).
This knowledge of planetary motion was unknown in contemporary seventh century Arabia. Although some Greek astronomers -- who had no contact with Prophet Muhammad -- had already suggested the earth were not stationary, the Koran's claim that all celestial bodies including the Sun were moving in orbits was an unprecedented one. This fact was not known for many centuries later. How did the Author of the Koran have this information? And who was this Author?

Take another example -- the Big Bang theory. This theory postulates that matter rapidly expanded from a state of extremely high density and temperature, violently exploding to mark the origin of the universe 13.8 billion years ago. As I studied the theory, words of the Koran came to my mind.

"Do not the unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were a closed-up mass, then We clove them asunder?" (21:30).
Reading this verse creates a picture of the Big Bang in one's mind. How did the Author of the Koran have this information 1400 years before the currently accepted theory on the origins of the Cosmos? Was He in fact the Creator He claimed to be? And what is even more interesting is the fact that this verse was addressed to non-believers, as if to convey a prophecy on who would tread upon this great scientific discovery of our cosmic birth.

As my interest in cosmology and basic astrophysics grew, I was even more bewildered. The universe, for far too long, was thought to be static, until scientists in the late 20th century stumbled on a landmark discovery. They discovered that the universe was in fact expanding at an accelerating pace. Renowned physicist Stephen Hawking highlights the significance of this finding in these words:

"The expansion of the universe was one of the most important intellectual discoveries of the 20th century, or of any century. It transformed the debate about whether the universe had a beginning. If galaxies are moving apart now, they must have been closer together in the past. If their speed had been constant, they would all have been on top of one another about 15 billion years ago. Was this the beginning of the universe? Many scientists were still unhappy with the universe having a beginning because it seemed to imply that physics broke down. One would have to invoke an outside agency, which for convenience, one can call God, to determine how the universe began."
This reminded me again of the words of The Koran.

"And the heaven We built with Our own powers, and indeed We go on expanding it." (51:48).
How did the Author of the Koran know the Universe was expanding? It cannot be denied that this Author was aware of the deepest secrets of the Universe - secrets that we are only learning about now.

The Koran mentions a lot more scientific truths that were not known to man over a millennium ago. For instance, we know today that life is dependent on water. This is exactly why we look for water as a surrogate marker for life on other planets. The Koran mentioned this fact:

"It is He Who has created man from water" (25:54)
And in verse 24:45, the Author of the Koran claims all life is dependent on water.

But then I was reminded of this verse in the Koran:

"Indeed, We created man from cohesive clay" (37:12).
How could life originate from water and clay at the same time? Which of the two was it? Was the Koran contradictory? Once again, Science provided the answer to my queries. In a paper published in the prestigious Nature magazine early last year, researchers at Cornell University proved that clay might have been the birthplace of life on earth. The researchers demonstrated the importance of confinement for biomolecules and biochemical reactions in early life evolution and suggested that early life evolution may have occurred in a clay hydrogel environment. I was left awestruck again. Life, as we understand it today, is indeed dependent on water and most likely originated in clay.

The more I pursued science with a religious zeal, the more I grew in faith. There was no option, but to agree that the Author of the Koran is - as He claims - the Creator of the Universe and the life it holds. For if not, how did He know about secrets of the universe and of our origin? Secrets that we have just begun to understand over a millennium after the revelation of the Koran.

Equally significant to me was the fact that not a single scientific principle the Author proclaimed had been proven wrong.

WorldGoneCrazy #fundie disqus.com

"1) Why do you think atheists all believed the universe had no beginning"

Because it made for a good atheist myth and, if it had been true, it would have been a defeater for the 2nd premise of the Kalam Cosmological Argument. No way out there for the atheist who desires to deny God's existence.

"So what? Its still finding things amazing after the fact."

Aaah, but it is the Explanation for "amazing" that counts. :-) Not to mention that it is delusional to think that one could survive so many firing squads and they NOT be rigged.

"3) Theists have no say in science."

Then why did the Scientific Revolution kick off with theological scientists - who put prayers to God in their technical papers? And, of course, there are plenty of theist-scientists now. I happen to be one of them.

"Great is our Lord and great His virtue and of His wisdom there is no number: praise Him, ye heavens, Praise Him, ye sun, moon, and planets, use every sense for perceiving, every tongue for declaring your Creator. Praise Him, ye celestial harmonies, praise Him, ye judges of the harmonies uncovered: and thou my soul, praise the Lord they Creator, as long as I shall be: for out of Him and through Him and in Him are all things; for both whose whereof we are utterly ignorant and those which we know are the least part of them; because there is still more beyond. To Him be praise, honour, and glory, world without end. Amen." -- Johannes Kepler, "Harmonies of the World Book Five." This was at the end of this book - there are prayers interspersed throughout.

" You do realize the Cambrian was the first time hard bodied animals were available for fossilization?"

Take it up with secular scientists who are resorting to miracles and hand-waving to explain it.

"It a pity Nobel laureate Robert Laughlin was a physicist so had no idea about the field."

Ad hominem. One cannot do away with his argument based on his degree.

"Evidence should be everywhere. Where is it?"

Everywhere. :-)

"Arno Penzias would be a clown"

Ad hominem. You are the emotional atheist, no?

"Without men observing reality there would be no proof for the Big Bang."

Yes, indeed, and thank God for the Big Bang - literally! :-)

TheNewDoge #conspiracy deviantart.com

The all American hero.

Have I got a story for you. Here is the story of an all American hero who saved the nation of America in its darkest hour…. Adolf Hitler. Let me explain. In about 1943 German biologists who were supposed to help the war effort were getting a bit uneasy. At this point Germany has three major super powers against it (Soviet Union, England, USA), Italy just had the shit kicked out of it in Africa and Il Duce’s not looking so good and they were rightfully getting a little worried. However these guys still had numerous caches of poison gas left over from WW1 that was just going to waste. Not only that but they were toying around of the possibility of also infusing bombs with various diseases such as anthrax, and typhoid. Their reasoning was that they could handle dealing with two superpowers but three was just too much. They wanted to use bioweapons and hazards to terrorize the American population and force America to pull out of the war entirely. One scientist put it, "America must be attacked simultaneously with various human and animal epidemic pathogens as well as plant pests."

So why wasn’t the U.S subjected to random gas attacks and bombs of disease? It was due in part to one hero. No, not some American commando sneaking into Germany and blowing shit up. It was this guy



Coincidentally he’s also a talented artist, writer, and politician.

Yep, in a stunning act of compassion Hitler refused to harm America. Let me explain. As most know Hitler himself was nearly blinded in WW1 by a poison gas attack. The attack that drove him to abhor war and chemical weapons. You see there were several times that Hitler could have at any given time in the war have used chemical and biological weapons against the allies, indeed it might have even won Germany the war. England even thought that Germany would do so and in 1940 started to give all citizens personal gas masks in case those evil Germans started raining the gas down. However in all these cases Hitler was the bigger man and refused to use these tactics.

His reasoning was that he had experienced the pain of the poison gas himself. He knew the horrors and pain it caused. From this he never wanted another human being, even if they were his enemies, to suffer the same fate and pain as he did. Back to our story at hand, when these scientists brought to the Fuhrer their plans he was Fuhrious (bad pun). You see earlier in the war the boss man issued an order that specifically stated “no bio weapons are to be used.” When these scientists ignored this order and invented these bombs anyway they thought they would still be put to use. Nuh-uh. He didn’t budge. More to the point these bombs were already made. It was not a if they could use them it was a when. Even when he basically had these WMDs ready he still hadn’t changed his mind and refused to go along with the project and had it dismantled.

He had the power to basically wipe a superpower of the Earth and refused. Compare this to one Winston Churchill. Churchill who also was planning on using bombs with anthrax except he was the one who came up with the idea himself and would have had no problem using it on Germans and innocent civilians. Churchill had several tests done on islands with these bombs and even considered using them on German cities. The reason he didn’t was that it was already 1944 and the Nazis were basically beaten. The Soviets were in Poland and American and English forces were marching through France. He felt there would be no need for it. It would be interesting to see what would have happened if Churchill got one of those bombs earlier in the war. Say 1940? The same thing could have been said by FDR who wanted to even drop a nuclear bomb on Berlin but he kicked the bucket before he got the chance.

James L. Melton #fundie av1611.org

Over the years, being hard-pressed for real evidence, the evolutionists have managed to conjure up a number of "proofs" that Darwin's theory is a scientific fact. This so-called "evidence" is worshipped by all evolutionists, while all contrary evidence is ignored. Let's consider some of their evidence.

VESTIGIAL ORGANS are believed by evolutionists to be parts of the human body that are no longer needed. Therefore these useless body parts must be "left-overs" from our ancestors, the monkeys. These "useless" body parts include the appendix, the coccyx (tail bone), the pineal gland, the plica semilunaris, the tonsils, and the ear lobes.

Naturally, the facts are ignored. Many medical doctors agree that all of these organs have important functions in the human body, and aren't "vestigial organs" in any sense. The appendix contains a rich blood supply which serves as some defense against cancer. The tail bone isn't where your monkey tail used to be, as Darwinians believe, but it instead provides support for the muscles which control elimination. The pineal gland contains important hormones which the body needs. The plica semilunaris helps to keep foreign particles out of the eye, and the tonsils help to keep foreign particles out of your child's throat. The tonsils also help to keep infection from spreading. Yes, even the ear lobe has a purpose, for it helps to keep our ears warm during cold weather.

Another "proof" for evolution is found in the field of BIOCHEMISTRY. This is where scientists mix genes and chromosomes in their effort to prove relation between man and animal.

Is there any conclusive evidence? No there isn't. Any learned scientist should be familiar with the rather embarrassing test conclusions of Dr. Nutall back in 1904. Nutall's tests concluded that baboons and hoofed animals are related to whales, that pigs are related to tigers, and that black people are related to monkeys! There isn't one ounce of real evidence anywhere in the entire field of biochemistry which proves that men and animals are kin--just theories and wishful thinking.

EMBRYOLOGY is another field of study. This is where unborn embryos are studied in order to detect the preformed shape of humans and animals. This is the field where we find Haeckel talking about "ONTOGENY RECAPITULATES PHYLOGENY" This is the belief that every individual passes through the many evolutionary stages while still in the mother's womb. That is, you body took on the shape of an amoeba, then a paramecium, then a jelly fish, then a fish, then a bunch of other creatures during the nine months prior to your birth. Of course, this theory ignores the fact that respiratory systems develop LATE in the human embryo. So how did early mammal life exist without breathing? They've also ignored the fact that the head of an unborn baby is larger than the body, which is NOT the case with fish.

Professor Waldo Sumway, of Stephens Institute of Technology, says that "There is never a time in the development of a mammal when it could have been mistaken for a fish or reptile."

Now we come to the wonderful world of TAXONOMY, where cartoon charts are used to artificially classify bones in order to "prove" evolution. This is where evolutionists develop a "disneyland" mentally and construct a chart which shows the earth to be about 4.5 billion years old. Then they proceed to divide this chart up into various time frames containing hundreds of millions of years each. As new discoveries are found, the scientists conveniently place them at selected places on the chart.

This would be a dandy little system, except for one minor problem: THEY'VE NEVER PROVEN THE ORIGINAL CHART! It's nothing more than blind guesswork. No one has ever proven that the earth is 4.5 billion years old. The chart is NOT scientific. In fact, many scientists believe that the earth isn't over 6,000 to 10,000 years old! Of course, all opposing views are ignored by evolutionary scientists, for they need a nice big time period in which to place their new findings. You've heard of people "buying time?" Well, evolutionists just DREAM IT UP.

Another "proof" for evolution is COMPARATIVE ANATOMY, the belief that similar bone structures prove animal kin through evolution. That is, if two different animals have similar bone structures, then they must have evolved from the same original ancestors. Of course, this is more

nonsense. Any scientist knows perfectly well that many such bone structures are produced by entirely DIFFERENT GENES, thus proving that they are in NO WAY RELATED! In fact, if similar bone structure proves anything, it proves that these animals were created by the same God!

The sixth argument used to support evolution is the so-called FOSSIL EVIDENCE. The evolutionist believes that the fossil record proves a progressive evolution of the species over millions of years, beginning with non-living matter. This non-living matter supposedly evolves into protozoans, and the protozoans evolve into metazoan invertebrates, which evolve into vertebrate fishes. The fishes evolve into amphibians, which evolve into reptiles, which evolve into birds. The birds then evolve into fur-bearing quadrupeds (animals with 4 legs), and these quadrupeds evolve into apes, and the apes evolve into man.

Now for those who actually believe such a fable, we have a question: WHERE ARE THE TRANSITIONAL FORMS? If all of those life forms survived by changing into higher life forms, then would someone please show us one living example of this today? Where can we observe a reptile who is slowly changing into a bird? How about a bird who is turning into a four-legged animal? This is one of the strongest arguments against evolution: NO TRANSITIONAL FORMS. Even Darwin realized this in his "Origin of the Species" when he said that "this is the most obvious of the many objections which may be argued against it." (Vol. 2, 6th Ed. p. 49)

Yes, it certainly is. The more the fossil record builds, the weaker the theory of evolution becomes, because the needed transitional forms are NOT BEING FOUND to link the species! They never will be found, because the species are NOT LINKED (I Cor. 15:38-39).

The evolutionist also runs into another problem when he considers WHERE and HOW many fossils are found. The devout evolutionist subscribes to the belief that things are pretty much the same as always. He believes that there have been no major world catastrophes to wipe out animal life, but that various species have become extinct as a result of failing to adapt to their environment. The problem with this is the stubborn fact that there are many burial sites around the world which are literally paved with fossils! Often times such fossils are found in a totally different climate from that in which they once lived. Mammoths have been found frozen, preserved perfectly in ice in Northern Siberia and Alaska. Many of these are very large and strong animals, which evolutionists claim should have survived and overcame any obstacles. BUT THEY DIDN'T! What happened? Why did they die out? How can evolution explain this? Evolution CAN'T explain it. Evolution IGNORES it. It is explained in Genesis chapters 6, 7 and 8--the Flood.

Lainey #fundie answers.yahoo.com

Q: How many fields of science have to be flawed for creationism to be valid?


"Actually none. All that would have to be done away with are methods that have proven flawed, such as you mentioned, radiometric dating. However, that doesn't throw out all work done in Nuclear Physics or concepts that work. Carbon dating also has to be thrown out because testing on material from Mt. St Helens erruption proved that new material can date old even when we know it's real age. However, to accept evolution you have to ignor many chemistry and biology scientists who keep asking for more time in order to make evolution probable. You also have to throw out everything we know about the linguistic evolution. Languages have historically become simpler since the beginning of recorded history. The more complex languages have died, and the languages still surviving are morphing to simpler and simpler versions. Language is in essence de-evolving over time. Are we to think the neanderthals spoke a highly complex tonal language which all of our many languages have evolved from? Evolution only happens in the real world as complex to simple. It doesn't happen the other way around. Therefore we could not have evolved from apes. Our ancestors had the most complex language."

Creation Tips #fundie users.bigpond.com

Babylonian Ark fails test
The ancient Babylonians had a flood story too, and it may have been a corrupted version of the biblical account. The ark in the Babylonian story was shaped like a cube, which would had made it unseaworthy.

This shows the difference between truth and badly recorded legends. The Bible's Ark was able to carry all the animals God sent to Noah, it was wonderfully seaworthy, it landed on a mountain that is still identifiable today, and the whole story is credible scientifically.

Because of this, there are many thousands of scientists who believe the Bible's account of the Ark and the worldwide Flood, but none (as far as we know) who seriously defends the Babylonian story as scientifically trustworthy.

Curiosity Killed The Cat. #fundie answers.yahoo.com

Open QuestionShow me another »
Believers and non-believers in God- why debate over Him so much, when the evidence of His existence is clear?
Do we constantly debate that electricity doesn't exist, or air doesn't exist, or thoughts don't exist, or time doesn't exist just because we cannot see them? Or that the heat of the sun isn't true- just because our limited minds cannot comprehend such intense heat, or that the speed of light (186,000 miles per second) would take 100,000 years to cross just our galaxy, the milky way, that our minds cannot truly comprehend such speed- do we reject such truths, just because we cannot fully comprehend them? Illustration- scientists do not fully understand all the genes that are within the living cells of the body, nor do they fully comprehend the intricate functioning of the human brain- yet they do not deny that the body and brain exist.
Should we really expect to know everything about God who is so great that he brought about the existence of the universe, with all its intricate design and stupendous size?
Great to get your thoughts on this :-)

Jared Taylor #dunning-kruger #racist amren.com

When I first saw this book, I assumed it was rubbish. The editor went through three popular textbooks on intelligence, found the most frequently cited experts, and asked each of them to write a chapter. I thought it would be the usual: Intelligence is a myth, IQ tests are racist, growing up in a fancy house makes you smart.

I was wrong. Most of the 20 authors are sure-enough scientists, and they have a clear message: Our rulers are ignoramuses. The blowhards at CNN and the New York Times are wrong.

They take for granted stuff that can get you fired if you say it openly. Namely, you are basically born smart or stupid. Nobody knows how to raise IQ, but we sure know how to measure it. Men’s and women’s brains work differently. People of different races have different average IQs, and that’s probably genetic, too.

Linda Gottfredson of the University of Delaware includes an illustration that’s worth the price of the book. I used it in a previous video, so I’ll note just one thing: A white person is 30 times more likely than a black person to have an IQ of 125 or higher. Since there are five times as many whites as blacks in the country, there are 150 times more really high-IQ whites than blacks in this country. And 25 times as many blacks with IQs 75 or lower.

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Explains a lot, doesn’t it? But the next time you hear the media fret about not enough “people of color” in science or management or whatever, do you think there will be even one word about IQ? No chance.

Samuel James #fundie patheos.com

[From a "article" about how Christians should be debating with their Atheist friends]

3) Only supernatural theism provides a rational justification of scientific work.

The wording of this point is very important. If we left out the word “rational,” then the statement would actually be false and quite easy to shoot down. You don’t need supernatural theism to be curious, or to want to explore the natural world. But you do need supernatural theism to have a rational justification of science. What does the word rational mean there? It means that scientific inquiry done on the assumption that there is no higher intelligence than evolved human intelligence is making a value judgment that it has no right to make.

Why is knowledge better than ignorance? The atheist would respond that ignorance has less survival value than truth; after all, if you believe wrong things or do not know enough about your environment, you’re less likely to survive and flourish. But this explanation only applies to a very small amount of scientific knowledge. There is little survival value in knowing, for example, the complicated workings of time–space theory, or the genus of certain insects, or the distance of Jupiter from Mars. All of these facts are pursued by scientists as being intrinsically valuable, yet they offer very little information that can help guarantee a species’ continued existence on the planet.

The real explanation is that scientists pursue these facts because there is intrinsic value in knowing what is true about the world, regardless of how much help it gives us. Human beings believe that knowing is better than ignorance because they believe that truth is better than falsity, and light is better than darkness. But where does such a conclusion come from? It does not come from scientific principles. Science itself offers no self-evident account for why it should be pursued. You cannot study science hard enough to understand why you should study science at all. To study science presupposes a valuing of truth that must be experienced outside of scientific study. It is only rational to pursue scientific knowledge that doesn’t offer immediate survival value if there is some external, transcendent value in knowing truth. Theism offers an explanation for why knowing truth is valuable. Scientific atheism does not.

4) Only supernatural theism gives us assurance that real scientific knowledge is possible.

Philosopher Alvin Plantinga is famous for articulating what he calls the “evolutionary argument against naturalism.” The argument is
Alvin Plantinga

Alvin Plantinga

complicated in detail but simple in premise. Plantinga begins by putting two facts alongside each other that nearly all atheists agree on. First, the theory of evolution is true, and humans have descended from lower life forms over time. Secondly, humans are rational beings in a higher degree and superior way to lesser evolved creatures. Plantinga then points our attention towards a tension between these two facts. If human beings are a more evolved species of primate, then our cognitive faculties (ie, the parts of our body and mind that allow us to be rational creatures) have evolved out of lesser cognitive faculties. But, Plantinga says, if God does not exist, then the only factors that affected human evolution are time and chance. Based on time and chance alone, why should we be confident that our rational minds–which are merely the sum of lesser evolved minds plus time and chance–are actually rational at all? What basis do we have to believe our own conclusions? How do we know we are actually capable of knowing truth more than a primate? If the only players in our existence are lesser creatures, time, and chance, how do we know we are even highly evolved at all?

This astute observation was echoed by Thomas Nagel in his recent book Mind and Cosmos. Nagel, an agnostic philosopher from New York University, argues that human comprehension of the universe cannot be explained merely by atheistic evolutionary processes. It makes no sense to assume that humans can really make sense of their world on a conceptual level if human consciousness arose out of the very world it responds to. Nagel agrees with Plantinga that atheistic naturalism cannot explain why human beings can be rational creatures and do rational things that should be trusted.

Scientific knowledge is only possible if things unprovable by science are actually true. If Carl Sagan is correct and the material universe is all there was, is, and ever will be, then science itself is nothing more than a shot in the dark. If, however, human beings are the products of an infinitely greater Mind, then we have justification for believing that true and false are realities and not merely the shadow puppets of our ancestors.

JohnR7 #fundie christianforums.com

[Certainly you know that only a very few fringe scientists reserve acceptance of the Theory of Evolution. As theories go, it's very well accepted.]

The Bible is also very well accepted. Up to 97% of the people accept the Bible. More than what accepts the theory of evolution.

The difference is if you accept man's theory of evolution, then you have low standards. If you accept the Bible, you have high standards because God sets a much higher standard for us then we would set for ourselves. Evolution is false simply because it is a man made theory.

Clint Loveness #fundie pepperdineevolution.weebly.com

In response, someone might say that Moses did not understand science, but Jesus affirmed Moses in Luke 16:31 ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be persuaded even if someone rises from the dead.’ Jesus also said in Mark 10:6 "But from the beginning of creation, God made them male and female.” If there were a billion years before Adam and Eve then it was not ‘the beginning’. If there were a billions years before Adam and Eve, than you have death before sin, which goes against Scripture!


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Why didn’t the Pepperdine professors teach the flaws of evolution? For example, they should teach the different types of evolution. One type is called “microevolution”, which refers to changes variations within species (different types of dogs, etc.); I have no problem whatsoever with this type of minor evolution, as it clearly occurs within the plant and animal kingdoms. However, there are some major scientific and moral flaws within “macroevolution”, which is defined as one species morphing, or evolving, into a completely different and separate species. Clearly, these two very opposite types of evolution cannot be called similar to each other, yet evolutionists have hijacked the word “science” by blending microevolution and macroevolution together
Sir Arthur Keith, who wrote the foreword to the Origin of Species (100th edition), admitted that “Evolution is unproved and unprovable, we believe it only because the only alternative is special creation, and that is unthinkable.” When the well-known apologist Ray Comfort recently interviewed dozens of evolution professors, he asked them for just one example of repeatable, observable evidence of macroevolution and they COULD NOT give even one example. Thus, macroevolution does not follow the scientific method, which means that macroevolution is not real science. In fact, since these professors need billions of years they actually need faith to believe this worldview. I recommend that you watch his movie called “Evolution vs. God” on this link.

I asked Dr. Honeycutt for one clear example of macroevolution and he used whale evolution, but Dr. Honeycutt was wrong, because the world’s leading authority on whale evolution admitted that it was a hoax on this link. Even Darwin himself was concerned that the lack of transitional fossils disproved his own theory. He hoped that in the years to come, there would be more fossils discovered that would prove the theory as he stated it. It has been over 150 years since he wrote that book, and countless more fossils have been found as people search for the missing links, but the supposedly innumerable transitional forms have not been found. Why didn’t the Pepperdine professors teach about how many missing links have been a hoax? In fact, every time a supposed link is discovered, an evolutionist would criticize that example as a hoax, meaning that we still do not have one example. The Cambrian explosion disproves transitional forms because the very base layer of the fossil record shows advanced life forms. This fact is fatal to the evolutionary theory’s descent with gradual modification through natural selection. The fossils record is evidence for a worldwide flood or for transitional forms evolving, but it cannot be both. If Noah’s flood were true you would expect to find millions of dead things buried in rock layers laid down by water all over the earth, and what do we actually see in the fossil record? Millions of dead things buried in rock layers laid down by water all over the earth!

Evolutionary dating methods are not accurate. For example, did you know that living snails have been radiometrically carbon dated to be 2,300 years old? Or that the radioisotope dating showed Mount St. Helen's lava to be 340,000 years old, when in reality it was only 10 years old? Carbon-14 atoms should not exist in any carbon older than 250,000 years old, but we find carbon-14 in dinosaur fossils, diamonds, and coal - which is good evidence that the earth is only thousands of years old, not millions of years old. Scientists have found red blood cells in many different dinosaur bones that could not possibly have survived millions of years. Here are two links for the top scientific reasons why the earth is not millions of years old: from the Institute for Creation Research and Answers In Genesis the two leading creationist organizations.

Essentially, the bottom line is this: macroevolution is not only unscientific, it directly goes against the Bible. If I was a current Pepperdine student and I had these theistic evolution professors teaching me that Adam, Eve, Abel, Cain, Noah and the worldwide flood were not real, that evolution was true, and that Genesis was not to be taken literally, I probably would have doubted whether or not the rest of the Bible was true and I would have lost my faith! I’m worried that many more students like my brother will lose their faith in Christ because we are putting another religion called evolution ahead of the Bible. In the past, the Hebrews worshiped two gods and one was named Baal. Now, I believe that we are guilty of worshipping two gods by mixing evolution and theology. If you look up “religion” in the dictionary, it says that a religion is “a worldview that explains the cause of origins, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially the creation of humans.” I would propose that evolution is not science but a form of another religion that you need FAITH to believe in. God will also judge a teacher more strictly, which makes this issue of an important issue because if you compromise the book of Genesis, than this will encourage many young people to compromise and to reject the rest of the Bible.

Sarah Terzo #fundie liveactionnews.org

Woman regrets abortion after seeing her 12-week-old baby: ‘They deceived me’

Previously, I’ve written about the way abortion facility workers sometimes lie to women about the development of their babies and about abortion’s risks. In the following story, a woman discovered the abortion workers lied about her baby in the worst way possible.

The now off-line website Abortion Concern had the story of a young woman named Lynda who had an abortion. She had been pressured by her boyfriend, whom she described as being “ecstatic” when the abortion was over.

Doubts and feelings of grief began to surface on the drive home. She became even more upset when her boyfriend, who had promised to stay with her after the abortion, left her alone.

As we drove away, I felt like I had forgotten something, or left something behind. We returned home, and [my boyfriend’s] promise to me to be there with me, was totally false. He left me there alone. At first, I was relieved that it was over, and then I was hit by the most overwhelming, tremendous grief I had ever experienced.

But the worst was yet to come. Lynda says:

I was also experiencing very bad cramps. Four days after the abortion, I got up to [go to the bathroom] and felt that something was not right inside. When I wiped, I glanced down at the wad of toilet paper in my hand, and saw my 12-week old fetus. Its head was smashed, and it’s eyes were on either side of its head. Its body was attached to the head, and only the right arm and hand remained. I was shocked and horrified by what I saw.

The abortion clinic had botched the abortion and only gotten part of the baby out. At 12 weeks, Lynda’s child had been fully formed. He or she had a beating heart and brain waves. Already capable of responding to touch, he would have pulled away from the abortion instruments. At the time of his death, the baby was already right or left handed. He had lungs and would have “breathed” amniotic fluid, strengthening his lungs to breathe air after he was born. Not only did he have hands and fingers, but also fingerprints. These fingerprints marked him as a unique individual who had never existed before in all of history and will never exist again.

Lynda’s boyfriend also saw the baby:

My boyfriend saw it too. He was standing in the bathroom shaving. He heard me say “oh my gosh,” when he turned to see what I was holding. He ran out of the bathroom, and kept repeating, “I didn’t see it, I didn’t see that, I didn’t see the dead baby.”

I just sat there, with tears streaming down my cheeks, as I held my baby’s hand on my pinky, trying to find words to say, of why I failed this innocent child. I had tuned my boyfriend out, to where he was just some noise in the background.

Lynda called the abortion clinic and told them what happened. But—

They criticized me, because, “a baby does not form until the last trimester.” They deceived me when they initially told me that. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out what a miniature hand, with four fingers and a thumb looked like, or to know what it was I held in my hand that day.

Lynda sank into what she called a “deep depression.” She sought post-abortion counseling through a local church but says it only made her feel more guilty. Unsurprisingly, her relationship with her boyfriend fell apart:

At night, I’d lay awake in bed, sobbing quietly, so not to wake my boyfriend, who had turned from demanding, to insensitive and unsupportive, and couldn’t deal with me, given I simply just couldn’t “get over it.” My relationship with him ended.

Lynda finished her testimony by saying, “I believe the abortion doctors deceive a person.” She claimed that she would not have had an abortion if she had been told the truth.

While seeing one’s mutilated baby after a surgical abortion is very rare, sadly, being lied to by the abortion facility is not. Read more testimonies from women who were misled and regretted having their abortions.

punkrocker71 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

while the earth was young it was covered with water. the flood happened while the earth was young. my source was the discovery channel. and everybody knows thats what scientists think anyways. thats why there are so many expaditions to go look for lost ships of the flood and stuff like that."

"yes i do admit that the colarado river does do erosion to the canyon but i and many others believe that the river couldnt have eroded that much i 6,000 years. and the canyon is very high. the river was not that deep at one time to have washed out the top and bottom of the canyon. it would have only eroded the bottom."

"whatever. continental drift. its hard to believe thats how all these fossils of things that were way at the bottom of the ocean have been found up there. but believe what you want. i dont care.

Alexander Light #conspiracy humansarefree.com

Where On Earth Are NASA's Rovers Sending Pictures From? Devon Island, Canada

There is an increasing number of people who believe that NASA's rovers never left the Earth in the first place, and the pictures they are allegedly sending back from Mars are taken in remote areas of our planet.

But if NASA's rovers are not on Mars, then where exactly are they?

First of all, evidence suggests that the pictures that we see on NASA's website are not even taken by the Curiosity and Opportunity rovers.

It is very possible that by now, both rovers are stored in a hangar, somewhere at NASA's JPL headquarters, and have been replaced by their smaller and more practical baby brothers.

Sure, if needed, they can always be taken out for a spin, but other than that, the smaller rovers are more convenient to work with.

One of the known locations where NASA is playing around with these small rovers is Devon Island, Canada.

(It's worth noting that Devon Island is "the largest uninhabited island on Earth," which seems like a pretty good location for a fake Martian photo shoot).

Just take a look at these pictures:

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NASA base in Devon Island, Canada — even without the color filters,
it's strikingly similar to Mars, isn't it?

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NASA's "baby rovers" taking pictures in Devon Island, Canada

Sure, one could think NASA just needed a place where they can simulate the conditions on Mars, but what's the point of simulating those conditions with miniature rovers, that look and work almost nothing like their bigger brothers?

Their shape, size and weight are different and the wheels are worlds apart. It's really impossible to make even remotely accurate tests.

They also don't have the on board laboratories, so what's there to simulate? Except for taking pictures, the "baby rovers" look useless.

Check out the following video for further evidence (please notice the identical terrain as that from NASA's pictures):

The cameras mounted on the "baby rovers" have color filters already applied, but the final images — those that we get to download from NASA's website — are color-corrected even further, until they get that fake, reddish color that is so familiar to us (NASA actually admits the color tempering of their pictures, as you will see later on).

We have been tricked into believing the myth that Mars is the "red planet" (even though all amateur telescope pictures show otherwise), so NASA is now only perpetuating the lie.

The following is an amateur telescope picture of Mars taken on 2014, 03, 21 (source):

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As you can clearly see for yourself, Mars is not red. It's light and dark brown, similar to what Earth would look like without all the water and vegetation.

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Now I'm not saying that we could breath on Mars like we do on Earth, but where are the blue skies in NASA's pictures? That reddish sorry excuse of an atmosphere is obviously fake.

NASA admitted on numerous occasions to alter the colors of their pictures before posting them online, so that they look more like what we would see, if we were on Mars.

Here's something straight from NASA's website:

"Getting the colors right is not an exact science," says Bell. "Giving an approximate view of what we'd see if we were there involves an artistic, visionary element as well – after all, no one's ever been there before." However, great pains are taken to be as accurate as possible, short of going there ourselves.

To give people a sense of being on Mars, scientists combine views through telescopes, data from past Mars missions, and new information from the current mission to create a color-balanced, uniform scene. Color-corrected mosaics simulate the view a person would see if all the images in the mosaic were taken on the same day, at the same moment.

In addition, the rovers can take three pictures in a row of the same surface area on Mars using three different primary color filters – red, green, and blue – to make one color image. "It works a little like an inkjet color printer, which combines primary colors to create various shades on paper," explains Eric De Jong, Lead for the Solar System Visualization Team at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory. "Then, we can tweak the color just like you can adjust the color balance on a TV screen at home." — NASA, JPL

So, there you go. NASA is clearly admitting to "color correcting," "color balancing," and even "tweaking the colors" of their images, so you can see whatever they want you to see.

Does it make any sense to you? Why not simply taking pictures of the environment AS IT IS? Why changing its color into something else?

It's the same old "the government knows what's best for you" rhetoric, and the people have been tricked into blindly believing and obeying it without question.

I mean, you haven't heard anyone complaining about the "color tweaking," have you?

But the "color tweaking" is not all they are doing to the original pictures. NASA has been caught, more than once, faking entire environments of — allegedly — Mars.

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NASA is a smokescreen for an advanced secret space program

As I have presented in a previous article that you can read here, NASA is just a smokescreen for the real space program, which falls in the military domain, especially the US Navy. These guys are flying extremely advanced "anti-gravitational" space crafts, capable of very fast interstellar travel.

Gary McKinnon is a hacker that managed to break into the computers of the Army, Air Force, Navy and NASA. Among other interesting things, he found out that the US Navy has a fully operational fleet of spaceships.

In his own words, here is what he found out:

"I scanned and looked for documents, I found an Excel spreadsheet which said, ‘Non-terrestrial officers’. It had ranks and names. It had tabs for ‘material transfer’ between ships. I took that to be, they must have a ships based in space – the names started with U.S.S."

McKinnon is now facing a ten-year legal battle that could end up with life in prison. You can watch his interview here.

And the evidence to support McKinnon's claims is truly overwhelming. For example, Ben Rich, CEO of Lockheed Skunk Works, has famously stated in 1993:
"We now have the technology to take ET home." (Read more)
Ben Rich also admitted that the extraterrestrial flying saucers are real, and our space program is built with alien technology:
"There are two types of UFOs — the ones we build and the ones 'they' build. We learned from both crash retrievals and actual 'hand-me-downs.'"
His colleague, Don Phillips, Lockheed design engineer, CIA and USAF backed his claims. (Read more)

Another Senior Scientist for Lockheed Martin and Area 51 scientist, Boyd Bushman, has openly talked about aliens stationed in Area 51 and "anti-gravity" technology, just before passing away in 2014. You can watch his testimony here.

'Captain Kaye' claimed to have spent 17 years on Mars and three years aboard an enormous space carrier.

Andrew Basiago also claimed to have been on Mars 40 times, and corroborates Captain Kaye's claims that there is an established human colony there.

Whistleblower Corey Goode claims to have been recruited through one of the MILAB programs at the age of six and personally traveled on Mars, where the Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate (ICC)...
"...has an entire industrial infrastructure that includes bases, stations, outposts, mining operations and facilities on Mars, various moons and spread throughout the main Asteroid Belt (where a “Super Earth Planet” once existed). They have facilities to take raw materials and turn them into usable materials to produce both complex metals and composite materials that our material sciences have not dreamt of yet." (Source)
Laura Magdalene Eisenhower, the great-granddaughter of former US President Dwight David Eisenhower, has gone on record and testified that she was targeted for recruitment for a secret space program that would have allowed her to go on Mars, where there's a secret colony of humans. (Source)

Now, corroborating all these accounts, it becomes obvious that 'they' really have an advanced secret space program going on for decades and NASA is just a smokescreen for the public. Do you really think that the previously mentioned ICC would allow NASA to roam around with their rovers, taking pictures?

As an alleged, anonymous, "anti-gravity" insider, known as CaptainS, stated in 2011:
"NASA is just a front for the public. (...) The real space program falls in the military's domain, mainly Air force and Navy. But the nice chemical rockets sure are fun to watch... Very few people from NASA are actually in the loop. They don't know anything."
So, basically, NASA's role is to keep us distracted with their fake pictures from Devon Island, while the big boys have already established human colonies on Mars and who knows on how many other planets.

(On a happier, sarcastic note, I guess NASA's Photoshop experts will have a bright career in tourism, when NASA will eventually be shut down).

Before concluding this article, I leave you to watch NASA's absolutely ridiculous press conference about the alleged touch down of the rovers on Martian soil.

It has bad acting, fake excitement, lots of sweat and numerous in-your-face statements about this being just a movie that you paid for ($2.5 billion, to be specific).

These guys have absolutely no idea what they are talking about, they are unable to answer any scientific questions whatsoever and the journalists definitely know volumes more about this phony mission, but hey, as the guy says, it only cost you $7/person, so you might just as well enjoy it:

kjistrom #fundie rr-bb.com

[A thread that was a reaction to the discovery of an echo of the Big Bang has turned into a discussion on whether the speed of light is decreasing. Another fundie has criticized a creationist astronomer named Barr Setterfield.]

All of science believed that the s. of l. was decaying up until about 1950, many peer-reviewed papers were written. When they came to the understanding that their Evolution Theory would not work, they changed the s. of l. to a constant knowing that most could not do the math. Setterfield took on the task and was ridiculed for it for years, only in the last few years has his work been recognized as right. They still refuse to say their sorry for the ridiculing of his work though, because of their beloved Evolution Theory, but they know he's right

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Light was not created from the distant stars to the earth, the light was created from the earth, our Lord and Creator was standing on the earth when He created the light and it went out from here. Science always gets it wrong because of that.
I'm not dogmatic on this but I would think that some of the light still has not reached the farthest stars. Science would say that the light has not reached the earth yet, their wrong.

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No scientist that believes in Darin's nonsense and his book "On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life."
Secular Science has stopped those like the Setterfields from publishing just like any creation scientist can not publish any of their findings.

The Last Trump #fundie christiannews.net

Tell you about Creation? No problem.

In the beginning, God created.
Done. Wasn't that easy? And the universe confirms it. Overwhelming evidence of clear intelligent design with purpose in everything we see.

I'll elaborate. I know most of you anti God, LGBT trolls are a little slow.

There's just no getting around the intelligent design argument. Unless you're a blooming id!ot. Creation itself testifies of our Creator. Just the discoveries in a strand of DNA should have ended all debate a long time ago: “DNA is an information code. The overwhelming conclusion is that information DOES NOT and CANNOT arise spontaneously by mechanistic processes. INTELLIGENCE is a necessity in the origin of any informational code, including the genetic code, NO MATTER how much time is given.” (Lane Lester, Ph.D. Genetics, The Natural Limits to Biological Change, 1989.)

Open a medical book and see the absolute marvel that is the human body. Flip through the different systems of our bodies. And then try to “fit” evolution into what you are actually seeing. Circulatory system, nervous system, skeletal system, muscular system, digestive system, endocrine system, immune system, urinary system, reproductive system, respiratory system. Ridiculous integration and complexity in design! So many complex systems designed to work together or not at all. We are incredible "machines" that defy "magic". The logical conclusion is intelligent design. The illogical, "magic".

Now lets have a look at the universe. Einstein and his contemporaries believed the universe was a constant. That it had no beginning, that it always just was. Until Hubble came along and proved with scientific measurements that it was expanding and so, indeed, had a beginning from which it expanded. The Bible for thousands of years has told us that creation began suddenly when God proclaimed, “Let there be light.” Further, the Bible repeatedly states that God has “stretched out the heavens.” Interesting choice of words as it turns out. Scientists today are confirming that our universe indeed had a beginning, a sudden explosion of light followed by rapid expansion. Einstein and the greatest scientific minds of the twentieth century, WRONG. BIBLE RIGHT. Can you explain that for me? Guess those simple shepherds just guessed it right, huh? Just another COINCIDENCE in a never ending chain of coincidences where God is concerned.

Whatever you want to believe, the Bible has already told us that this universe we live in had a beginning and science confirms it. So WHERE did IT come from? WHAT caused IT to BE? Big Bang? Obviously, SOMEBODY made IT (?) go bang!

What you would call "magic", I know as GOD. No matter how you cut it, everything came from somewhere, and SOMEONE or SOMETHING had to just BE, for it all to come FROM. Had to be a starting point.
Now what is more logical?

Magic? Or the Intelligent Design that is overwhelmingly supported by the body of evidence? Exactly. My "hypocritical statements"? Hardly.
I'm just not fool enough to believe that highly complex "machines" and systems CREATE THEMSELVES. Just follow the scientific evidence and let's give the credit to WHO it is due.

inverter #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Because I know what the scientific "evidence" is but I just don't buy it. I believe that if evolution were true and we descended from apes, that is Man came from apes because we evolved from a lower into a higher being, then apes would have slowely died out. And why did all humans evolve in the exact same way? How did all the organs evolve and still work? You see all of the organs are needed to sustain life and if we came from one molecule, that one molecule needed the entire package in order to live. But to me science dosen't prove that molecules could have done that. Why isn't there half ape half man? Why don't some have wings? We could use wings, that would get us places faster and if evolution is true then maybe we would have evolved into that. I know that all seems corny and stupid to you, but its the little questions like that that just make evolution so unbelievable. Hey I didn't inherit Christianity and that was it. I looked at both choices and decided that A created world is much more feasable. That's just what I believe given the evidence. Evolution severly violates the law of non-contradiction. Which makes it an impossibility.
It shouldn't be a huge deal that people believe otherwise but scientists have a hardcore agenda and does not tolerate creationists. Which is silly and wrong, and to me hurts their case even further.

CERNology #conspiracy godlikeproductions.com

The Frightening Science What They Are Really Doing At CERN

I posted this in the CERN Earthquake thread and thought it might make a good thread of its' own.

First of all to hopefully simplify things for everyone: The Earth operates like a huge DC motor. Our planet, all the weather, the tectonic plates which float on magma and even more that I don't know about is electromagnetic. The magnetosphere receives it's energy from the Sun. We see that power all the time when we see huge storms, thunder, lightning little rain showers, and winds all over the Globe. Not to mention the magnetic ley lines all over the planet that are linked to government classified and occult technology dating back to at least the pyramids.

How do you think respected scientists are able to say that they can use HAARP to create weather anomalies, earthquakes and even some with real understanding say mind control with these atmospheric heaters (a.k.a. HAARP)? It is because our planet and every living thing on it is sensitive to anything screwing around with these EM fields. Our brains function electromagnetically at ELF's (extremely low frequencies) of around 10 Hz.

So at CERN they are taking two streams of lead-ions and releasing them in what they call bunches of trillions of particles with very very short intervals in between bunches.
They are doing this with two streams traveling in opposite directions. So, arguably what they are doing can be thought of as two streams of liquid lead traveling in opposite directions at **near the speed of light**.

Now here is the important point that you and everyone remotely interested in CERN needs to understand. They are propelling these particles at near the speed of light. And Though the thoughts and math change in both of Albert Einstein's General and Special Theories of Relativity, one important thing does not change.

The relativistic mass of each particle gets greater as the velocity increases toward the speed of light. The mass or weight of each particle relative to the observer increases toward infinity as the particle gets nearer and nearer to the velocity of light.

What this means is that the electromagnetic fields needed to just get these super heavy particles at speed is difficult to comprehend. Then you have to consider containing these two rings of liquid lead as they are only increasing in mass or weight as they get faster and faster. It is mind boggling.

Now consider that they were previously colliding protons and they were doing that at an angle. Now, protons weigh almost like nothing when compared to a whole atom of lead. And they were crashing them at an angle. They are colliding these lead ion particles head on and there are a lot more of them and the duration between groups of particles is so short that it almost may as well not be there at all.

So to sum up what is really happening. CERN scientists are misleading people about the amounts of energy being released. Before it was 13 TeV which others have said isn't a lot. Yes that is true but that was for a single collision of a proton at an angle. The reason that there have been physicists issuing warnings and conCERN about what they were planning to do at the LHC is because you have to multiply that 13 TeV by billions and trillions of ANGULAR collisions to understand that it is like trying to contain the energy of one of the Hiroshima or Nagasaki WWII nuclear explosions within a very small space and containing it electromagnetically.

The difference now is the energy releases of single collisions of lead-ions can be described in PeV (Peta Electron Volts). A PeV is 1000 times the energy of a TeV. So the energy projected to be released now is more than 100 times what it was previously published. Plus the collisions were at an angle before and now they are head on. In addition, there are far far more of them and in very very quick succession. Really no interval at all even in terms of time at the atomic level. I would have said in terms of time at the quantum level but time breaks down at the quantum level.

So now instead of billions and trillions of collisions, we are talking about trillions and quadrillions of collisions. I really can't comprehend how they have the technology to even build a machine that can contain these energies especially in light of what Einstein said about these particles getting heavier and heavier towards infinity as velocity increases.

Now I am not a theoretical physicist but I am an engineer and people tell me I am pretty smart. But with the little I do know about what they are doing, the technology they are using to do this must be super top secret Roswell type stuff. What they will not be able to prevent is what these electromagnetic fields that they are using are going to do to the Earth.

They scary part is, these super genius scientists themselves are readily admitting that they don't know what is going to happen. They have built the biggest machine the modern world has ever seen and they have adopted a wait and see attitude?

That's the kind of crap I used to do as 13 or 14 year old kid with gasoline and any other chemicals I could get my hands on! I know this is long and I apologize for that but to top it all off. They are openly occult. They are timing everything to the minute with occult dates and their freaking logo has 666 right there in plain sight.

Almost done Thanks for reading this far. I think I needed to vent!

99.99% of people don't know that the very first website was guess where? CERN. That is even though the Internet was created by DARPA, the first website of all websites operated at CERN of all places. That was 1980. This is a scary amount of long-term planning tied to CERN and the Internet. Final thought. Initially the Internet was awesome and it looked like freedom for ideas and thoughts and generally freedom for all. Now the Internet is the absolute opposite of that and it is the most diabolical scheme for population and mind control the world has ever seen.

Some have longingly said (Nazi evil humans have said) gee whiz if Hitler and the Nazis had only had the Internet.
Well now we have people in control that make make Hitler look like a sweet school girl in comparison.

I don't know what CERN is going to do. It really could be not much that we can physically see. It also could be very horrible. Both possibilities are equal in probability.
Ultimately with or without CERN though, we are heading to an evil end which appears more obvious and more ominous and inevitable with every world news cast each day.

BrazilianSigMarxist #racist #sexist reddit.com

There are only three genders: male, female and Mongofoid. Therefore resorting to Mongofoids still make you incel if you are a heterosexual male, since Mongofoids do not have female secondary sex characteristics.

According to trans activists, gender and sex is not binary and occupies a wide and diverse spectrum. Not only is there male and female, but a heterogeneous range of intersex realities and identities.

Knowing that, should AF be included in the LGBTQIA+ community? Despite most of them having wombs and vaginas (decorated with extensive gray and brown beef curtains), most of them lack secondary sex characteristics that would alert the casual observer to their female status. They may have female genitalia but secondary female characteristics like breasts and feminine curves are strangely absent from this species.

Furthermore, their faces exhibit almost no femininity at all and an AF is indistinguishable from an AM when she adopts the same grooming as the average man. Their eyes are masculine and small, and bald in addition which emphasizes the manly nature of their face. This is not helped by their robust face shape and strong, square jaw. I have seen many white and black men who are much more facially feminine than AF despite having all the usual male characteristics.

Scientific studies have shown that it is actually possible to distinguish gay faces from straight faces by their relative divergence from the masculine or feminine norms of their gender. Gay male faces tend to be more feminine, while gay female faces tend to be more masculine. Scientists posit that this is due to prenatal hormonal influences.

Knowing that, should the divergent sexual characteristics of AF make them a seperate gender from normal women, and instead some sort of intersex gender that includes the worst traits of dyadic male and dyadic female?

Yes, there is sufficient argumentation and many straight men have already began to recognize AF as non-viable partners due to various factors like their intersex nature and inherent evil. In fact gender theorists have begun to hypothesize that AF are a non-linear element in the gender-sex spectrum and that male-male attraction is actually less gay than being with an AF, especially since plenty of gay males demonstrate some feminine characteristics in their physical appearance and manner of comportment.

By proposing this thesis I mean no insult to the LGBTQIA+ community, and maybe suggest that instead that AF be included in the MOGAI (Marginalized Orientations, Gender identities, And Intersex) community instead, which is populated with bestiality enthusiasts and weirdos who like to fuck under 12s. Unfortunately, AF run rampant in all countries and are not curtailed from their devious and disastrous activities like they should be, so it looks like the A in LGBTQIA+ stands for Asianfemale now.

Asexuals will just have to be content with being represented with +, and to be fair being surrounded by AF will make you asexual anyway.

Andrew Anglin #fundie #wingnut dailystormer.name

[From "Maybe If Andrew Kaczynski Repented, God Would Heal His Child’s Cancer?"]

Writing about the program of brutal censorship this morning after a German scientist had his door kicked in by cops and was arrested at gunpoint for questioning the coronavirus narrative, I mentioned the incident where CNN hunted down and blackmailed a person that made a meme making fun of CNN, which was retweeted by Donald Trump.
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We soon found out Han Asshole Solo’s real identity was somehow figured out by “KFile” writer Andrew Kaczynski, who went on to publicly document that he contacted the man and threatened to publicly expose his identity if he continued to make memes. The apology was posted after Solo was contacted by Kaczynski.
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Of course, despite the fact that it is obviously illegal to blackmail someone like this – it’s extortion whenever you threaten to cause someone harm in exchange for them doing something for you – law enforcement did not investigate.

But God investigated.

He found Kaczynski to be wanting.

And He gave his child cancer.
[…]
I know that if I were Andrew Kaczynski, and I was holding my cancer-riddled infant child, I would be begging God for forgiveness for the evil I had done, and I would be promising Him that I would make amends for it. I would publicly apologize for serving the murderers of Jesus Christ and I would publicly apologize to all of the people I’d harmed.
[…]
God has made it clear that children will be punished for the sins of their fathers. [Exodus 20;5-6]

CruisingTroll #fundie patheos.com

So, the notion that there can't be any link between race and intelligence is about as anti-scientific as one can get. But hey, once they were willing to throw up that wall, then moving to the current gender madness was almost inevitable.

btw, I think one reason why the science community was so quick and willing to go along to with the "disfavoring" of research on race and intelligence isn't even a case of anti-intellectualism OR knuckling under to the attacks of "anti-racists." No, I think it was fundamentally more personal than that. For scientists and most within the "science community", intelligence is a core component of personal worth. It is an oft noted flaw among scientists, being jerks to the "less intelligent" simply because they're less intelligent. They, understandably, didn't want to consciously be party to something that would potentially cast vast swaths of humanity as "inferior." For most secular, hard core materialist scientists, it was even more difficult, because engaging the question of "human value" is mighty difficult when there is no soul of infinite worth. Best to avoid the matter entirely, which also means enforcing the avoidance upon others. The distinction between generalizations of race based on statistical aggregations versus the discrete characteristics of a single individual is cold comfort to those who with any awareness of history.

After all, the eugenics movement was "based in science."

This is why almost invariably the first and most frequent line of attack that the anti-intellectuals on the Left take against science that raises uncomfortable questions about humans and human nature is "you're attempting to dehumanize them, to denigrate them, etc". They take that line because that's what the possible conclusions say to THEM. Less intelligent = less of a person. Mentally ill (transgender) = less of a person. They KNOW this is the "logic" of their worldview, because they'll ardently articulate it when it comes to aborting a child with Down's Syndrome or some other birth defect. Combine that with their having gone all in on collectivism, and they recoil at the implications of research that would indicate any of their "favored" groups is flawed. This is why you'll see plenty of research, both real science and more commonly pseudo-science, into the collective flaws of men (toxic masculinity, anyone?) or "whites" or Christians, but rarely other groups.

For society, the continued rejection of reality is going to come at a high cost. For Christians, the foundation of scientific inquiry should be the fact that God created it all, and that each human soul is of infinite value.

The Last Trump #fundie christiannews.net

It's refreshing to hear honest researchers simply report on the data and candidly admit where the evidence appears to lead. But this honesty comes at a terrible price. You would think that the scientific arena would promote objectivity and serious consideration of all ideas. But that's not what we find. In fact, it's just the opposite. It is the goal of every researcher to get published. But in academia, peer review is used to determine an academic paper's suitability for publication. And under this flawed system, the acceptance of a new find trumps its actual validity: "We portray peer review to the public as a quasi-sacred process that helps to make science our most objective truth teller. But we know that the system of peer review is biased, unjust, unaccountable, incomplete, easily fixed, often insulting, usually ignorant, occasionally foolish, and frequently wrong." (Richard Horton, editor of the British medical journal The Lancet).

"The interposition of editors and reviewers between authors and readers may enable the intermediators to act as gatekeepers. Some sociologists of science argue that peer review makes the ability to publish susceptible to control by elites and to personal jealousy.The peer review process may suppress dissent against "mainstream" theories. Reviewers tend to be especially critical of conclusions that contradict their own views, and lenient towards those that match them. At the same time, established scientists are more likely than others to be sought out as referees, particularly by high-prestige journals/publishers. As a result, ideas that harmonize with the established experts' are more likely to see print and to appear in premier journals than are iconoclastic or revolutionary ones." (Wikipedia, "Peer Review," various sources, references 41-48.)

Under such restrictions, as you would expect, researchers are forced to go along if they want to get along. Otherwise their careers are over before they've even begun. And it is within this environment that for some bizarre reason intelligent design has been absolutely barred from all discussion.

Guillermo Gonzalez is one of the astrobiologists who co-wrote the book, "The Privileged Planet". He was an assistant professor in the department of physics and astronomy at Iowa State University. When I checked into his background a little deeper I was disappointed to learn (but certainly not surprised) that after publishing his views in the book that he co-authored, his tenure was subsequently denied by the university when it came due. "Academic tenure is primarily intended to guarantee the right to academic freedom: it protects teachers and researchers when they dissent from prevailing opinion, openly disagree with authorities of any sort, or spend time on unfashionable topics. Thus academic tenure is similar to the lifetime tenure that protects some judges from external pressure. Without job security, the scholarly community as a whole may experience pressure to favor noncontroversial lines of academic inquiry. The intent of tenure is to allow original ideas to be more likely to arise, by giving scholars the intellectual autonomy to investigate the problems and solutions as they see fit, and to report their honest conclusions." (Wikipedia). After many appeals he has since moved on and currently resides at Ball State University in Indiana as an assistant professor in the department of physics and astronomy.

Two years prior to his consideration for tenure, approximately 130 members of the faculty of Iowa State University signed a statement opposing "all attempts to represent Intelligent Design as a scientific endeavor." Similar statements were issued by faculty at the University of Northern Iowa and at the University of Iowa. A total of approximately 400 professors signed the three petitions. Here are a few of the statements made:

"Intelligent Design has become a significant issue in science education, and it has now established a presence, even if minimal, at Iowa State University. Accordingly, if you are concerned about the negative impact of Intelligent Design on the integrity of science and on our university, please consider signing the "Statement on Intelligent Design by Iowa State University Faculty" below. We, therefore, urge all faculty members to uphold the integrity of our university of "science and technology," convey to students and the general public the importance of methodological naturalism in science, and reject efforts to portray Intelligent Design as science."

Wow. Does that sound like objective scientists to anybody? Banding together to pre-emptively strike down any and all theory of intelligent design, regardless of evidence. A Creator is just too unthinkable for these "scientists" regardless of where the evidence leads. Even the TV show, Ancient Aliens, is more objective than this bunch and regularly exposes the ridiculously flawed version of history we are required to believe. They, too, however, have an unthinkable attitude toward God, and so attribute our creation and assistance to aliens. The responsibility for the overwhelming evidence for our design has to belong to someone, right?

How very strange that any honest research that leads to logical conclusions pointing to intelligent design should be such an affront to the establishment, and so, be discredited straightaway. Once upon a time we formed theories based on evidence. Today we force the "evidence" to fit the theory and discard what doesn't fit. This inexcusable bias and intolerance to truth is, alas, the reality of the "science" of today. Shameful. We really have to do our own homework and fully utilize the Internet. Mainstream channels are unreliable and you simply won't find the truth on T.V. Hats off to the folks who are risking everything by resisting these academic bullies, sacrificing promotions and careers to reach us with the facts.
We can make up our own minds from there.

whoopn #fundie telegraph.co.uk

Let's have us a little science here, rather than uneducated conjecture as seems to be so prevalent on this post. You know...all of these answers are out there and are easily tangible if you read the bible and do a little bit of research that doesn't involve atheists and their pithy opinions.

Read this:
http://www.drdino.com/the-star-of-bethlehem-fact-or-fiction

Stop believing every atheist is smart, they are generally children looking for a place among the greats but sadly they have no greater accomplishment then trash talking what they do not understand. Nearly every great scientist was Christian: Newton, Maxwell, Legrange, and the list is huge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_thinkers_in_science).

The reason for this is they didn't spend all of their waking hours trying to disprove and everpresent fact. There is a God, He sent is Son to reconcile us to Him by taking our Sin and NAILING it to a cross.
Yes there was a virgin birth and no that is not normal.

Yes Jesus lived and died a sinless and unmarried God/man.

No the church is not perfect and never will be, in fact if you find a perfect church don't join it...you'll only mess it up.

No being Christian isn't about living your life trying not to sin, if it were then we'd all sit and do nothing so we couldn't sin. The POINT was that we WOULD do something, that we would tell the world about Christ's sacrifice so that you all can know Him.

Going to Heaven isn't about WHAT you know, its about WHO you know.

St. Peter is NOT standing at some pearly gate, the gate keeper is Christ and no one else.

And if you like to think of Christians as stupid and ignorant fools that have to leave their brains at the door when they go to church then you are sorely mistaken. To know Christ and to understand Him is the most deeply involving mental task you will ever try to undertake, and without Christ's salvation and the holy spirit living inside you one can NOT understand.

I don't judge you, I simply point out the fact that you can't stop judging others because of your own fear that everything I am typing is true and you know it.

Whiterabbit29 #conspiracy abovetopsecret.com

I have recently just watched an Unsolved Mysteries Documentary on UFO's I'm not to sure what year it was from so maybe this is old news! In this documentary they gave several reasons why some crop circles can simply not be hoaxes or be created by humans in anyway I have not heard any of these facts before so would be interested to know if anybody else has and maybe has info that disproves them!

1. The base of the crop whatever crop it maybe in a hoax is always broken on the section that enters the ground in the other type the base has been softened bent over and the re-hardened again and the crop continues to grow as normal and can still be harvested!

2. Using sound equipment there is a noticable interference recorded near the centre of one of the circles wich dissapates the further away from the centre you move!

3. A study has been done into the cellular structure of the crops comparing samples from inside the formation to those outside it. The samples taken from outside the formation had cloudy crystals in an erratic pattern and those from within the formation had clearer crystals in a much more uniformed pattern!

In the documentary it mentioned footage that had been captured of the formation of 2 crop circles by a team of scientist under the name operation blackbird I was wondering if anybody knew anything about this footage? It also mentioned formations that had appeared in the Arctic circle If anybody has any pics would be great to see them!

Angel #fundie amazon.com

[Can't you see how convoluted this explanation is? You're beginning with your conclusion and working backwards, which is the method used by a believer and not a scientist.]

I am stating my conclusion to you, and working backwards. When I thought of this process, I worked forward in a step-wise manner.

All pieces of the puzzle must be carefully examined if you are initially given a completed puzzle.

As an example, Einstein may have been working on Energy and he may have calculated the product of mc^2 first.

Knowing the product and knowing the weight of the matter he was working with, Einstein may have calculated backwards to find "what value" times that amount of matter would give him that amount of Energy.

Therefore, working backwards, Einstein may have played around with the equation until he found speed of light squared was the missing link.

Or Einstein may have known the speed of light, but that value did not work in his equation. Einstein, therefore, may have doubled the speed of light and that didn't work either, and as a result of a few failures, he may have ultimately squared the speed of light. Once Einstein squared the speed of light that solved his problem. Einstein easily could have worked backwards.

Having the value for the speed of light squared, Einstein then would have been able to show E = mc^2.

Yet, Einstein may have found his formula by working either forward or backward.

Jeffrey Guhin #fundie newscientist.com

"Scientism” is the belief that all we need to solve the world’s problems is – you guessed it – science. People sometimes use the phrase “rational thinking”, but it amounts to the same thing. If only people would drop religion and all their other prejudices, we could use logic to fix everything.

Last week, US astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson offered up the perfect example of scientism when he proposed the country of Rationalia, in which “all policy shall be based on the weight of evidence”.

Tyson is a very smart man, but this is not a smart idea. It is even, we might say, unreasonable and without sufficient evidence. Of course, imagining a society in which everyone behaves logically sounds appealing. But employing logic to consider the concept reveals that there could be no such thing.

There has always been a hope, especially as elites became less religious, that science would do more than simply provide a means for learning about the world around us. Science should also teach us how to live, pointing us towards the salvation that religion once promised. You can see this in any of the secular utopianisms of the 20th century, whether it’s the Third Reich, scientific Marxism, or the “modernisation thesis” of Western capitalism.

...

First, experts usually don’t know nearly as much as they think they do. They often get it wrong, thanks to their inherently irrational brains that – through overconfidence, bubbles of like-minded thinkers, or just wanting to believe their vision of the world can be true – mislead us and misinterpret information.

Rationality is subjective. All humans experience such biases; the real problem is when we forget that scientists and experts are human too, and approach evidence and reasoned deliberation with the same prior commitments and unspoken assumptions as anyone else. Scientists: they’re just like us.

And second, science has no business telling people how to live. It’s striking how easily we forget the evil that following “science” can do. So many times throughout history, humans have thought they were behaving in logical and rational ways, only to realise that such acts have yielded morally heinous policies that were only enacted because reasonable people were swayed by “evidence”.

Phrenology – the determination of someone’s character through the shape and size of their cranium – was cutting-edge science. (Unsurprisingly, the upper class had great head ratios.) Eugenics was science, as was social Darwinism and the worst justifications of the Soviet and Nazi regimes.

Scientific racism was data-driven too, and incredibly well-respected. Scientists in the 19th century felt quite justified in claiming that “the weight of evidence” supported African slavery, white supremacy and the concerted effort to limit the reproduction of the “lesser” races.

It wasn’t so long ago that psychiatrists considered homosexuality unhealthy and abhorrent. There is at least one prominent, eminently rational psychiatrist who hasn’t come around on transgenders. And many scientists decided that women were biologically incapable of the same kind of rationality you find in men, a scientific sexism reborn in contemporary evolutionary psychology.

...

In fact, creationism has a lot more in common with scientism than people such as Tyson or Richard Dawkins would ever admit. Like Tyson, creationists begin with certain prior commitments (“evolution cannot be true”, for example, substitutes for “science cannot be wrong”) and build an impressively consistent argument upon them. Just about everyone is guilty of some form of “motivated reasoning”: we begin with certain priors, and then find a way to get the evidence to do what we want.

The past mistakes of science should make us sceptical that it could be used to build a utopia. But, the scientists might say, science is most important for its ability to self-correct. Psychiatry has come around on homosexuality, for example. This may be true, yet it presents the precise reason why attempting to act only accounting for the “weight of evidence” is so flawed.

I. R. Coon #racist niggermania.net

Well, back from my "exile". As what I mentioned in some of my posts, I work for an Antarctic research program as a field guide. And than in the Nordic winter, I work in Antarctica, a White continent, and... nigger free. But also here, divershity is slowly rearing its Ugly head. Here is one of my experiences.

In November, I took the MOD (RAF) flight from Brize Norton, to the Falklands, to board the ship that would bring me to my destination, a research station on the Antarctic Peninsula. But, when I came on board, I encountered this sow, who seems to be the token niggeres of the "Survey". I kept my distance, not wanting to be involved with its antics. It showed all the shenanigans of a typical nigger (TNB): obnoxious, egoistical, thinking it knows all, telling it has a higher positions than what it was etc etc.

As an example: One of the luxuries we have: we can drink alcohol on board, but one time the beakers (Scientists) had a party, and that went quite wrong, result: a few days no beer in the bar. So result: the sow, which had a bottle of whine, entered the lounge, with a smug smile on its mug, from: "look at me, i've has whine 'n shite" and starting to drink it, while we had to do it with soft drink. With other words: how to irritate people.. Another example: it was working for estates, but it presented it self as Head of estates...

Seasickness and other "important" stuff. We had gash duty, which meant that on a rota, we did some small cleaning onboard, like restocking the bar, helping the catering crew while we are on board. And with this sow, it happened a couple of times, that it felt seasick and didn't had to do it's gash duty. So, I managed to survive that beast on board, and was really looking forward to the season. The only big shock for me was yesterday, after a couple of months, nigg free, when I arrived in London: niggers everywhere, so that is a some culture shock than.. Glad I'm back in Llanberis..

ConservativeYouthMovement #fundie freeconservatives.com

Also, the truth of the matter is bob, we live in a democracy. Reguardless of what you would like to believe, if the majority of the people do not believe in evolution and want it banned, it should never be up to a judge to decide the will of the people, nor should it be up to elitist scientists who think they are better than ANYONE.

There is no question that intelligent design does not have the same scientific grounds as evolution, however truth is a matter of perception and not of reality in this case. The simple fact of the matter is, if the creationists are wrong, they die knowing their life meant something and die happy. [...]

The reason the scientists highlight evolution as the most fundamental principal in biology is thusly due to public attention will always lead back to the money tree, which will allow them to progress within the other fields of their sciences due to the attention of the public. Simply put, evolution is a crock to make money, whether it be true or untrue.

Gregg Buell #crackpot #conspiracy #racist web.archive.org

[Did someone say does this stuff sometimes sound like poetry. Have some song/poetry of pure racist conspiratorial alternative science]

Introduction to the Light Year Conquest Corporation

My deck of cards has 52 nearest solar systems
NASA has not even mapped out 52 nearest solar systems
Let alone made plans to travel to another solar system
Lets play 52 pick up
With new card and board games
Coerce NASA into another Moon Landing
Make NASA stick up for themselves against the Pentagon
In the year 2000 Joint Chiefs of Staff news article
Approved a new Moon Base but it never materialized
The Joint Chiefs of Staff canceled Apollo
30 years of wars substitutes Apollo scientists with troops
NASA director sold out in 1980 when the Electric Windmill Car
Was invented
NASA director sold out to the Joint Chiefs of Staff
Hidden safely behind hidden cameras no one complained
NASA also lost humanity its first Aircraft Carrier Hospital Ships
Electric Windmill Ships windfall is a new Hospital ship
NASA coerced into doing the wrong thing
This could not happen if the hidden cameras were exposed
NASA’s unequivocal triumph of genius was shot in the head
By those with the guns
No avoiding WW III now
After the NYC WTC attack
Nukes will eventually be planted in NYC
Unless the other side is totally, bankrupt
Invent an Electric Windmill Car + Ship a stroke of luck
Idiot Generals suppress luck and genus
Promoted to General after you walk on the Moon
Thousands could be living on the Moon in 2002
Inventions in landing on the Moon
Destroy by the Joint Chiefs of Staff
Invention board game on the computer
You land on the moon and all these inventions pop up
To invent 1,001 spin off inventions
Game more sophisticated than any Microsoft game
You land on Curie, Bell, or Edison and pop up windows
List all their inventions
Atomic age poetry just before Nukes blast off in NYC
We must change all the worlds madmen
WW III before we visit another solar system
Thanks to the NASA directors who sold out to Generals
Joint Chiefs of Staff wanted it this way
Unequivocal triumph of Madness
There is no avoiding WW III now
Now we must win WW III
Parish in Nuclear War over the suppressed Electric Car
Oil Kings have no mercy on the masses
TV News went along with this for Oil Money payoffs
Double-dealer they took cancer research funds
CNN and MSNBC did this to humanity
On a scale of $$$$ Hundreds of Billions of dollars
TV stifles
This takes on another connotation today
Electric Windmill Car + Ship would have drove humanity
To the nearest 52 nearest solar systems in 1980
Generals get new glasses and the Rx with their benefits
5 billion people pay dearly for these Generals
Bridges and crowns are the most expensive
So, false teeth are suppressed to billions by dentists
Everyone’s mentality is that of Oil Kings and their Court
Government lets those who prey on us rule
Big Brother is watching, but not watching out for you
Big Brother is watching, but not watching out for you
There is no seizing hole of Big Brothers conscience
He is like a Black Rapists taking what gets him off
Cold-blooded killers
Blacks are born; the Army coerces Whites
NASA could dominate over these environments
But choose not to fight for the right to Moon Landings
NYC will join club Hiroshima
Jews will spread their war to the shores of America
Intellectuals in a unpublished war behind hidden cameras
Oil was bankrupt in 1980
Cancer could have been cured with real Intellectuals
Who could outsmart the Jews and Generals
Moreover, land on the Moon
With thousands of troops who would be promoted to general
Intellectual talk about what is gravity
Is never published on the News
News keeps the masses uninsured and in debt with student loans
Comprehend the News media doing this to 5 billion people
News of the new atom laser at MIT
Does nothing if its not in your computer invention games
Waves or particles in physics
Even Physics News Updates on the web sold out to Warriors
52 nearest solar systems are out of their mind
Really, they are out of their minds
Impossible for men at war to see 52 nearest solar systems
Let alone trade their war inventions for space inventions
Genius of a computer board game
That brings up all the inventions in history of man
Finally a program that needs more computing power
Than Microsoft Golf
Observe protons in multimedia giving off light and gravity
Warp speed space ships with gravity satellite engines
Aliens on the way to the nearest 52 nearest solar systems
Joint Chiefs of Staff never wanted you to know about this
Even the Joint Chiefs of Staff could not avoid being sucked into
OK’ing black hole of Faggot Sex in the Army Oil Kings wanted
Misleading you are the idle rich
Misleading you are the idle rich
How is gravity generated can be misleading
How hard it is to find this invention is also misleading
USA is mobilizing for WW III not a gravity invention
Mobilization of the intellectuals waits until the war is won
Between wars we land on the Moon
In addition, install smart lasers on cars
War is more addictive than landing on the Moon
It’s in the atrocities that’s hard to comprehend for Astronauts
News she knew it was wrong to drown her five kids
No news about 5,000 kids burning in gasoline fires
Our American Caesar and Oil Kings
Will be reincarnated in a distant galaxy of Hell
Consciousness transported at warp speed
To some Hell hole 52 million light years from here
Turn to your consciousness and brain inventions
Brain will have a slot in my computer board game
Lobotomy history up to the gas that can tame Generals
Jew Generals who get off on killing PLO girls
A lobotomy gas can suppress this desire
It just has to be invented
A perpetual motion machine creates gravity
There are thousands of perpetual motion machines
They exist in their own spectrum
Far from the Judgements of our Supreme Court
Conduct of this highest Court
Is responsible for the NYC WTC attack
Business as usual
Even when mobilization is for war not Universe Conquest
Sailing over cosmic rays, gamma rays, x-rays going fast
Some s-rays can travel 450 times the speed of light
Next generation of high tension lines from Public Service
Public Service will not invent these
Someone playing the computer board game
My deck of cards has 52 nearest solar systems will
Mobilization catalysts can be war or universe
Top leadership of Earth has picked war for now
Observe Ivy League selfishness in their web pages
You need a password even to pay your tuition
Pay Channels on Cable TV do not offer a University
CEO forgot to have any mercy on 5 billion people
Miracle of vision
If you land on this on my board game, you get Mercy
No mercy in the number of pop up windows
As they will fill your computer screen
Throw the dice in the Casino
Lawmakers threw billions of people to the trash bin
Godsend of perception that created itself
Ha
52 pick up is more than picking up on 52 solar systems
52 pick up is more than picking up on 52 solar systems
Commanding Officers do not second-guess vision
Big Brother is watching on hidden cameras
But not for consciousness inventions
Public Services is not know for its innovativeness
Light year travel depends on these Public Utilities too
Train wrecks and car wrecks are beyond their innovations
How do you expect them to travel a few light years?
How do you expect them to travel a few light years?
Docking rocket sections in orbit
Docking 747’s in flight
Train concept is one of the places you can land on my game
100% power from your Intel CPU will be used
When you land on this Hotel
Hotel is not a Casino - you can win here
Photographic memory can be made into a pill
You just have to make the gamble to find these pills
Nuclear scientists are occupied
Smarter scientists can pick and choose invention games
Bankers have been intimidated by Oil money
Fiery car crashes with people on fire inside didn’t intimidate
Bank One went along with the oil genocide
NYC Banks did too
One-arm bandits are the makers of idiot gamblers
Introduction to the Light Year Conquest Corporation
Introduction to the Light Year Conquest Corporation
Introduction to the Light Year Conquest Corporation
My deck of cards has 52 nearest solar systems
My deck of cards has 52 nearest solar systems
Land on any of the 52 solar systems
And all the inventions in history will pop up
In one of those annoying, pop up windows
Most annoying thing about Microsoft programs
Is their lack of pop up windows with histories inventions
Getting a PhD in Light Year Travel is eons away from reality
All of Chinas masses could profit from the sale of Taiwan
Using force how much could they get in dollars for Taiwan?
More billions than Bill Gates and Microsoft have
Using the money for tuition would double their money
Sailing Shanghi and Calcutta into a Riviera
Winds of the Electric Windmill Car and Ship
Would do more for these parts of the World than any other
Worst off would be Corpus Christi and Mecca
Profits from Oil have bought more cocaine than penicillin
ATT know who spends big bucks on long distance
Big Brother is listening to the cash
Injustice is by way of the Black MD’s who misdiagnose so much
Pointless to make a Black a MD
Just to have Black MD’s
Even their statistics makes them mass murderers
VIA the Medical School policies in place by the government
Introduction to the Light Year Conquest Corporation
I introduce you to a God invented Universe
My deck of cards has 52 nearest solar systems
That contains more things that are unimaginable
Than Humans could imagine
Than Humans could imagine
That could be living in the nearest 52 solar systems

Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D.D. #fundie disqus.com

Wyatt O'Keefe:

Have you ever noticed how evilutionists, when backed into a corner, attempt to retort their deficiencies by saying that they don't have an answer? Like, where did the Big Bang come from? Evilutionist: "ummm, we don't know, but you know, secular scientists are working on it..." LOL!

In the same vein, we can tell the evilutionist relative to his supposed "gotcha" questions, that the creation scientists are working on it. How did the kangaroo get to Australia? We don't know, but creation scientists are working on it!

Now here's another thing: did you know that tens of billions of US taxpayer dollars go to support secular research in the US? And because of anti-Christian discrimination, creation researchers do not get a dime of this public money! So, in order to be fair, the evilutionist/secularist satanists that ask such questions need to petition their legislators to allocate scientific funding to creation research, pronto! If only 1 billion dollars a year, a very small fraction of our nation's research budget (which is mostly wasted), would go to creation research, the pagans wouldn't have to wait very long to receive their answers!

In the same vein, I encourage every Christian to contact their congressmen, and let them know that we need funding for real research that delivers real answers that even the satanists (Matthew 12:30) are inquiring about!

In the name of our Savior,
Brother T

Unkown #conspiracy eaec.org

We have a story to tell you, a very strange story, one that affects you, me, and every other human being on earth. A story that must be taken seriously by the governments of every nation in the world because there may not be many humans left to govern by the turn of the century, or shortly thereafter. A story so bizarre, and so sinister that, if it were not for the fact that it is all true, it would make a great science fiction thriller. (Interestingly enough, Lorimar Pictures of Hollywood purchased the rights to Dr. Strecker's life story).

The story begins in 1983 with Dr. Robert B. Strecker, M.D., Ph.D. Dr. Strecker practices internal medicine and gastroenterology in Los Angeles. He is a trained pathologist and holds a Ph.D. in pharmacology. Dr. Strecker and his brother, Ted, an attorney, were preparing a proposal for a health maintenance organization (HMO) for the Security Pacific Bank of California. They needed to know the long-term financial effects of insuring the treatment of AIDS patients. In as much as this information was not readily available in 1983, both brothers began researching the medical literature to learn what they could about this relatively new disease. The information they uncovered right from the beginning was so startling to them, so hard to believe, that it would dramatically alter both their lives and lead them on a five-year quest culminating with the creation of "The Strecker Memorandum," the most controversial video of our time and a remarkable set of documents called "The Bio-Attack Alert."

WHAT THEY DISCOVERED

Right there in the medical literature for anyone to read for themselves was, basically, proof that the AIDS virus and pandemic was actually PREDICTED years ago by a world-famous virologist, among others. They found that top scientists writing in the BULLETIN of the World Health Organization were actually REQUESTING that AIDS-like viruses be created to study the affects on humans. In fact, the Streckers unearthed thousands of documents all supporting the man-made origin of AIDS.

Meanwhile, the government was telling everyone that a green monkey in Africa bit some native and started AIDS. As their research continued, it became obvious from the documentation that the virus itself was not only created as requested, but actually DEPLOYED, and now threatens the existence of mankind because it does what it was designed to do: cause cancer in humans via a contagious virus. Eventually, the Streckers came to realize everything the government, the so-called AIDS experts and media were telling the public was not only misleading, but out and out lies ... The truth of the matter is:

- AIDS is a man-made disease;

- AIDS is not a homosexual disease;

- AIDS is not a venereal disease;

- AIDS can be carried by mosquitoes;

- Condoms will not prevent AIDS;

- There are at least six different AIDS viruses loose in the world;

IGNORANCE IS BLISS OR IS IT SUICIDE?

We all know it is easier for a king to have a lie believed than a beggar to spread the truth. Well, we are spreading the truth about AIDS. Unfortunately, it isn't pretty. But the fact is you are not being told the truth by the government or the so-called AIDS experts. The media, for reasons of their own, will not present information contradicting the official propaganda. So you can choose to go along with the same people who gave us brain cancer (SV- 40) virus) as a result of their contaminated polio vaccines in the early 1960's; a polio-like disease from their contaminated Swine Flu vaccine in the 1970's; and AIDS from their smallpox and hepatitis B vaccines; or, you can at least make yourself aware of the clear and present dangers that we all face by watching "The Strecker Memorandum." The cost of the tape is nominal, but we submit that remaining ignorant can cost infinitely more.

Bryan Fischer #fundie afa.net

The question remains: is Gov. Perry right?

What follows is a straightforward, four-step refutation of the theory of evolution. The steps are easy to remember, and make a nice little cadence when spoken with a little rhythm: First Law, Second Law, Fossils and Genes. Armed with this truth, go forth and conquer.

[later on]


Before we even start, we ought to notice that, if evolution is true, there would be no way to know it. Because evolution teaches that everything that exists is the product of the random collision of atoms, this logically includes the thoughts I am thinking about evolution. But if my thoughts are the product of the random collision of atoms, there is no reason to think that any of them are true — they just are.

No one "random collision of atoms" can be said to be truer than another, any more than one randomly generated Rorschach ink blot can be said to be more correct than another.

As J.B.S. Haldane famously observed, "If my mental processes are determined wholly by the motion of atoms in my brain, I have no reason to suppose that my beliefs are true and hence I have no reason for supposing my brain to be composed of atoms."

All right, here we go.

First Law of Thermodynamics. This law (note: not a theory but a scientific law) teaches us that matter and energy can neither be created nor destroyed. In other words, an honest scientist will tell you that there is nothing in the observable universe that can explain either the origin of energy or matter. By logical extension, then, matter and energy had to come into being by some force outside the universe.

What this means, then, is that science simply has no explanation for the most basic question that could possibly be asked: why is there something rather than nothing?

Creationists and Intelligent Design advocates have an answer to this question; evolutionists do not.

When you see a turtle on a fence post, what's the one thing you know? Somebody put him there. When you see a world hanging in space, what's the one thing you know? Someone hung it there.

It's futile to resort to the big bang theory, as some evolutionists are wont to do. They say they have an explanation for the origin of the universe: it began when a ball of incredibly dense matter exploded and flung the universe into existence. Okay, fine. Now: where did that incredibly dense ball of matter come from?

Even Aristotle saw that behind the existence of the universe had to be what he called a Prime Mover or an Unmoved Mover. If everything is the result of secondary causes, nothing would ever actually happen. Some great power had to be a primary cause of life, motion, energy, and existence.

If you walk into an office and you see one of those toys with the steel balls swinging left to right, right to left, virtually endlessly, the one thing you will know for an absolute certainty is that some force outside that toy had to start the whole thing by lifting the first ball and releasing it to clack against the others. The process you observe could not possibly have started all by itself.

Creation Science and Intelligent Design theory offers a Prime Mover, evolution does not.

MySweetLordJesus, aka VenomFangX #fundie youtube.com

[His video: "A simple way to prove the existence of God"]

If I promised to give you a chocolate bar after an infinite amount of time, would I ever give you the chocolate bar? No. Because we would never reach the moment when we could say "Okay, an infinite amount of time has passed, pay up the chocolate bar".

Next question: Could there have been an infinite amount of time before now? No, otherwise we would have never reached this moment in time. So we can conclude that time started a finite amount of time ago, [...] and before that there was no time.
Scientists say matter can't be created or destroyed. [...] So the question is: has matter always existed? And I'd say no, it hasn't, because we've already determined time didn't always exist, but you can't have matter without space and time. If you have matter, where do you put it -space- and when do you put it -time-?

So here's the problem: we know there wasn't always time, and thus we HAVE to conclude there wasn't always matter. [...] So we don't know what created matter, time, and space, fair enough. But what we do know about whatever it is that we don't know, is that it's immensely powerful, I mean there's lots of energy in this world and it had to come from whatever created it, so, immensely powerful, and extremely intelligent, because we can look around and see it created enough stuff to sustain life, create all the elements we need to go about our daily functions, breathe and eat, and all that amazing awesome stuff, so we can conclude it's awesomely powerful, incredibly intelligent, and suddenly the picture starts to, you know what I'm saying?

Ah, yeah. There's no way to argue this. There's nowhere else to go. I got you cornered. You can comment on this and say "Ah you're a fool, I don't believe in God", but, you know, you might have to change your beliefs a bit. Some people don't wanna believe in God cause that makes them accountable to their creator, and, they don't want to deal with it.
Check out my other videos to learn what God expects of you, and how to restore a relationship with him, I'd be happy to take you through it.

"Kids Answers" section #fundie answersingenesis.org

A Feathered Dinosaur?

A common idea among those who believe molecules-to-man evolution is that dinosaurs have turned into birds over millions of years. But, from the Bible (Genesis 1), we know that God created all things about 6,000 years ago—birds on Day 5 of the first week, dinosaurs (land animals) on Day 6.

So what about the “feathered dinosaurs”? Do they prove that dinosaurs changed into birds? For example, some scientists have recently found bumps on the forearm of a velociraptor. They suggest that the bumps were where feathers attached to the bone.

Although no actual feathers were found with the velociraptor fossil (or any other dinosaur fossil, for that matter), it may be that some dinosaurs had feathers. But this group of animals would merely be a kind of feathered reptile—descendants of the animals that God created in the beginning. Feathers on reptiles have nothing to do with proving that one kind of animal changed into another kind. They just show the creativity and diversity of our wonderful Creator God!

Medeea Greere #crackpot #wingnut #fundie #conspiracy amg-news.com

In this article, we talk about the connection of the Rockefeller family dynasty to CERN. CERN is preparing for a major announcement, that they have discovered something inside the collisions happening at the large hadron collider (LHC). I have warned extensively about CERN and believe that the Illuminati is celebrating the opening of the fifth dimension, one beyond space and time. CERN also invented the internet, a matrix system that now covers the Earth. The internet has now taken over everything about life.
Everything is “wired.” The last thing that isn’t wired is the human body. Implantable devices are necessary to accomplish the wiring of the human body to the WWW. That is why mandatory chipping will come to pass, because every human must become a literal part of the WWW, which is the 666.
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The Rockefellers also send their own scientists to CERN to conduct experiments. These particle physicists are from Rockefeller University and are some of the top scientists in the world in their respective fields. They have been instrumental in discovering new particles at CERN.

Did CERN Create Black Hole Inside Earth? City Swallowed, Millions Sinkholes Opened, Ocean Level Drops. CERN is opening portals into other dimensions, possibly even hell. Everything you are about to see is real.

CERN is attacking this planet by trying to bring in to reality the existence of Demons and possibly even the Devil (Satan) himself? Smashing particles at the speed of light (or near) is in my theory attacking God himself and as we know, without light there would be no life, Earth or the Moon possibly?
The LHC facility on the Franco/Swiss border is changing weather patterns and even possibly attracting meteors with the huge magnetic force it put’s out? CERN has many backers and many objectors but the most important is CERN itself, only “it” can address the worries of everyday people and they choose not too, why?

Zerozx #fundie rr-bb.com

My dad was talking about how somewhere in Arizona and places near it, there were petrified wood deposits that were up to 400 foot deep... he said "I wonder what kind of catastrophe could have caused that?" I said "Maybe it was the flood from the Bible." and then, my dad replied "When did that happen? Wasn't it two thousand years or so ago? Those deposits are millions of years old" I don't know...that's just something that bothers me. Scientists that study the Earth and things in it, they say things are millions of years old and then they "prove" that it is with carbon dating,...or whatever else they may use to study the age of the Earth and the things on it.

Now, honestly; I believe in a young earth...I know my dad believes in God, but obviously he doesn't take certain parts of the Bible as literal truth. Even if the Earth is millions of years old...that doesn't disprove God. It's just something that I think about...how would you explain petrified wood?
Sorry if my post is broad and I may have rambled a bit...

Thanks for reading...
God Bless.

nagius #fundie ubuntuforums.org

["How on earth is belief in God the default? Infants don't have a belief in God until they're taught to believe in God by their parents or someone else. Would you say that belief in pagan woodland spirits is the "default" as well?"]

Who told the parents and some else?


Infants don't know any better, and even if no one tells them they will come (later in life) to the conclusion that there is a creator if they search deep in reality.

Don't you see that most humanity has come the logical conclusion without God say anything.

You are the one in a fantasy world were there is no proof of no creator, if there is no creator there is no beginning in time.


Scientist and many philosophers agree time is finite and there was a beginning in time, meaning that after all there is a creator. Someone higher that ourselves, and this is just I of the reasons to believe. Why is there any doubt because you have not seen God? Of course you have because you are alive!!


You can also be taught not to believe. Is the world round ? sure it is. have you seen it? no. only in pictures.

^KrazyMatty^ #conspiracy godlikeproductions.com

The fact that a reptilian race of beings has interfered with human society since the beginning of modern history (modern meaning past 6,000 years), and probably far beyond that, is also extremely evidenced (every major culture on Earth speaks of them, from the Sarpa who, according to Hindu history, founded Earth-human civilisation, to the Uktena of the Cherokee, to the Sheti of the Hopi, to the Riu and Long of Japan annd China, etc.)

The Iguana-People (Itzamna) of the Mayans, the Dragons (Long) of China and Japan (Riu), the Naga and Sarpa of India, the Anunnaki (a Reptilian race, but not the Draco) and Dragon-Gods (Draco Reptilians) of Sumeria and Babylon, the Chitahuri and Imanugela of Africa, the Serpent-People of the Zuni, Hopi, Anasazi and Blood Indians (among many others), the Uktena and Tlanuhwa of the Cherokee, the Dragons of Europe, etc.

The original royal families of Europe claimed descendence from Dragons. Ambrosius (Merlin) was actually Natanleod, a British king who was said to shapeshift into a dragon. Charlemagne was called "Le Chameleon", because of his combined Hebrew and ´Dragon´ descent, and his reputed ability to shapeshift into a ´demon´ or ´dracula´ (dragon-devil). The later Emperors of Rome used dragon-symbolism and were said to shapeshift into ´Dracul´ (dragon-demons), especially the Byzantine Emperors.

The early European peoples said that humans were made when a humanoid race (sometimes referred to as ´Elves´ or ´Alfheim´) was combined with the race of Dragons (Dracula in Latin), and this hybridisation of a humanoid race with dragons to create the Adam is a recurring theme in worldwide mythology. In India, the Naga were depicted symbolically as having the heads or upper bodies of humans and the bodies of serpents. The sages of the time often referred to this as meaning ´Above is the human, Below is the dragon (Sarpa)´, and a ´mingling of seeds´. This symbolically seems to refer to a reptilian DNA base with human DNA implanted. This is exactly what the human genome looks like, with reptilian DNA ´below´ and human DNA ´above´.

And of course the Reptilians are not the only alien race to have interacted with this planet.

In Egypt they speak extensively of the ´Gods´ who brought them knowledge from the stars, and of the Lion-People who came with them (The Kilroti). They speak of them as emanating from Sirius, the Dog-Star, which in Egypt was called Isis, named for their symbolic Mother Goddess.

In Africa, the Zulu shamans bear extensive esoteric knowledge of a race of reptilians who they say control the Earth--called the Chitahuri.

In Sumeria ten thousand tablets have been found and translated which refer to an alien race which created a race of humans to work as slaves in their mines in Africa (the exact same story appears in Africa, and there are goldmines in Africa estimated by the Anglo-American company to be over 60,000 years old).

In China and Japan underground bases where the Dragon Kings live are referred to, as well as the lineage of humans from a race of ´Dragons´. (there are also many other reptilian races referred to, such as the Kappa).

In Australia the aborigines speak of a reptilian race which lives underneath the Earth and secretly governs over men. The Aboriginal chiefs have spoken of going into the Earth where these beings resided. There they claim there is extensive technology. The Aborigines say that they are descended from a race of dragon-humans that once lived on an enormous continent that spanned the entire Pacific ocean, and that most of it sank beneath the waves in ancient times, but that Australia is a remnant of it, and this is why there are so many reptilian animals there.

In China, Japan, India, Europe, South America, North America, Australia, etc. the exact same description of a 7-level reptilian hierarchy recurs.

The highest Dragons are always said to be winged, and often this is divided into two castes, one being the Bird-Dragons and one being the Winged-Dragons (this is the case in Asia).

Beneath them are Dragons with horns but no wings.

Beneath them are the Dragons with no horns, but which are considered ´true dragons´.

Beneath them are the Dragon Children or ´Watersnakes´, a race of beings often described as lizard-like humanoids, but often symbolically depicted as watersnakes, giant serpents, etc.

The hierarchy in all 7 levels is usually as follows:

1) White, Winged Dragons (sometimes with feathers, and often with icy blue eyes) (usually with horns)
2) Winged Dragons (large, but featherless and non-white) (with horns)
3) Winged Dragons (usually with horns)
4) Horned Dragons
5) True Dragons
6) Warrior Dragons (expendable caste of warriors. usually described as largest caste population-wise, as Dragons are said to be a very belligerent race).
7) Lizard-Dragons (the Untouchables. Weak, small, skinny lizard-like Dragons)

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THE DRACO CASTE SYSTEM

In actuality, the Draco Caste System is as follows:

1) White, Winged Draco (Royalty)
2) Statesmen and Politicians
3) Religious Caste (Priests, Ritual Performers, etc.)
4) Warriors (pictured above)
5) Teachers
6) Workers
7) Drones (Lizard-like Reptilians under total mind-control who perform routine work such as abductions)

The Draco

The Illuminati, which includes 13 major Royal-descended families from Europe, were created by the Draco Reptilians.

The Royal family are not ´reptiles´, persay, but they do have more Reptilian DNA than most Earth-humans.

All humans on Earth have Draco and humanoid (Lyrian) DNA, but with a smaller percentage of Draco Reptilian than human. However, the Illuminati, created by the Draco, have a 50/50 split between human and Reptilian DNA, giving them the ability to shapeshift between the two forms as a result of many factors, including the incompatibility of human and Reptilian DNA. Mammals and Reptiles are not native to Earth. They originated on separate planets.

Only a small percentage of the Illuminati are shapeshifters, such as Queen Elizabeth II, Prince Philip (Duke of Edinburgh), Baron Guy de Rothschild, George H.W. Bush, David Rockefeller, etc. The rest are mostly people with a somewhat higher percentage of Reptilian DNA than usual which have been recruited by the Illuminati as a result of bloodline, lack of morals, what have you--everything the mafia would look for. Mafias in general are a Draco type of cultural creation, and most of the major ones are controlled by the Illuminati. Most intelligence agencies are as well, including the CIA, KGB ("FSB"), Mossad, etc.

In reality, there is not much truth to the idea of independent government in Europe or America anymore. These governments were always mafia/Illuminati controlled, but now it is far more centralised than before. Once, we had Hapsburg Illuminati infighting with Rothschild Illuminati. Now there is far more cooperation among the Illuminati because they know that the NWO is growing near.

The European Union is not as wonderful a thing as some uninformed people think it is. The United Nations is actually a very maniacal organisation geared at creating global government with totalitarian control. In working toward this ´dream´ of theirs, they have, among other things, distributed the AIDS virus to Africans as a means of depopulating the Black race, conquered over 90% of United States land through illegal action, murdered a team of their own scientists who were headed for a conference in Geneva regarding the AIDS virus/genocide affair, and had Kurt Waldheim, former Nazi SS soldier, as its Secretary General.

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In terms of the Draco, they are a Reptilian race originating in the Draco star system. They were the first colonists of the planet Earth. Earth was originally a totally marine environment, with shallow marshes and seas being the closest thing to land. The Draco then decided to make it part of their strategy to use this solar system as an entry point into the rest of the galaxy--a strategic place for a military base.

Therefore, they terra-formed Earth, creating a very large continent in what is now the Pacific, commonly known as Lemuria. This Reptilian civilisation developed quite a bit until the Atlans, a human group, invaded the Earth and created their own continent, which is now known as Atlantis. There is a lot of history to this, but eventually the two groups came to a treaty (after the destruction of both of their continents), and modern Earth-humans were created as a hybrid species between them, with the DNA of other alien groups and certain animals as well.

At the moment, the Draco have quite a grip on about 90% of this planet, even controlling most aspects of Earth-human civilisation through complete domination of all major intelligence agencies, governments and mafias.

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You will notice that an Amazonian shaman who is aware of Oneness and aware of his/her connection with the Earth would probably never go along with the New World Order, whereas a blonde-haired mall-going American is extremely likely to accept such a thing, both because of genetics and cultural upbringing.


It is possible because the Reptilians do exist, and are the most populous alien race inhabiting this planet at the moment. In their eyes, they own the Earth, as they were the first high-tech civilisation to colonise it circa 1 million years ago.

This is why reptiles and dinosaurs show up in the earlier paleontological record. Birds are a warm-blooded species that adapted to the mammalian energies of the Atlantean humanoids (Lyraens), who came later (circa 400,000 years ago).

Mainstream science´s view of paleontology is incorrect. Dinosaur footprints have been found with human footprints nearby, or even inside of them. Clearly the two species coincided.

Dinosaurs actually evolved on the Draco homeworld, and are the cattle and wild animals of the Draco, along with most reptiles (some were also brought by the Abbennakki). Mammals also originate off-world--mostly from the constellation Lyrae before civilisation there was destroyed during the Draco invasion, after which the Lyraens were forced to escape to the Pleiades, Arcturus, Aldebaran, Earth, etc.

Yes, the Reptilians have set in motion the Illuminati mafias as a means of manipulating this planet. An accurate source of information on the matter would be Stewart Swerdlow www.stewartswerdlow.com

Though I do not necessarily agree with everything that he says, for the most part he is an excellent source of information. I can confirm much of this from personal experience.

Princess Diana as a New World Religious Figure

Princess Diana was ritually sacrificed. Her programming was starting to break down, as was expected and planned.

She stopped hiding what she knew about the Reptilians, and yes, contacted Credo Mutwa as well as her psychic healer, "Christine Fitzgerald", who has since been threatened for revealing this information.

After her ritual sacrifice, she has become a religious icon of the New Age. This is all leading up to her future status as a saint of the New World Religion. This is really an excuse to bring back worship of the Goddess Diana.

Similarly, Ronald Reagan was ritually sacrificed, and his funeral service signified the death of America as we know it, heralding in the New World Order.

America will soon crumble economically and politically. The United Nations wil be called into "Restore Order". The United States will then be divided into two districts, Eastern and Western. The Eastern district will be Atlanta. The Western District will be Denver.

This is all planned to occur some time within the next 15 or so years--perhaps sooner. All depends upon what the Illuminati see as the appropriate times to initiate such events.

Christian Ryan #fundie animaladventures1314.blogspot.com

Rerun Article: Did Dinosaurs REALLY Evolve Into Birds?
I hope everyone had a terrific Harvest Day! As you might recall, last year I took part in the Nanowrimo (National Novel Writing Month) challenge, which requires me to write a 50,000-word novel during the month of November. I am doing this challenge again this year, so I will be posting quite a few rerun articles this month. Don't worry though, I'll pick articles from a little ways back.

Anyway, Thanksgiving will soon be upon us? Do you have any Thanksgiving traditions? If so, leave them in a comment below.

Days till:
It is: 16 days till The Good Dinosaur's theatrical release
It is: 17 days till Thanksgiving
It is: 45 days till Christmas

In the Spotlight:
Again, nothing of note to share this week.

Topic of the Week by Christian Ryan

Did dinosaurs really evolve into birds? What does the fossil record actually reveal?
Every Thanksgiving, people all over the United States cook and serve the American turkey. Despite not being part of the first Thanksgiving, the turkey is a symbol for this holiday. But for many Americans, they aren't merely eating a bird – they're actually eating a dinosaur! Evolutionists believe that all birds, including the turkey, descended from small, feathered theropod dinosaurs; to be more accurate, they actually believe that birds are dinosaurs. Such a claim, if true, would be a major problem for creationists. How should a creationist respond to such this idea? What's the truth behind this belief?

Is this delicious Thanksgiving entree the descendant of dinosaurs?
The idea that reptiles evolved into birds isn't new. Not long after renowned naturalist Charles Darwin published his book in 1859 called On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favored Races in the Struggle for Life . . . it's easy to see why most people just call it The Origin of Species. In 1860, a feather was discovered fossilized in Germany and the species of which the feather belonged to was called Archaeopteryx. In 1863, Sir Richard Owen (the inventor of the name “dinosaur” and a creationist) described an entire skeleton of the creature; the fossils revealed a relatively small creature, with feathered and clawed wings, teeth and a long bony tail. In 1869, biologist Thomas Henry Huxley, often considered “Darwin's Bulldog” declared the animal as the missing link between reptiles – specifically dinosaurs – and birds. Ever since, most evolutionary scientists cling to the idea that theropod dinosaurs evolved into birds.

The similarities between dinosaurs like Compsognathus and birds led Huxley to believe that dinosaurs evolved into birds.
Before we go any farther, we must understand both perspectives of the origin of birds: the creation perspective and the evolutionary perspective. Let's look at them both now. Most evolutionists believe that sometime between the early to late Jurassic Period, about 201-145 million years ago, the scales of small theropod dinosaurs began evolving into fur-like proto-feathers for warmth. After millions of years of evolution, these proto-feathers evolved to be firmer and longer; dinosaurs began using their longer feathers for display purposes, perhaps to attract mates. Evolutionists are unsure as to how the power of flight came about. Some evolutionists believe these feathered dinosaurs were tree-climbers and began using their feathered limbs to glide through the trees; others believe they developed the power of flight from the ground up, using their proto-wings to increase their leaps into the air, perhaps after prey. Either way, these dinosaurs eventually were able to get airborne and were now technically birds.

An early conception of "proto-birds" from 1916.
What does the Bible say about the evolution of birds? Well, it says God created all the flying creatures on the Fifth day of the Creation week, 6,000 years ago, the day before He created dinosaurs.
“And God created...every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good...And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.” Genesis 1:21-23.
This is a major contradiction to the evolution story, which states that dinosaurs came about before birds. Meanwhile the Bible states that land animals – dinosaurs included – came after birds! And instead of evolving through the processes of natural selection and mutation like evolution teaches, birds appeared on earth fully-formed and ready for action.

Evolutionists commonly point to Archaeopteryx as being a transitional form between dinosaurs and birds.
Many evolutionists (specifically atheists) believe that there is too much evidence for evolution for creation to be true. I find it rather interesting how many evolutionists refuse to even consider creation an option; in fact, many will go as far as to say that creationists don't know science. I was browsing the internet and came across an article entitled Feathered Dinosaurs Drive Creationists Crazy by Brian Switek. “Oh, really?” I thought upon seeing this article; I was rather unimpressed by this evolutionist's attempt to denounce creationists. Curious, I read the article, expecting to find much criticism aimed at creationists. Much of the article was devoted to how our view of dinosaurs has changed over the years, but perhaps a quarter into the material, he talked about creationists and the “overwhelming evidence” that dinosaurs evolved into birds, in addition to his other criticisms about dinosaurs living with humans and dinosaurs living 6,000 years ago etc. He also spent a great deal of time talking about Answers in Genesis CEO Ken Ham and the Creation Museum. Here's an excerpt below:
“...dinosaurs with feathers are not welcome at Ham's amusement park [speaking of the Creation Museum]. Even though paleontologists have uncovered numerous dinosaurs with everything from bristles and fuzz to full-flight feathers—which document the evolution of plumage from fluff to aerodynamic structures that allowed dinosaurs to take to the air—creationists deny the clear fossil record.”
He had much more to say of course, some of which I'll get to in a minute. I must say that while reading the article, I was troubled how many misconceptions Switek has about creationism. What really ticks me off is when evolutionists try to make a case for themselves without actually doing the research. I find Switek's ignorance of what we creationists believe appalling. If only he continued to research and find answers to why creationists don't believe dinosaurs evolved into birds, then perhaps he would not have been so bold in his statements. Like any other fossils in the fossil record, even though the observable evidence – dinosaur and bird fossils – can point to or suggest a certain conclusion, they do not speak for themselves and are left to the interpretation of the individual based upon observable evidence. Evolutionists like to claim that creationists start from a presupposition and use that to base their opinions on, while they base their opinions on scientific facts. Now, it is true that we have presumptions, but so do evolutionists! They fail to realize is that they do the exact same thing. In this article, I plan to talk about the evidence for and against the dino-to-bird hypothesis and see what the evidence best suggests.

So what is the “evidence” for this belief in dinosaurs evolving into birds? Switek claims there is a “mountain of evidence that birds are living dinosaurs” and that we creationists deny the clear fossil record. Let's at the so-called evidence now and see whether we're the ones rejecting the clear fossil record. Before we go on though, let me explain that evolutionists do not believe all dinosaurs evolved into birds; they believe the ancestors of birds are maniraptorans, small theropod (meat-eating) dinosaurs. Some of these dinosaurs include Deinonychus, Troodon and the famous Velociraptor.

Dromaeosaurs, such as this Velociraptor, are commonly seen as relatives of modern birds.

Bird-hipped and Lizard-hipped Dinosaurs
Evolutionists are quick to mention that maniraptorans are very similar to modern birds anatomically. This is true. In fact there are over 100 skeletal features that dinosaurs share with birds; some dinosaurs such as Velociraptor even had a wishbone. But what is often not mentioned are the often quite significant differences between the two. Within the order Dinosauria there are two subcategories in which dinosaurs are divided, saurischians (lizard-hipped dinosaurs) and ornithiscians (bird-hipped dinosaurs). The dinosaurs in these two categories are divided based upon their hip shape. The difference between the two hip shapes is the pubis bone; the pubis bone in birds and bird-hipped dinosaurs points toward the rear instead of to the front as in lizard-hipped dinosaurs, modern reptiles and mammals.

Saurischian or lizard-like hip structure.

Ornithischian or bird-like hip structure.

Problem with dino-to-bird evolution? All the dinosaurs that evolutionists believe are related to birds (e.g. Velociraptor, Troodon, Sinornithosaurus) are lizard-hipped! Dinosaurs that are bird-hipped include Stegosaurus, Triceratops and Parasaurolophus. These dinosaurs bear very few bird-like features and are not believed to have evolved into birds. Yet the few times this is ever mentioned in secular literature, documentaries and etc. this problem is never presented any emphasis. And why would they?

The lumbering 4-ton Stegosaurus is a bird-hipped dinosaur, meaning it must have evolved into birds! Right? Of course not!

Three-Fingered Hands

The hand bones of Dienonychus (left) and Archaeopteryx (right) are quite similar.
Evolutionists absolutely love to talk about how both theropods and birds have three-fingered hand bones. Evidence of a dino-bird relationship? Hardly. As birds supposedly evolved from theropods, you'd expect that the digits represented in the hand bones would be the same in both dinosaurs and birds. However, dinosaurs have the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd digits (the first being the thumb); birds have the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th digits in their hand. What happened?

Avian vs. Reptilian Lungs

The dinosaur Sinosauropteryx was so well preserved, that the reptilian-like lungs have also been fossilized.
If theropods are the ancestors of birds, you should find avian-like lungs in theropods. Of course, as most dinosaur remains are fossil bones, we can't know too much about their lungs and respiratory system. However, paleontologists have discovered the fossilized remains of a Sinosauropteryx, a small bird-like theropod from China, related to Compsognathus. This Sinosauropteryx specimen retains the outline of the visceral cavity, and it is very well preserved. Much to the dismay of evolutionists, they reveal that the lung is very much like that of a crocodile.

In Switek's article, he mentions how the Creation Museum didn't display feathered dinosaurs, nor does Answers in Genesis portray dinosaurs with feathers in books and DVD's. And he's right. But what if there's actually a scientifically good reason for this? Of course, failing to do his research to see why creationists don't portray feathered dinosaurs, he just scoffs and claims that “they take pride in promoting out-of-date, monstrous dinosaurs that more easily fit their contention that these animals were created separately from all other forms of life.” I'm very sorry Switek, but maybe you are the one who's trying to go against the fossil evidence. Like just about every other evolutionist out there, he claims that creationists just believe in non-feathered dinosaurs because we believe they didn't evolve into birds and then points to so-called “feathered” dinosaurs; no further explanation is given. He would have only had to read a few articles on the Answers in Genesis website to find their true opinion, which I will get to in a minute.

Is there actually evidence to support the belief that dinosaurs, like this Troodon, had feathers?
There are two types of “feathered dinosaurs” you'll hear about: dinosaurs with bird-like flight feathers and dinosaurs with proto-feathers. First let's look at the dinosaurs with “proto-feathers”. In 1996, evolutionists thought they found the amazing proof for their theory upon the discovery of Sinosauropteryx. This small carnivorous dinosaur is associated with the outline of what many believe to be fur-like proto-feathers. But upon looking at the “proto-feathers” closely, you can see that they really aren't that feather-like. They are much more similar to hair in appearence. In fact, it seems to some creationists that seems that these features are actually connective tissue fibers (collagen); this is found in the deeper dermal layers of the skin. These features have been found not only on other dinosaurs, but also ichthyosaurs, dolphin-like marine reptiles! Yet no one suggests these creatures were feathered. Another thing about the "fluffy-looking" structures that creation scientists have noticed is that many of these structures appear almost fur-like. Perhaps some of these dinosaurs were covered in something similar to pcynofibers, fur-like structures found on pterosaurs that are very similar to mammalian hair.

Dinosaurs like Sinosauropteryx might have been covered in a type of "fur".
In this article, Switek mentions this fossil discovery:
“Put feathers on a Velociraptor—we know it had feathers thanks to quill knobs preserved along its arm bones—and you get something disturbingly birdlike, revealing the dinosaur's kinship to the ancestors of Archaeopteryx and other early birds.”
In 2007, scientists published the find of a fossil arm bone of a Velociraptor. Along the forearm are six bumps that they claimed were very similar to those found on the bones of some modern birds. In modern birds the bumps are the quill knobs where feathers were once supposedly rooted. Is this proof of a feathered dinosaur? Perhaps, but sources that talk about this find give no details as to why the quill knobs don't extend further along this bone or if there were other fossils were also examined or how complete the find was. Who's to say this is even the arm bone of a Velociraptor? There are many uncertainties with this fossil. Keep in mind that I'm not doubting the validity of the scientists who studied the fossil, but we should also remember that we should be cautious about such claims based on scant evidence and the claims made by scientists with evolutionary presuppositions.

No feathers seem to have been present on Velociraptor, but pcynofiber-like fuzz is still a possibility.
What about “dinosaurs” that actually have fully-functional actual feathers? Archaeopteryx and Microraptor are two such creatures. Both of these animals bear toothy snouts, clawed and feathery wings and bony tails. They also both have a pair of enlarged retractable toe claws like those of raptor dinosaurs, such as Deinonychus and Velociraptor. Surely this is proof that these animals are the missing links between dinosaurs and birds.

Microraptor is a very unique creature with four fully-functional feathered wings.
First of all the feathers on the bodies of Archaeopteryx and Microraptor are actual feathers and not collagen fibers or fur-like structures. They also have the same digits configuration of modern birds (like modern birds they bear the 2nd, 3rd and 4th digits). Undoubtedly, these animals are birds. The fact that they have reptilian features does not make them half reptile/half bird. In fact, there are several actual birds that have reptilian features: ostriches and baby hoatzins also have clawed wings, and no one questions that these animals are birds; the extinct bird Hesperornis possesses teeth in its beak; and the seriema of today even has an enlarged second toe claw, similar to the ones seen in raptors. If you don't need a missing link between dinosaurs and birds (which creationists don't) then there's no need to call Microraptor and Archaeopteryx anything other than 100% birds.

The seriema is a medium-sized bird living today with an enlarged toe claw, similar to the ones found on dromaeosaurs.
If you look in dinosaur books, you've likely seen diagrams similar to the one below:

This is a typical chart showing the evolution of dinosaurs to birds.
This picture suggests that the fossil record wonderfully displays the evolution from dinosaurs to birds; with more dinosaur-like creatures in lower geologic rock layers and more bird-like creatures in higher layers, slowly evolving more complex feathers. Isn't it strange that we creationists reject the plain evidence in the fossil record as Switek states we do?

Unfortunately, this isn't what the fossil record represents at all! Despite this being portrayed in just about every secular dinosaur book, the “clear fossil record” (as Switek puts it) tells a different story. Archaeopteryx, the famed transitional between dinosaurs and birds is believed to have existed 150-148 million years ago, during the Late Jurassic Period. The problem? Most bird-like dinosaurs that are commonly said to be closely related to birds, according to this worldview, lived before Archaeopteryx! Sinosauropteryx, a dinosaur with “proto-feathers” is claimed to have lived 124-122 million years ago! In fact, most dinosaurs with so-called “proto-feathers” are found above rock layers with more bird-like animals! The only dinosaur with "proto-feathers" that evolutionists have that didn't live after Archaeopteryx is Juravenator. But according to evolutionists, Juravenator lived at the same time as Archaeopteryx! In addition to this, we find birds very similar to the ones we see today living with "dino-birds". A Microraptor skeleton described in 2011 was discovered with tree-perching bird fossils (more bird-like than Microraptor) inside of its abdomen! This animal didn't only live with modern-like birds – it ate them! Even Velociraptor, a very bird-like dinosaur, is usually dated to live about 80 million years ago, long after birds has supposedly been flying through the skies for millions of years. These creatures were hardly ancestors to the birds. I for think the fossil record clearly demonstrates that dinosaurs evolved into birds, don't you? (That was sarcastic by the way).

Of course, I am not at all saying we should find all the transitional forms between dinosaurs and birds if this transition really did occur, but we should find a few. Evolution on this scale would take tens of millions of years and millions of generations between dinosaurs and birds. Where are these fossils? Surely some should have popped up if the "clear fossil record" suggests dinosaurs evolved into birds.

And to make matters even worse for evolutionists, extinct birds such as Anchiornis, Xiaotingia, Aurornis and potentially Protoavis are buried in sediment “older” than Archaeopteryx!

So, Switek, you believe the "clear fossil record" portrays dinosaurs evolving into birds? Hm...

Earlier, I mentioned how Switek claimed creationists don't like feathered dinosaurs. What if a feathered dinosaur with actual feathers were discovered? Would this prove that dinosaurs evolved into birds and that the Bible is untrue? Nope! In fact, nothing in the Bible goes against the idea that dinosaurs might have had feathers. Not only that, but I happen to like the look of feathered dinosaurs; I am not against the notion of feathered dinosaurs in the slightest, just the idea that they evolved into birds. Finding a feathered dinosaur would be no different than finding a mammal that lays eggs. which we actually have! The duck-billed platypus and porcupine-like echidna are monotreme mammals that lay eggs instead of giving birth to live young like all other mammals. Yet they aren't half mammals/half reptiles; they're mammals that lay eggs. We creationists aren't against the idea of feathered dinosaurs at all, it's just that so far, the evidence for feathered dinosaurs is missing in action.

Like Microraptor, the platypus bears characteristics of many different creatures, including the ability to lay eggs, a duck-like bill, a beaver-like tail and webbed feet, a mammal's fur, the ability to use a form of sonar and even a venomous spur. Yet it is not some evolutionary missing link, but a mosaic.
In order to prove that dinosaurs evolved into birds, one would need to find evidence of a transition between the two in the fossil record (like reptile scales evolving into feathers) and the fossil record would need to show dinosaurs and birds evolving in the right order. This is not what we find!

Why haven't evolutionists who love to talk badly about creationists bring up the points I made in this article? An even better question is why would they do such a thing? Never in Switek's article does he even mention these problems with the dino-bird theory (or solutions to them)! Like many other evolutionists out there, he decided to pick on the claim made by creationists rather than the evidence that backs up the claim in order to make creationists sound like unprofessional idiots. What he wrote in this article shows just how utterly and willingly ignorant he is of creationism and what we believe to be true (and more importantly why we believe it to be true).

As I hope to have made clear throughout this article, if one looks at the fossil record from an evolutionary perspective, we don't really learn about the origin of birds. It's really sad how little research Switek did on the truth about creationism, Answers in Genesis, dinosaurs, birds and the fossil record as a whole. I doubt hearing the truth would have actually change his mind, but at least he would have been more informed. Until he decides to learn what creationists actually have to say and only talking about evidence from his own side of the argument, he should avoid talking about creationism altogether. (Unlike him, I used information from both sides).

I do however hope that this article has enlightened you, my readers, and helped you understand that the fossil record doesn't support the belief that birds and dinosaurs didn't share the same lineage, but that they do share the same wonderful Creator God.

You can relax, dinosaur lovers! The turkey you'll have for Thanksgiving this year isn't the descendant of this Velociraptor!

Acyutananda #fundie disqus.com

Acyutananda:
I'll reproduce here a comment I made under the recent "Science/Philosophy Distinction" post:
The funny thing is that the scientists who say life doesn't begin at conception don't disagree about science with those who say it does. If they were all to sit around a table and discuss one point in time of human development after another, they would closely agree about the processes going on at each point.
They are disagreeing about nomenclature, about words. It's a semantic debate. If they were to agree to freshly coin all the words they will need for the embryology field, they could probably easily coin some words and assign them the definitions that will be most useful for their scientific purposes, and come to an agreement. But since they persist in using existing words, and existing words, such as "life" and "human," have associations with implications (implications which those scientists understand) for perception and private behavior and public policy, the scientists' nomenclature preferences will be underlain by their different philosophies, and a faction of scientists with one philosophy will want to use different words than a faction of scientists with a different philosophy. The pro-choice side will want us to view the scientific reality (upon which there is no disagreement) through a word filter that will make the pro-choice side look good and feel good, rather than a filter that will make the pro-life side look good and feel good.
Moreover, many existing words, including "life," have multiple meanings that simply invite the unscrupulous to obfuscate. For example:
"The final quote from Robert Wyman (a neurobiologist) makes the most bizarre claim I've ever seen a pro-choice person make. Life doesn't begin at fertilization, they claim, it began billions of years ago. And that is somehow supposed to show that we can't know when an individual human life begins."
I agree that that is what Wyman was trying to show. But to some extent he evades being caught and pinned to the wall, by applying what seems to be intentional obtuseness.
It would matter not at all whether viruses were alive if we didn't reify and virtually fetishize our own categories. A failure to answer that question (are viruses alive?) wouldn't prevent us from acquiring a finely-detailed, even god-like scientific understanding of viruses, if we're otherwise capable of acquiring it.
Just as knowing whether or not an embryo is a person, or a human being, matters not at all, as long as we understand what kind of life it would have if it lives, and understand that if we kill it, we deprive it of that life. Science.

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Acyutananda:
Bessie, I don't mind your lack of interest in the issue I raised. Thanks for at least not exhibiting misunderstanding of the issue.

Brian8888 #conspiracy godlikeproductions.com

WHAT IF THESE POPULAR DEATHS ARE ALL FAKED? Scientists and doctors included...

These people may be heading underground to the bunkers...
Getting ready...
That's my feeling..
It is 2015...not 2000....
Seed vault...
Bunkers..
Jade helm...
Pope
Blood moons...
Hysteria
Debt
Communism
Fukushima
You name it ....we are bleeding...
Asteroid?
Who fucking cares?
FUKISHIMA.... THAT SHOULD HAVE BROKEN YOUR HEART YEARS AGO...

Good doctors are not wasted...
Rich people are not dumb...

Your not needed in the bunker...
Don't be " DUMB"...
Neither am I
These suspicious deaths...aren't even believable...
Just happening...
Normal...
Top of their fields..
Dead at 50----60
Young
Talented...
Valuable

Personally I feel a nuclear event coming on...
Possibly a nuke in Puerto Rico...?
Never know unless I live and they tell the truth on tv/ radio...
I know they want too....
Anyway...
The bunkers are ready and operating...
Maybe it's just their turn...to post-up

You must take into account that the media only slightly tells the truth.
It tells you what you want to hear..
Right?
Just puts a little spin on it...jazzes it up...spice!
There's a whole mess of truth that never makes the media spotlight..
The media shapes your vision
Plain and true...
They are all in on it and they don't even know...
All so eager to "SHOW"...
You know..
Be accepted...a part...welcome..
Tell the tale...
Bigger than life.
My house and my wife?

Black budget?
Secrets?
Really?
Where have you been?
Well I've been here and I've been there and ive been in between ...
Agenda 21?
Depopulation?
Georgia guidestones....Druids ?
Satanists?
Bohemian grove?.
Atlas shrugged?
NWO..?
They will attempt to hide beneath the rocks...
It has been foretold....
Hasn't it ?

[...]

They are going to force the apocalypse ....
With nukes...


An EMP
that would kill our electrical grid...
Globally we would lose the ability to maintain our nuclear stations...
They would all meltdown..
America has at least 75 of them....
75 FUKISHIMAS.....

That's why they call it power...
It holds our lives in balance
Life or death...
Nuclear power=death

[...]

Underground cities have been around for a long time now...
The " FLOOD" taught humanity much humility...
And defiance ...

How many scientists and astronomers killed before their prime?

adrian w #fundie answers.yahoo.com

scientist actually calculated from facts that there is a 69.7564^256th power percent possibility that God exists. these were atheist scientists too. they were trying to prove that God does not exist. so if they come up with the opposite result for trying to disprove God, those that try to prove it will get better results.

the whole thing about faith is this, "Seeing is not believing, believing is seeing."
this means that we would not believe just because we can see, we believe because we cannot see. you cannot see light, wind, gravity, or a magnetic field. yet you can see the effects of them. this is the same with God. you do not need to see God to know that he is there, you merely need to see the effects of his presence.

S. D. Wells #conspiracy naturalnews.com

Top 9 vaccine ingredients you would never eat if found in food, so why allow them to be injected into muscle tissue?

#1. Infected African Green Monkey Kidney Vero Cells

#2. Deadly Porcine (Pig) Virus called Circovirus (in highly experimental Rotavirus jab)

#3. Fetal Cells from Human Abortions

#4. Peanut Oil (the main cause of childhood severe peanut allergies)

#5. Latex (some syringes are poked through latex vial stoppers, hence severe childhood latex allergies)

#6. FD&C Yellow #6 aluminum lake dye (why do we need vaccines to be colorful?)

#7. Squalene (main cause of auto-immune disorder)

#8. Over 50 Parts Per Million of Mercury (still found in certain flu shots)

#9. Genetically Modified DNA from other Humans (foreign proteins cause unnatural immune reactions)

Sounds like some crazy witch’s brew for turning people into mice, doesn’t it? The theory of working vaccines is that you give a human a tiny weakened strain of an infectious disease, their body builds antibodies to fight it, and the next time the same disease is encountered “in the wild,” that human’s immune system is ready to fight, and better prepared. Sounds great. So why then does “modern science” infuse known neurotoxins into vaccines that cause severe allergic reactions, anaphylactic shock, autism, comas and even death?

Shocking Truth: Modern vaccines are not meant to prevent disease, but to cause long-term disorders that earn Big Pharma a fortune
Yes, we know, you want to believe American medicine isn’t so corrupt, but it is. In the 1960s, vaccine manufacturers had no idea what the heck they were doing at all. Merck scientist Dr. Maurice Hilleman admitted on tape that vaccines were spreading disease instead of preventing it. The polio vaccine contained SV40 cancer virus. Other vaccines were being produced using brain tissue from human abortions. Cell cultures from aborted fetuses are STILL used in today’s vaccines, including WI-38 and MRC-5. If you don’t believe it, check the CDC’s own vaccine ingredient web pages right here.

The polio vaccine is a complete hoax and is based on a complete misrepresentation of historical data, that duped over a hundred million Americans. How? The infamous Dr. Jonas Salk (fake hero), removed the kidneys of rhesus monkeys, cut them into tiny pieces, placed them in vials with a nutrient solution and three strains of polio, and then literally rocked the bottles (like a newborn baby) using a mechanical machine. This “incubator” stimulated growth of the virus. The formula was then diluted and weakened with formaldehyde (they call it attenuated today), chilled, and shipped to laboratories around the world. Voila! The amazing useless polio vaccine was invented and the hoax was sold to the world by the CDC.

Guess what? Today, the crooks and freaks at the CDC and Merck use infected African Green monkey kidney cells in the smallpox vaccine. Are you still in denial? Check this FDA page of “vaccines, blood, and biologics” and you’ll find the truth about African Green monkey kidney cells being injected into humans for the sake of “immunity.”

Now check out this video, censored by Facebook, that’s now available at this REAL.video link, featuring Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. of the World Mercury Project, warning America about the epidemic of vaccine-induced degenerative disease.

If the science of vaccines was legitimate, then the mass media would let the science speak for itself. Learn the risks for yourself. The pro-vaccine cult is “anti-science” themselves, knowing the truth about the toxins in vaccines would change millions of minds about what they call “modern medicine.” There are immunization alternatives. Check NaturalPedia.com for more solutions.

Pastor Winthrop III #fundie answers.yahoo.com

Why are some people so gullible as to believe the Evolution Theory?

I wish people would actually investigate the facts and not let certain "scientists" influence their vulnernable and weak-willed minds.

I have corresponded with most of the evolutionary scientists out there: Lenksi, Felsenstein, Charlesworth, Wood, Crow, Ewens etc....and I was surprised at how little evidence they could bring forth in support of the Theory. Ewens even admitted that the fundamental theorem of natural selection ( as proposed by Ronald Fisher) does NOT relate to evolution.

When you examine the fossil record and the dearth of transitional fossils, the sudden explosion of new species in a short timeframe, the lack of genomic evidence ( did you know the mouse has more genes than a human) , the fact that symbiosis is far more prevalent in Nature than competition and selection, you begin to realize just how much the modern synthesis stinks.

Lord Thomas Drake #fundie forums.cybernations.net

[In a thread labeled "What you need to know about creation"]
1. Population statistics—If man appeared over one million years ago, the present world population would be thousands of times greater than it actually is. In fact, our entire galaxy could not provide the needed space for so many. The present world population is around 6 billion. Assuming the average life span to be 70 years and the average generation length to be 35 years, then starting with one family, the present world population would result in about 30 doublings. These doublings would carry us back in history from today to around 3500 B.C. This date is suggested by several creationist scientists to mark the time of the flood. Thus, the creation model dovetails beautifully with known world population statistics. But what of the evolutionary model? Dr. Henry Morris writes, “Now, if the first man appeared one million years ago, and these very conservative growth rates applied during that period, the world population would be at present 10 (27,000 zeros following) people. However, no more than 10 (with 100 zeros) people could be crammed into the known universe.”

(Scientific Creationism, Master Books, 1974, p. 154)

4Given #fundie disqus.com

"If we evolved from apes, then why are there still apes?"
I hope you know this is a line that is used to ridicule people who do not understand evolution.

It would serve you better to study Irreducible Complexity instead of Evolutionary Theory because it basically disproves Evolutionary Theory.

This is what a simple search on irreducible complexity turns up on Google:

Irreducible complexity (IC) is a
pseudoscientific argument that certain biological systems cannot evolve
by successive small modifications to pre-existing functional systems
through natural selection.

That's interesting because "pseudoscientific" would be a term that more properly fits a theory written by a man such as Darwin, who wasn't even a scientist.

David J. Stewart #fundie jesus-is-savior.com

In the 1995 blockbuster movie INDEPENDENCE DAY, the U.S. President (played by Bill Pullman) is laying in bed alone with his 6-year old daughter. He answers the phone to talk to his wife . . .

INT. WHITMORE BEDROOM - SAME

Whitmore sits up.

WHITMORE
I have a confession to make.
There's a beautiful young blonde
sleeping next to me.

Sleeping next to him, his six-year-old daughter, PATRICIA.

Although seemingly harmless to some people, the movie clearly plants the THOUGHT of pedophilia into the viewer's mind. American's have been TRAINED by all of the sexually suggestive television to think dirty. The comment made by the father to the mother on the phone is of a sexual nature... “I have a confession to make,” and then he makes reference to a “beautiful blonde.” This is the sex-sicko Hollywood culture. Such child molesting suggestiveness is EPIDEMIC in Hollywood movies!!! What kind of sexually degenerate Hollywood piece of trash would joke about a father and child having sex? THAT'S HOLLYWOOD!

Later in the movie, the U.S. President and his staff ask to look at a spacecraft retrieved in the 1950's. While looking at the spacecraft the lead scientist says:

She's a beaut' ain't she?

Immediately the camera focuses close-up on the 6-year old girl, Patricia. Again, it's subtle, but continues the pedophile thought planted earlier in the movie. Remember, the movie begins with Patricia in bed with her father, whom he refers to as “a beautiful young blonde sleeping next to me.” Hollywood pedophiles know that TV watching Americans are dirty-minded, because nearly all of the programming nowadays is extremely dirty-minded. You must keep in mind that EVERYTHING which Hollywood records on camera is intention, deliberate and planned. You say, “Boy preacher, you have a dirty mind”... No, I have a man's mind!

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