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wanda_for_decent_values #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

Christians are taking back America!

And we are THROUGH kowtowing to witches, satanists, muslims, atheists, homosexuals and socialist liberals!

America is a Christian nation, not a nation of witches. Satan symbols over my dead body.

By the end of President George W Bush's 2nd term:

1) Iraq will be well on the way to being a peaceful Christian country. Once Iraq has gone Christian, the Gospel of Jesus will spread throughout the Middle East. The region will be at peace and millions of Arab souls will be saved through the grace of Jesus Christ.

2) Bush will have appointed at least three or four USSC Justices and the baby slaughterhouses will finally be closed down forever.

3) Gays will be put back in the closet for good. The sodomy and decency laws will be reinstated and their disgusting disease spreading activities will be outlawed again. Maybe we can’t get rid of them, but we can get them out our children’s view.

4) School vouchers will allow parents to send their kids to decent Christian schools instead of the NEA-infested cesspools that exist now.

5) Worthless liberal social welfare programs will be dismantled and replaced by Christian faith-based government funded programs. People will finally get REAL help through Jesus Christ.

6) Filthy shows like Howard Stern, Will & Grace and Desperate Housewives will be off the air and replaced with decent Christian family programming. Families will once again be able to turn on the radio or television and not be embarrassed to listen or watch together.

7) The abominable scourge of Internet pornography will end with the introduction and ENFORCEMENT of the Online Decency Act. Pornographers who expose the public to this sickening material will be behind bars where they belong.

You can be with us or against us, but you had BETTER believe one thing:

Christians are DONE sitting at the back of the bus.

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patdeeee #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

So what we have are two bulls here. One is satan-led, Godless liberals, who insist on pumping unproven theories down the bodies of children NO matter if the facts are proven wrong. ON the other hand, you have creationists who lack the courage to stand up to the liberals and say what they really feel and believe.

So they deserve their house to fall! (“A house divided against itself, shall not stand!”) God will NEVER bless ANY creationist who hides from truth for NOT saying boldly, “GOD created heaven and earth, and ALL that is in it; and he did this in 6 days; just 6,000 yrs Ago!” And then LET the satan-led, Godless liberals deal with it as they will.

I happen to believe that God created ALL in 6 days, JUST 6,000 yrs ago. I will look ANY teacher; or any professor; or any scientist in the eye; and state my belief to them; whether they like it or not. I am not going to hide God while trying to play their game using contrived words like “creationism” so I can try to sell it to Godless minds on THEIR level.

I will further tell them; that they ARE the quintessential satan-led, Godless liberal; for NOT stating their TRUE agenda also. And then we can agree to disagree; and they can go to hell, and I will enjoy heaven. NOT because of whether evolution is true or not; rather because I put my faith in God, and they put their faith in satan.

SO BE IT! (Amen!)

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ayatollah_koranhater #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

how much more evidence is needed until all the hand-wringing fencesitters finally face facts?

islam is CANCER on planet earth and must be DESTROYED.

islam has done nothing positive for the world in hundreds of years. I think they came up with some mathematical innovations in the 16th century. since then, nothing but death, murder, and mayhem.

ever see Starship Troopers? how different is islam from the space insects? no much.

islam must be DESTROYED before civilization is ruined.

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parisletter2001 #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

the universe was created billions of years ago. Man was created only 6000 years ago. Man did not run with the diasours as the movies portray. Nor did dinasours run with man. God created dinasours so we could burn them in our cars, and planes, and trains. Where do you think our fuel comes from. God knew what he was doing long before he did it. Do you know what you are doing?

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holes_flow #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

ok hold off on the insults and follow with meon this you don't have to agree just listen... Ibelieve the earth is roughly 7000-10,000 yers old...now i believe increation therefore God created the universe with the APPEARANCE of age and not actual age.

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man_of_reason12345 #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

... well, while inbreeding is a problem, it is not that much of a problem if you will assume that Adam and Eve's genes were 'perfect' and all the imperfections and racial diversity were introduced with cosmic radiation and Satan.

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br1373 #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

Oh come on!!! This old bag of dirt [Darwin] has been proven wrong over and over by creationists. But it's all the athiests have to hang on to so they just keep changing their theories and attaching them todarwinism.

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father_thomas_aquinas #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

[<a href="http://news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138539&tid=nmenvironmentbirddc&sid=37138539&mid=409" target="_blank">First post</a>]

Satan didn't place the "fossils" there.

"Scientists" did, in the hope of gaining false-fame.

Unfortunately, it worked for them.


[<a href="http://news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138539&tid=nmenvironmentbirddc&sid=37138539&mid=443" target="_blank">Second post</a>]

"Fossils" are carved from rock, or some are made of plaster.

I have even been told of one case where a skeleton was carved from old soap.

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trueheretic #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

A) Nylon is just a fancy patented recipe for plastic and plastic has been around as long oil has been oozing out of or onto the ground from animals or plants. B) DNA doesn't transmit inheritance information. Nobody knows what DNA does for sure or what the mechanism is for transmitting inheritance information.

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terasec #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

reproduction seems to go against darwins theory of Evo...
if its more of survival, then reproducing and raising young would go against ones drive to survive,
animals are weaker and vunerable while rearing young,
how does darwin explain the strong drive to reproduce?

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roughneck_derrickman #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

['do you honestly believe in a god whose ego is so fragile that without you conducting daily worship of his exsistence he would punish you? What kind of a god is that']

A just God is a God that tells you how to get out of a deadly situation. If he were unjust, he would force you to yield. But, he has given you the roadmap to eternal bliss and lets you decide which road you want to travel.

Free Will? That is a whole lot better than you have it here on this planet.

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sx1207 #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

[Responding to an article title "Scientists say magnet therapy is a waste of time"]

The great scientists of the day do not even believe the human body contains an aura (aka, the soul) so they claim that something beyond their understanding does not work because all of their theories and science does not yet understand how the true universe works. The can only observe and measure the world we live in, and even when they do that the results are questionable.

Magnetic therapy has influence on the aura, the aura has influence on the body. The physical body contains an energy body , magnetic waves are energy, how the two interact can have beneficial and negative effects.

As the world once believed that the world was flat, and the universe revolved around the earth, maybe one day scientists will discover the aura, and how magnetic waves interact with it.

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Iridium190 #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

['and seeing assholes in Kansas bitch about creationism. In the long term we're screwed by these people']

Nonsense. Darwinism is meaningless when it comes to technology and applied science. No physical scientist pays any real attention to evolutionary theory. At it's best it's a model of past events. Like archaeology, its main application is fodder for PBS shows.
Moreover, it carries with it so many logical fallacies that it's destructive when trying to teach rigorous logic and science.

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testingway #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

[When told that there hasn't been a incident of God making an amputee grow back a limb in recorded history]

In all of recorded history? LOL, I guarentee he heals amputees. Don't make statements like that, you can easily find people that this has happened to and talk to them.

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venomous_bird #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

there IS a conspiracy, open your eyes
you think that government and corporations aren't connected?
how much denial do you have?

ever wonder why there is a pyramid with an eye on your money AND on the supreme court of Israel?
and what's up with the washington obelisk monument?

face it, your country and almost the whole world is controlled by the occult of ancient egypt

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ateisuk #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

hate to hating all Christian religions.
This person is another free thinker who is bound by his free thinking to be a CATHOLIC HATER first by grammar history and arrives at being a slave to free thinking. Of course it is always that way with bigots and haters who think they are FREE but WILLED themselves into being another Slavish carbon copy free thinker. A worthless set of words used by CATHOLIC HATERS to think they FREE themslves from CATHOLICS but arrive right where they started; CATHOLIC HATING. And now for the history of that English word SLAVE. AH, SLAVS ARE SLAVES BUT NOT MAD DOG ENGLISHMAN. They are FREE THINKERS united in CATHOLIC HATE who coined the word SLAV to be united forever with those SLAVS who are obviously CATHOLIC. See how deep your hate goes CATHOLIC HATING ENGLISHMAN???

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qomzghtybnm #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

[Apparently describes natural selection without knowing he's describing natural selection]

The frogs did NOT evolve longer legs in response to it's enviroment. The frogs with shorter legs died off because of competition for food or because they were too slow to avoid their predators. This allowed toads with longer legs more chance to breed and populate the area.

Remember the peppered moth! (evilutionists want to forget about it)

I can't believe these LIARS are believing their own lies - or they are intentionally LYING to people in order to spread their fairy tale of evilution.

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maleficus33 #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

The collective materials that scientists refer to as "dinosaurs" or "fossilized remains" or "dinosaur bones", etc... ware the work of the Devil. These are false images placed here to conguse sinful man. the Earth was created 58,000 yes that thousand years ago. It took our great god seven days to do this. Actually only six because he rested on the seventh day. So, no dinosuars, no asteroid, no terra disaster. Just good old Lucifer and weak faithed, confused people.
Just wanted to clear this up and remind you all that it is your Christian duty, as directed by God to vote for GWB on Tuesday [this post was authored on 28-Oct-04]. He is lead and directed - in fact he communicates every day with the one God that did not create dinosaurs!

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seethelightofgod #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

In the Beginning before the Fall, the world was without Sin.

No creature ate another creature.

After the Fall, animals began to eat one another.

One thing the scientists cannot explain is, why do sharks have big, flesh-eating teeth, if they were Designed for a world where animals did not eat each other????

I really don't expect an answer. That one will stump 99.9% of you.

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robaby1984 #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

<a href="http://www.harunyahya.com/evolution_specialpreface.php" target="_blank">http://www.harunyahya.com/evolution_specialpreface.php</a>

Most people think the theory of evolution was first proposed by Charles Darwin, and rests on scientific evidence, observations and experiments. However, the truth is that Darwin was not its originator, and neither does the theory rest on scientific proof. The theory consists of an adaptation to nature of the ancient dogma of materialist philosophy. Although it is not backed up by scientific discoveries, the theory is blindly supported in the name of materialist philosophy.

This fanaticism has resulted in all kinds of disasters. Together with the spread of Darwinism and the materialist philosophy it supports, the answer to the question "What is a human being?" has changed. People who used to answer: "Human beings were created by God and have to live according to the beautiful morality He teaches", have now begun to think that "Man came into being by chance, and is an animal who developed by means of the fight for survival." There is a heavy price to pay for this great deception. Violent ideologies such as racism, fascism and communism, and many other barbaric world views based on conflict have all drawn strength from this deception.

This article will examine the disaster Darwinism has visited on the world and reveal its connection with terrorism, one of the most important global problems of our time.

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l3rainzone #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

For it [radiometric dating] to be science, it must be duplicated in the lab. What we believe to be HISTORY is an act of faith... whether in GOD or in no-god.

I hate when they talk about this crap as though it were true. It's just their "FAITH."

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citizenfitz #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

The energy given off by the Sun doesn't supply enough of a counterargument to the Second law of Thermodynamics.

['Based on what? Cite your source. Show us the math.']

Raw energy alone (sunlight) is of no particular use to anything.

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mutualfundies #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

Finally the Evolios have been exposed!

If these complex mammals were around at the time of the dinosaurs then it would constitute proof that Human Beings existed along side the dinosaurs as well. It is because everything was intelligently designed from DAY ONE!!!

Why have there been no Human fossils found from this time? Obviously there just weren't that many Humans around at that time. If the U.S. military can't find WMD in a little country like Iraq how could anyone expect to find a few dozen Human fossils on the whole Planet?!?!?!

People only believe that the Earth is millions of years old because they have bought into the big lie; that evolution accounts for speciation.

If one believes that evolution accounts for speciation then one also believes that the Earth has been around for a long time because it would take thousands of generations for speciation to occur.

This is a perfect example of the effectiveness of the BIG LIE TECHNIQUE perpetrated on innocent students by leftist "public education".

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muslconstruction #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

I don't think so. Lent like most of Catholicism is a pagan import. Want a big fat child molesting fertility God who has all the same letters in his name as Satan. See Santa. Want a pagan fertility Goddess whose worship involved temple prostitutes and pagan fertility symbols like bunnies and eggs, see easter. Want a big evergreen tree as a sign of everlasting life by which you set offerings for your pagan priests see the christmas tree. Some Catholic stuff is in the bible though. Like the pope who as a symbol of satan "is in the temple declaring himself to be god" and having the power to remit sins. The end times apostacy regarding celibates and their forbidding to eat certain meats. Oh maybe that's lent. Plus the worship of graven images, the stealing of scripture ("Satan comes to steal the Word") and other stuff. Remember observing lying vanities forsaketh your own mercy" and see New orleans for what happens to those practicing religious blasphemies and pagan abominations.

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muslconstruction #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

I bought a Bible for 99 cents at a "Marcs" discount store. The bible says that there is a devil who will tempt you into partaking in things that wiill kill you while decieivng you into thinking what you are doing is "oh so sophisticated". Just look at the healthy people. Read the slogans, the cigartettes "TASTE FRESH" blah, blah, blah. It's obvious that smoking is a sin glamorized by Jews like Louie B. Mayer, filling the coffers of Big Tobacco, blah blah. The Bible that I paid less than a fdollar for says that the wages of sin is death. Go to the hospitals and see all the women who were promiscuous dying of vaginal cancers. See all the promiscuous homosexuals dying of aids. The smokers on trach tubes dying of throat and lung cancers, the iv drug users whose heart valves were ruined blah, blah, blah. The fact is that sin and death are promoted in an evil world, and the truths of the bible are hidden. Of course smoking kills you.

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saccos_cell_phones #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

[David D. G notes 'He makes reference to a link halfway through the post, but does not provide one there; however, he makes a sort of "takeback" reference to it toward the end.']

I came across an insurgent propaganda video on the Internet produced by al Qaida in which they declare they will kill all Americans and why.

In the script of the video, which al Qaida and Muslim insurgents are fond of running in front of their sniper and IED video footage, al Qaida claims that Jesus was a Muslim.

That alone tells me that al Qaida is afraid of Jesus and his Bible thumpers in Christianity. Afraid enough to try and con the world into believe Jesus is a Muslim and not a Christian.

Or it makes a direct connection between Christianity and al Qaida. I know for a fact that US Christians are terrorists but I never thought they were directly aligned with al Qaida and Islam.

Here's the link to the al Qaida produced video on the Internet so you can see for yourselves their claim that Jesus was a Muslim.

It proves to me beyond a shadow of a doubt that all religion is a lie and nothing but a con job.

Well, strke me dead, but I can't find the video any longer. It was either at www.ogrish.com or www.puttfile.com. The Christian terrorists spying on me likely learned I found the video yesterday and made certain it was removed to deter any link between themselves and al Qaida.

But the script at the head of the al Qaida vid clearly stated that Jesus was a Muslim.

I know that Italians are cocksuckers.

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singlemomscarrystds #racist news.messages.yahoo.com

@YOU HAVE EYES BUT YOU CANNOT SEE

YOU HAVE EARS BUT YOU CANNOT HEAR

YOU WORK HARD AND HAVE MONEY BUT YOU ONLY GET TO KEEP AND USE WHAT THE JEWS "GRACE" YOU WITH.

You live in ignorance. I hope for your sake it's "bliss". Remember this the next time you get "pissed off" at your bank/credit issuers or ANYthing connected with the banks. Remember this when you pay all those taxes (the ones you manage to see). Remember, the JewBanks enable the taxes to be collected OVER and OVER again. Banks and tax collectors sleep in the exact same bed every night. It's a match made in JewHeaven on Earth.

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emh112203 #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

[Scientific proof of God]

Hypothesis: Humans will continue to enter the world through painful childbirth, minus cloning which is not an original human being born but a clone of one that already existed or still exists.

Prediction: We will continue to see people born of painful child birth as the Bible contends.

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trulyfree57 #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

In my humble opinion: If you've studied body magnets, you know that Lourdes is the most magnetized place on earth that we know of. Of course, all magnetism on earth was created by Jehovah God. You can put magnetism to work for yourself by wearing bi-polar body magnets. The best ones on the market are by Nikken and they can be found on the web. Do a google search to learn about the healing effects of magnets. Use the healing things God provided for us in nature and trust in Him for all things!

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choose_erudite #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

['You keep ranting about how evolutionary theory is predicated on 'random' chemical reactions. If you passed high school chemistry, you would know that atoms do not 'randomly' interact with each other.']

says Wea pon..

I distinctly remember pouring a little bit of this and a little bit of that, randomly, ignorantly, without taking notes, and certainly with intelligent design. You know what I got, don't you? It certainly wasn't a strand of DNA. IT WAS MUD.

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Theme_investor #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

No....they are different 'kinds' within the same main specie.

Animals are animals, but there are many different kinds.

Just because 2 kinds can't breed doesn't make them different main species.
A cat and a dog are both the same main specie...animal...but they can't breed.

One main specie can never morph into another main specie !....absolutely impossible !

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presario0960 #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

Whales are mammals meing they breathe air with their lungs, but at some point evolutionsists say they were a fish with gills and breated oxygen from the ocean's water, well apparently at the time of transition from gills to lungs the first baby came out not as an egg but alive, during the transition was it half and egg and half an embryo and it just decided to change into an embryo, well wouldn't the very first whale baby have drowned that was born in the depths of the sea as an embryo with lungs?
There are so many cases where evolution is laughable and are serious scientific arguemnts why the thought of evolution is quite laughable.

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readyoknot #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

Humans did NOT evolve from fish nor apes. It that be the case would we not be still transforming into other forms of 'animals'? Fish are NOT animals... so therefore how in the world can a fish transform into a human?

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shrill_neoconazi_idiot #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

So first we disprove their little liberal evolution theory on the basis of unsatisfactory evidence, and suddenly POOF, they have more fossils which just happen to perfectly fit into the huge holes in their theories. You have to be pretty naive for fall for such a simpleminded trick!

['SIMPLEMINDED? And it is not simpleminded to believe in such archaic fables such as the existence of god which were believed to exist by the Mesopotamians, the inhabitants of one of the Earth's FIRST CIVILIZATIONS, thousands of years ago? SIMPLEMINDED! ha!']

You choose to mock God but yet you have no problem believing in such idiotic monstrosities as diplodocus or stegosaurus or archeopterix. I mean, come on! If you're going to fool people, at least TRY to be convincing. Evolution theory is simply laughable.

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ur_just2_stupid #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

[Responding to challenges posed by another poster, but completely missing the point of them and even somehow thinking that weather forecasting includes tsunamis]

['if the scientists "are consistently wrong" how is it you are writing these messages on an abacus']

So being able to converse with these scientific morons is a plus ?

['If the medical folks are "consistently wrong" then how come everyone is living long enough to get cancer these days']

Gee there's a real positive outcome huh...probably enjoy the pain huh?

['If the weathermen are consistently wrong, howcome so many people DID get out of NO BEFORE Katrina hit?']

Yep..so many have survived..I can think of the wonderful tsunami wave and all those dead buried souls just so happy for weathermen, and the predictions that the storms are coming so make sure your insurance premiums are paid..because you when you have nothing left & get nothing from us..we'll make sure your account was marked paid in full though.

Yeah..science..a real misery prolonger---wonder if all those dead Japanese wre happy with the results of the atomic bomb ? hmmmm

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clearheart7 #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

[Commenting on mysterious vibrations coming from inside the earth]

Ever think that it could be HELL ??? The bible talks about satan promising and tempting Christ with all the riches of the world if only Christ would worship him ? And, that heaven is always thought to be UP in the sky , in a celestial spiritual demension,and that satan was CAST OUT OF HEAVEN...where did he go ? There must be a place DOWN beneath ,and pit -like...why couldn't it be in the center of the earth. ? The rumblings / vibrations could very well be the unearthly moaning and crying of tormented disembodied souls that rejected God and Christ in this life. Many people who have after death experiences...some claim they descended into a pit where they were groped, abused, clawed. Not a pleasant thought for sure ! But POSSIBLE !! Those rumblings can't all be GAS !!!

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dianainlla #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

Dinos were real in the bible. they were called dragons. They did exist but only a few thousand years ago.

You need millions of years for your "THEORY" to have happened and that's simply not the case.

You people see only what you want to see. That's not reality!

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beth4christ_and_country #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

Dinos: One of the biggest lies peddled by the atheist liberal left. It's like, yeah right, we're supposed to believe that gigantic lizards walked around for supposedly millions of years, and magically no one knew they even existed until the coming of the atheist religion of Evolution in the 1800s.

Dinosaurs are just an attempt by radical leftists to try and cast doubt on the existence and omnipotence of God and to attack Creationist science. It's their way of worming an idea into people God is an imperfect God who tinkered around with another species before giving up on it and creating mankind. But there is no evidence in the Bible or otherwise to support such a stance.

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keypointist #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

If we asked a doctor what he thought about me drugging and raping baloney_detector [another poster] he would surely say in his clinical judgement no medical harm was done.

I am saying that we SHOULD provide pain relief as a matter of course to foetuses but this will not eliminate the moral issue.

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gurl_troll_4_u #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

The only ones doing brainwashing here are the homosexuals. Those who attempt to interfere with the brainwashing is falsely accused of the same. It was this brainwash that caused you to be gay, and you should be angry at the programmers and fight them, not join them like you have. So, what can I tell you but to run along and be a good little programmed homosexual sheep slave and leave the rest of us alone.

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berrean #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

[I much prefer rational thought and a skeptical approach to "faith".]

The next time you get in a plane for somewhere, remember that approach and see if you don't have second thoughts about getting on that plane.

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atlantisz2001 #racist news.messages.yahoo.com

..this offensive of SODOMITES is not "just happen"!.There is "someone" behind it!They control the mass-media and did all the dirty works!THEY ARE ALL KO$HER AND THEIR HUMBLE SERVANTS SOLD THEIR SOUL FOR 33 "$HEKELS"

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eimlauqons9 #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

very simple adam and eve were perfect and when they became imperfect, they still had a lot more genes than us. in other words they had not been diluted out. so their children were of varying races and as you describe when there became enough of them, they took mates of their race for the most part and were living in certain areas.

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cdecar2000 #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

Why should America follow the Geneve convention when terrorists do not? We must act in the same way as the terrorists. War has no rules much like the terrorists. Screw the world opinion when it comes to fighting terrorism. Torture, excecute terrorists if need be to find necessary information.

This is a new generation of war, Geneva convention is old and out dated. There is no human rights in war.

We must let the terrorists know that if they are caught with explosive material on their hands then its automatic excecution on site.

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mr_bambrick #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

And you wonder why you lose so many elections?

Here's a hint: Nobody cares about your terrorist supporting, God and Jesus hating, baby killing, flag burning, culture of death.

Take your views to France or Canada where they welcome traitors to America. You are not wanted here.

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keneikirk #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

['In essence, they claim that genetic change can happen from generation to generation, but that such changes are always within the context of a species, and that such chages can never result in speciation.']

That is not actually what creationists believe. Creationists definitely believe in speciation, but not change from one kind of animal to another (e.g. chimp to man).

There is plenty of evidence for speciation, which both creationists and evolutionists believe in. Short-haired dogs in tropical climates and long-haired dogs in cold climates can be different species (they may no longer be able to interbreed for various reasons and are therefore considered different species), but they are still both dogs.

The burden of proof is on the evolutionist for anything further than that.

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istnuom #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

thank you for understanding, and as for the information about evolution not having enough time. i have read about things in the past but at this time i do not have the information. the two did not come together at the same time, but an example would be, i have read somewhere that a rabbit would have taken about a million years to have evoluted. and since evolution goes at about the same pace and a 30 ton dinosaur is about 6000 times bigger than a rabbit and a 100 ton whale is about 20000 times bigger. it would have taken about 6000 to 20000 times longer for the bigger ones to have evoluted. or 6 billion and 20 billion years respectively, now how much longer for the humans. i do not know how to figure that yet,but of course we are a lot higher intelligent species than any of the animals. so it would have taken longer, does anybody know of a way i or others can do the math?oh and i believe my math is right ,i just did not have longer to make sure. anybody can point out any errors to me.

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pjmutnick@sbcglobal.net #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

I am awaiting the descent of the Lord with legions of extraterrestrial angels in the spaceships of the Ashtar Command. They will neutralize the U.S. military is a nanosecond, and then proceed to take over the country. SANANDA, aka Jesus, will declare Himself President, disband Congress and the Supreme Court, and then call for a new Constitutional Convention. This one will make "one nation under God" a reality and not a hypocritical joke. Jesus is a Christ Communist, so the new Constitution will outlaw all forms of capitalism, aka greed and self-seeking.

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vif234 #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

I know it's diffucult for you to see the truth, but please try.

Evolutionism is the most dangerous form of religion on the planet today. It's such a intolerant religion that it refuses to be called a religion, even though its major belief, that fossils will provide the answer, is faith-based.

The Christian Apostle Paul wrote that "Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not yet seen."

Evolutionists are still waiting to see the fossil evidence, but they have FAITH it is there waiting to be dug up.

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mabellehardie #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

The THEORY of evolutoion is a hoax. It is a lack of current studies and scientific study that keeps people or the uneducated masses ignorant of the truth about Creationalism.........Darwin did not even have proof of the cell.now we do...........evolution is just another tactic to have a socialistic society!

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randy_ds9 #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

[Previous Poster: "It seems the biggest problem with Christians is their political lobby to stop abortion, to have prayer in schools, to have God on our money and in the pledge, and generally ramming their beliefs down our throats."]

and that is right beside you lobby to force the US to accept gay marriage, insist that a 12 year old is mature enough to make an abortion decision for herself, 13 should be the legal age of sexual consent, and all drugs should be legal. When we won't go along, you try to use lawsuits, lawyers, and activist ACLU judges to "force your agenda down everyones throat"

"Why do you care so much what others believe?"

I don't, but I am sick and tired of mindless left wing idiots like you trying to belittle and attack what I believe. Your ID [bushisatraitor] says it all

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nokovichspi #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

how ignorant can these posers be

The guy says that this is the hottest that has been seen in 80 million years, We didn't have thermometers until the late 1500's by a guy named Galileo Galilei. They don't even know what the temperature was before that. I get really amused by these posers who think we have no brains. I'm beginning to wonder where their's is.

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adamgadahnarouseslibtardstreason #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

GOP only party protecting family values

And that's why it's such an abnormality and unorthodox anomaly that a sodomite actually comes out of the closet running in a GOP primary. Demoncrats usually are the party of freaks, geeks and all-around weirdos which tolerates these unnatural and ungodly freaks of nature, so Koering (the sodomite) can expect to probably lose the GOP primary to Goedker. If Koering the Sodomite loses the primary for councilman to Goedker, it won't be because the GOP is a party which is "intolerant," as commonly derogated by the narrow-minded and simplistic imbeciles called leftards. Rather, if Koering the Sodomite is refused in the GOP primary, it will be because of GOP voters exercising their moral clarity and superior values, virtues and religious conviction. Sodomites like Koering are anathema in the sense that they offend religion, offend nature since they can't reproduce, and offend the family values the GOP is known for. Another hazardous precedent of treating sodomites like a demographic is that after you legitimate them, you'll have to do the same for all other "alternative" lifestyles--like NAMBLA sex with kids. Still, it's of note to point out that gay as Koering is, his stand against abortion, for veterans, and for gun rights makes him more macho than any "heterosexual" lib male.

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null_and_void_in_calif #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

Bible is too old to not be true

Back when the Bible was written, people had a good, healthy fear of God. They were terrified of the consequences of sin, which of course includes lying. The educated were keenly aware of proper behaviour, and would not have written a book and passed it off as truth if it wasn't. This, of course, is the case with the men who penned God's word into man's greatest history book -- The Bible. To think they would have included lies is preposterous.

In fact, the further one goes back in history, the less sin that occured (per capita) and thus the fewer lies that were told (oral AND written). This is why older books tend to be more accurate than newer ones.

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jetsz@rogers.com #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

you want extraterestrial beings to what
by: jetsz@rogers.com 10/10/06 11:53 am
Msg: 13 of 13

If this race of ours called human think that they can send anything into space for extraterestrial life to get informed about...try to remember that extraterestrial life knows everything that mankind has discovered or will for a matter of hypothesis.
Also should the mid heavens want anyhing to do with this race they certainly wouldnt use the same technology that you are using. Instead of looking for other worlds why not just have faith that GOD is and will always be watching all creation from alpha to omaga.
Aliens have and always will be just that until you look into the mirror and realise that you are an alien to this planet. Fallin from where you want to get back too. The only way is to be humble to the king of kings, and not Darwin and his monkey hypothesis. Never proven, but taught. What alien in thier right mind would want to know monkeys lol. Darwin is biology not prof of evolution. I cn think of a hundred places that money would benefit versus sending it into bolivia.

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quackie9999 #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

Evolution covers a finite time interval

It is comical that people who choose "evolution" as a philosophy which explains our ultimate origins are also claiming to be logical and intelligent.

Because right at the outset, it is OBVIOUS TO ANYONE WITH A FUNCTIONING BRAIN, that since evolution only even tries to address a finite time interval, IT IS NOT EVEN A DIMENSIONALLY CORRECT THEORY TO APPLY TO EXPLAIN OUR ULTIMATE ORIGINS AND THE ORIGINS OF THE UNIVERSED.

ie - What happened before the "big bang"?

What percent of the infinity of time is accounted for by the finite time interval of the theory of evolution?

Answer: ZERO PERCENT.

Since God created the dimensions of time and space and all matter from nothing, it is logical that He is also responsible for all life, whether or not any suppositions of the theory of ecolution are consistent with His creative process.

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birch84118 #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

[In response to a science article describing the atmospheric "haze" on Saturn's moon Titan as resembling the atmosphere theorized for the early Earth, possibly providing nourishment for early life forms.]

In a way, they are saying God did it. The haxe they are speaking of closely resembles the 'filament' that surrounded the Earth before the Great Flood.

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d54r@prodigy.net #fundie news.messages.yahoo.com

[In a response to a news story about forthcoming new U.S. $1 coins featuring presidents' faces on them, but presented a bit larger than on most coins because words such as "In God We Trust" will be printed on the edge instead of the face of the coin.]

I am appalled that they are going to put "In God We Trust" on the edge of the coin. This is because they know they will get a lot of flack if they omit it altogether, so, therefore, they will put it on the edge where it cannot be seen and after a little usage it won't be able to be seen at all. Reduce the size of the figure on the front and put "In God We Trust" back where it belongs. This is the United States of America and we were founded on the belief in God. Quit the political correctness, and quit trying to please all of the foreign-born people that come here and want to change everything. If this type of thing does not stop soon, we will have more consequences to pay than some of you people realize! If the people in this country do not like our ways, let them go back to their own country. Quit trying to make our country into something that will please everyone. THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN!