You know, there’s a law – what about a law that says it’s a federal crime to attack somebody because of his religious beliefs? Not a chance!

I think we need to remember the term sodomy came from a town known as Sodom and Sodom was destroyed by God Almighty and the thing that they practiced was homosexual activity and even they tried to rape angels who came down there, so that's the kind of people they were. But beyond that, Jesus when He spoke of Sodom He didn't say anything about the homosexuality he talked about just the fact that business was as usual until God decided to destroy it. And He sent an angel down there and He said to Lot and his family, ‘get out now because I'm gonna destroy this whole area.' That's where sodomy came from, we use the term sodomy and it means Sodom. What's it like? We're heading that way as a nation. In history there's never been a civilization ever in history that has embraced homosexuality and turned away from traditional fidelity, traditional marriage, traditional child-rearing, and has survived. There isn't one single civilization that has survived that openly embraced homosexuality. So you say, "what's going to happen to America?" Well if history is any guide, the same thing's going to happen to us.

[Robertson responding to the New Hampshire legislatures vote to approve gay marriage on the Christian Broadcast Network.]

Lee, we haven’t taken this to its ultimate conclusion. You got polygamy out there. How can we rule that polygamy is illegal when you say that homosexual marriage is legal. What is it about polygamy that’s different? Well, polygamy was outlawed because it was considered immoral according to biblical standards. But if we take biblical standards away in homosexuality, what about the other? And what about bestiality and ultimately what about child molestation and pedophilia? How can we criminalize these things and at the same time have constitutional amendments allowing same-sex marriage among homosexuals. You mark my words, this is just the beginning in a long downward slide in relation to all the things that we consider to be abhorrent.

{Thread title: People misunderstood Pat Robertson}

So I was watching fox news, and they were bashing Pat Robertson for his statement for not being compassionate. This is not true at all. Pat Robertson was saying why he thought it happened, he DID NOT SAY that he didn't care or didn't feel bad for the people. Heck, I'll bet that he's going to be a major sender of aid to the country.

It's the same thing with salvation. I'm sure Pat Robertson would say people are going to hell because they're wicked and sinful, yet he would love them and care for them enough want for them to get saved, and tell them how to get saved.

As for if it was God's judgment, I am undecided, but even on 20/20 they were saying how currupt Haiti's government had been, and that "it seems as though they are almost cursed".

Those of you who have had some degree of understanding about the New World Order -- that fiendishly clever conspiratorial movement to slowly bring about a super-centralized one-world dictatorship -- have no doubt experienced the frustration of trying to convince family and friends that A: You are not "crazy," and B: The trans-generational monster plot to take down America is real and not even that well-concealed any more. The torment that comes with seeing the world as it really is, while the willfully blind ridicule you, is a terrible burden that we "conspiracy theorists" ™ have always had to bear, in spite of the world's stupidity and hostility. After all, "He who dares not offend cannot be honest." (Thomas Paine).

But what if one of the 20th Century's best known and most trusted news media "rock stars" was to confirm, on camera, the validity of our nutty "conspiracy theory" ™. And what if an equally famous woman, the First Lady of the United States at the time, who came damn near close to becoming our 45th President, then congratulated that same man for his honest remarks while expressing full agreement with his totalitarian world government scheme? Would the doubters still be laughing? Try using this piece on them, and let us know what kind of reaction you get.

The logo of Cronkite's CBS depicts the same all-seeing eye as the logo for the "Novus Ordo Seclorum" (New World Order for the Ages) found on the back of a $1 dollar bill.

THE SETTING

CBS propaganda had dubbed the legendary anchorman "the most trusted man in America” and the people believed it. From those early 1962 days of TV News (when there were only three networks and no cable stations) through 1981, Cronkite's carefully cultivated marketing image as a grandfatherly sage was unquestioned. In those naive pre-Internet, pre-talk radio days, "Uncle Walter's" leftist propaganda was difficult for amateurs to detect -- but it was always there.

In 1999, Cronkite, who was by then retired, appeared at a United Nations room to accept the Norman Cousins Global Governance Award from the openly pro-world government World Federalists Association. He told those assembled, including First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton (watching by video feed), that he had always believed in world government but could not say so openly because of his position as CBS Anchorman.

Some excerpts, coupled with editorial analysis:

Cronkite: I am greatly honored to receive this award for two reasons: first, I believe as Norman Cousins did that the first priority of humankind in this era is to establish an effective system of world law that will assure peace with justice among the peoples of the world; second, I feel sentimental about this award and this organization because half a century ago Norman offered me a job as spokesman and Washington lobbyist for the World Federalist organization, which was then in its infancy.

Analysis: Norman Cousins was a Jewish-American journalist, author, professor and tireless activist for world government. The fact that Cousins offered young Walter a job with the World Federalists a "half century ago" confirms that Cronkite was always a Globalist-Socialist, if not a full blown "McCarthy-era" communist.

Cronkite: For many years, I did my best to report on the issues of the day in as objective a manner as possible to achieve. When I had my own strong opinions, as I often did, I tried not to communicate them to my audience.

Analysis: Nonsense! Cronkite's reporting was always heavily slanted leftward. It was harder to notice in those days because the viewing public had few alternatives to compare with.

Cronkite: Now, however, my circumstances are considerably different. I am in a position to speak my mind. And by God I'm gonna do it! (loud applause)

Analysis: You see, now that the retired old man has got nothing to lose, he can finally and completely drop his mask of "objectivity."

Cronkite: Those of us who are living today can influence the future of civilization. We can influence whether our planet will drift into chaos and violence, or whether through a monumental educational and political effort we will achieve a world of peace under a system of law ...

Analysis: A "monumental educational and political effort." -- Cronkite is talking about mass brainwashing, beginning in grade school, such as is now the case with the Global Warming ™ / Climate Chamnge ™ hoax to usher in world taxation.

Cronkite: ... where individual violators of that law are brought to justice.

Analysis: An "individual violator" is any foreign government that dares to defy the New World Order. The term "brought to justice" means that the "violator" is to be killed.

Cronkite: For how many thousands of years now have we humans been what we insist on calling "civilized"? And yet, in total contradiction, we also persist in the savage belief that we must occasionally, at least, settle our arguments by killing one another.

Analysis: Classic projection tactic. It is the warmongering "one worlders" who have, directly or indirectly, engineered just about every major conflict of the past two centuries! (Read: "Planet Rothschild")

1. "Peace...Peace ...Peace" -- the phony mantra of Globalists like Norman Cousins.

2. The "Planet Rothschild" two-volume set blows the cover off of this monster plot to turn humanity into a global bee-hive of raceless alienated tax and debt slaves.

Cronkite: While we spend much of our time and a great deal of our treasure in preparing for war, we see no comparable effort in establishing peace.

Analysis: Here is the "inside joke." -- In the Globalist code language, "peace" ™ is defined as the absence of resistance to the Globalists. When all nations finally and unconditionally surrender to the New World Order (a global EU), then and only then will the Globalists finally stop their endless bombings, sanctions, bribing, blackmailing, coups, assassinations, "color revolutions," wars, and proxy wars against the "violators" -- thus bringing about "world peace." See the trick?

Cronkite: It seems to many of us that if we are to avoid the eventual catastrophic world conflict we must strengthen the United Nations as a first step toward a world government with a legislature, executive and judiciary, and police to enforce its international laws and keep the peace. ... We Americans are going to have to yield up some of our sovereignty. That's going to be to many a bitter pill. It would take a lot of courage, a lot of faith and a lot of persuasion for them to come along with us on this necessity. ... But the American colonies did it once and brought forth one of the most nearly perfect unions the world has ever seen.

Analysis: Cronkite leaves no doubt. He and his ilk seek the end of America (and all nations) and the emergence of all powerful one-world-super-state to be erected behind the phony platitudinous facades of "federalism" and "democracy" ™ and "peace" ™ and "human rights" ™. And if they don't get it done "peacefully," they will have no choice but to unleash an "eventual catastrophic world conflict." (World War III)

Cronkite: Today we must develop federal structures on a global level. We need a system of enforceable world law --a democratic federal world government. ... Today the notion of unlimited national sovereignty means international anarchy. We must replace the anarchic law of force with a civilized force of law.

Translation: National sovereignty = chaos and anarchy. Nations = bad. World Government = good.

Cronkite: Ours is never going to be perfect world, nor a world without disagreement and occasional violence. But it will be a world where the majority of national leaders will consistently abide by the rule of world law, if we have our way, and those who won't will be dealt with effectively and with due process by the structures of that same world law.

Translation: Those who dare to defy our New World Order will be "dealt with" (Hussein of Iraq, Chavez of Venezuela, Qaddafi of Libya, Lil' Kim of North Korea, Assad of Syria, Putin of Russia et al.)

Cronkite: Consider... the possibility of a more representative and democratic system of decision making at the U.N. This should include both revision of the veto in the Security Council and adoption of a weighted voting system for the General Assembly. The World Federalists have endorsed Richard Hudson's Binding Triad proposal.

Analysis: By removing the veto of Security Council members (US, UK, France, China, Russia) each of the major powers will be powerless before the General Assembly's mob rule -- a mob directly controlled by the top Globalist mobsters who will have by then discarded "hit man" America like a used-up lemon.

Cronkite: George Soros, in his recent book "The Crisis of Global Capitalism," has given serious attention to this concept which would be based upon not only one-nation-one-vote but also on population and contributions to the U.N. budget.

Analysis: There it is!!! Mafia journalist Cronkite and George Soros (a "capo" of the Rothschild gang) dream of a "one-nation-one-vote" system in which hundreds of Turd World mini-gangster states get to rob the "evil rich White people" of America and Europe blind while flooding the West with their dirt-poor and criminal elements -- all done "democratically," of course. (rolling eyes sarcastically) Mind you, this was stated 20 years before the Soros-funded immigration invasion that we are witnessing today!

For nearly 40 years, the notorious billionaire George Soros has been pumping hundreds of millions of dollars in radical leftist causes, Globalist political campaigns worldwide, and world government groups. Gangsters like Soros make and promote men like Cronkite.

Cronkite: Resolutions adopted by majorities in each of these areas would be binding, enforceable law.

Analysis: "Binding, enforceable law" means that no power on earth, including the de-balled USA of the future, will ever be able to rebel against the New World Order. And that is why "liberals" are so obsessed with disarming all those millions of American "good ol' boys" who might find world government to be "a bitter pill to swallow." And you thought "gun control" was about "saving children." Ha!

Cronkite: Within the powers given to it in the Charter, the U.N. could then deal with matters of reliable financing,

Analysis: "Reliable financing" means a system of world taxation. That's what the Climate Change ™ hoax and its proposed "solution" of imposing "carbon taxes" on "wealthy nations" is really all about.

Cronkite: ... a standing U.N. peace force, development, the environment ....

Translation: Cronkite envisions a multi-ethnic global goon squad enforcing tax collection and compliance with the world system.

Cronkite: ... and human rights.

Analysis: More code language. When Globalists speak of "human right," ™, they are referring to the "rights" of their paid trouble-makers within any "violator" nation to subvert that particular government. When the target government is forced to crack down on the CIA-NGO backed agitators, saboteurs, terrorists and subversives, the Globalist media, led by the New York Slimes, will immediately accuse that nation of "human rights violations" and call for sanctions, bombing, war etc.

Cronkite: As with the American rejection of the League of Nations after World War I, our failure to live up to our obligations to the U.N. is led by a handful of willful senators who choose to pursue their narrow, selfish political objectives at the cost of our nation's conscience. They pander to and are supported by the Christian Coalition and the rest of the religious right wing.

Analysis: In order to avoid the sound logical and moral arguments against One World Government, Cronkite is setting up the straw-man of the goofy televangelist Pat Robertson.

Cronkite: Their leader, Pat Robertson, ....

Analysis: I didn't know that Pat Robertson was "our leader," -- did "youse guys" (New Jerseyese for the plural of you) know that?

Cronkite: ... has written that we should have a world government but only when the messiah arrives. "Attempts for world order before that time must be work of the Devil." -- Well, join me, I am glad to sit here at the right hand of Satan.

Analysis: Given the freaky fascination with the occult that many of these elites have been known to dabble in, Cronkite's shout-out to Satan might very well have been literal. Indeed, Cronkite was, for many years, the voice of Molech the Owl for the creepy-as-all-heck "Cremation of Care" ceremony at the secretive annual gatherings at the Bohemian Grove in Northern California. (here).

Cronkite: The only way we who believe in the vision of a democratic world federal government can effectively overcome this reactionary movement is to organize a strong educational counteroffensive stretching from the most publicly visible people in all fields to the humblest individuals in every community.

Translation: We still have got a lot of brainwashing to do before the American people will accept the New World Order as a good thing.

Now, here's the kicker. After Commie Cronkite wrapped up his open call for treason and full NWO "democratic" takeover, First Lady, future US Senator, future Secretary of State and 2016 Presidential nominee Killary Rotten Clinton appeared on the big screen to congratulate "the most trusted man in America" on his treason award.

IN HER OWN WORDS

Clinton: "Good evening and congratulations, Walter, on receiving the World Federalist Association's Global Governance Award. For more than a generation in America, it wasn't the news until Walter Cronkite told us it was the news. Every night at 6 o'clock, we listened as you explained the complex events of the day. ... You became a trusted member of my family and the families across America. For decades, you told us "the way it is," but tonight, we honor you for fighting for the way it could be. .. So thank you, Walter. Thank you for inspiring all of us to build a more peaceful and just world. We are still listening to your every word. And with your continuing leadership, we can sail across these un-navigated seas into the 21st Century, and there is no better captain that I can imagine than you."

Cronkite and Clinton --- "the most trusted man in America" and the neurotic hag who, were it not for Donald Trump, almost became "the first woman President" -- just a couple of meaningless and non-influential "conspiracy theorists" ™, eh? Believe it, there are plenty more big names who think just like them. Actually, the entire PRC (Predatory Ruling Class) is on board with the America-busting New World Order, or at least afraid of bucking "the tide of history."

Now, as much as the pro-Globalist prostitutes of the Piranha Press, Hollyweird, Corporate America (and Europe) and Academia all love Killary and Walter (who died in 2009), that's as much as they hate Trump and Putin. So why do the "great and the good" of the bought-and-paid-for pseudo-intelligentsia all hate on Trump and Putin so much? Read the quotes below, and the world situation will begin to make more sense to you.

Trump: “We will no longer surrender this country or its people to the false song of globalism. My foreign policy will always put the interest of the American people and America security above all else. That will be the foundation of every single decision I will make.”

“America First will be the major and overriding theme of my administration,”

Putin: "What is a unipolar world? However one might embellish this term, at the end of the day it refers to one type of situation, namely one centre of authority, one centre of force, one centre of decision-making.

It is world in which there is one master, one sovereign. And at the end of the day this is pernicious not only for all those within this system, but also for the sovereign itself because it destroys itself from within....I consider that the unipolar model is not only unacceptable but also impossible in today's world. "

Putin and Trump certainly sound like "violators" who need to be "dealt with" -- eh Walter? If you still think the New World Order is just "paranoid conspiracy theory," then there is little else that can be done to enlighten you --- short of an economic calamity and/or World War III with Russia and China (which kingpin George Soros had already strongly hinted at (here)). But if you are intrigued by this subject and would like to learn more, then please have a look at "Planet Rothschild" (also linked below). Your world-view will never be the same.

We are in trouble America! In an interview with CNN's Suzanne Malveaux, conservative Pat Robertson said he was "remarkably pleased" with President-elect Barack Obama. Sadly, millions of followers of Robertson's The 700 Club are likely to support an immoral, abortionist, gay-friendly, anti-American Communist U.S. President. This is just another clear indicator that Pat Robertson is of the Devil, a false prophet masquerading as a preacher of the Gospel. Robertson has publicly approved of Communist Barack Obama and the Socialist government Obama has vowed to set-up...

I can assured tell you that Pat Robertson's god is NOT the God of the Bible, because Socialism and Communism are diametrically opposed to the Word of God. The Bible teaches Capitalism

[Regarding Pat Robertson's praise of Obama.]

Pat has been around a LONG time. And altho I don't agree with him, he has done some good for the kingdom. Jesus told us that we will be able to judge them by their fruits... and at one time, Pat's fruit was good (years ago), but as he has gotten older, his fruit is beginning to spoil somewhat. Pastors like Pat Robertson and Rick Warren will answer to the Lord one day for preaching a compromising gospel.

Pat Robertson is an evil man, part of the Illuminati. Pat Robertson's Christian Broadcasting Network (CBN) promotes New Age psychologists for Christian leaders who need help. Literally, Robertson is controlled opposition for the NWO. As hard as it is to believe, these people are sincere, but Satanic. CBN sends gullible Christian leaders to be taught New Age chants and meditation instead of Biblical preaching. You'd be better off jumping off a bridge than going to the people they recommend. I'm leery of the whole mess. I expose them all for the trash they are. I don't mean to be unkind, but when CBN sends hurting marriages and struggling believers to New Age gurus for spiritual help, someone needs to get mad and take a stand for God!!! I am doing that by God's grace!!!

[On Pat Robertson’s claim of being able to leg-press 2000 lbs.]

ok, all of you making these assumptions obviously do not have strong faith in God what so ever. did not God give the judge Samson enough strength to tear down a stone pillard building with his bare hands when he was blind, beaten, and hindered with shackles? He was at an old age too, and had been working by grinding grain. If you don't believe this then you can read Judges 16:21-31 in the Bible. Now, Samson was not ever considered a "superhuman", yet i'm sure he could've leg pressed way more than 2,000! How is it not possible that God has given this same strength to another faith filled, believing Christian. ANYTHING is possible with God if you enough faith. The Bible says, with enough faith, you can move mountains. Pat Robertson has enough faith to be given enough strength to leg press 2,000. Besides, this whole thing happened 3YEARS AGO! This is old news, and the media had no new dirt to bring up on him, so they went searching his sight and found this small detail. Robertson certainly does not make this truth into a well known thing obviously, because he has kept it quiet for 3 years until the media decided to hunt it down. You have no basis to say "his ego is totally out of control to make such a claim." So i'm tired of you people who think you know everything to give this man a break and worry about the problems in your own lives that are much more important. If i had not been with him and seen it myself then i would have no basis myself to share this truth. But i was and so was his doctor, Dr. W, who has sworn through his profession that he would not lie. but regardless of this, please think about the powerful of God and His miracles before you completely disregard this truth!

You'll never hear Pat Robertson, Ray Comfort, nor Kirk Cameron speak evil against the hellish Catholic religion. Catholics believe in being born-again. Did you know that? Albeit, their understanding of the term is totally unbiblical, flawed, and a false gospel. Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron are publicly silent about Catholicism. I'm not. The Catholic Church is straight from Hell, and you're going to Hell if you think keeping sacraments, getting wet in a baptistery, or confessing your sins to some heathen priest saturated with sins himself will get you into Heaven when you die!

I don't condemn anyone, for the Bible condemns all mankind as guilty sinners (Romans 3:19; 14:10). The Devil is working relentlessly to bring damnable heresies into our churches, to corrupt people's minds and lead them into apostasy away from the Lord. I hate all modern Bible versions for that very reason. Kirk Cameron and Ray Comfort use corrupt Bible versions, so it's not surprising that their doctrines are also corrupt. Corrupt Bibles lead to corrupt teachings, which leads to corrupt living, and eventually Hell if that person doesn't get born-again!

Kirk Cameron is without question an awesome actor and has starred in some amazing movies, like Fireproof. But the bigger picture is that all these ecumenical ministers and celebrities turned Christian, are supportive of the New World Order's agenda to unite the world's various religions into one. By remaining silent about the evils of the Catholic religion, they are all part of the problem. Kirk Cameron won't criticize the Pope nor the Catholic religion, which is blatantly a false religion one billion strong. Everyone is afraid to speak out against the Catholic Church. Pope Benedict XVI said in 2005 that people can be saved even without having any Biblical faith. It's sad, but true, in my opinion Ray Comfort is just trying to make a living, having found his niche in the religious world; but they won't tell the real truth, i.e., that Catholics are all going to Hell in their unbelief.

In The Evidence Bible, Ray Comfort says that there are millions of unsaved people amongst Catholics and Protestants. The false implication is that some Catholics are saved within the Catholic religion. Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron are weak-kneed when it comes to standing up against the almighty Catholic religion. You don't have to wonder where I stand... the Catholic Church is Satanic!!!

Lest he should offend any Catholics, on pg. 1358 Ray Comfort states...

“There are millions of Catholics and Protestants who have never been born again and need to hear the gospel”

SOURCE: THE EVIDENCE BIBLE, by Ray Comfort, pg. 1358; 2003, Bridge-Logos Publishers, Orlando, Florida

Although that is a true statement by Mr. Comfort, the fact of the matter is that Catholics by doctrine are ALL going straight to Hell, because they are trusting upon a works-based salvation (i.e., self-righteousness). In sharp contrast, most Protestant churches hold to a Free Grace view of the Gospel. I just don't understand why, or how, Ray Comfort would bring Protestant believers down to the same level as the damnable Catholic religion. The fact of the matter is that there are millions of saved Protestants; but there are NO SAVED CATHOLICS if they are genuine Catholics.

Why doesn't Ray Comfort speak the truth... there are over ONE BILLION unsaved Catholics in the world!!!

Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron Use Modern Corrupt Bibles

Romans 10:9 in the New International Version (NIV) deceitfully teaches the hellish doctrine of Lordship Salvation. Instead of teaching “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus”; the NIV says you have to “confess Jesus is Lord” to be saved. Blasphemy! So you see, the Bible that you are using means everything. The NIV preaches an entirely different Gospel than the inspired King James Bible does. Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron are using corrupted Bibles, as are John MacArthur, Max Lucado, Rick Warren, Pat Robertson, Billy Graham and all the other apostates and enemies of God today.

My goal is not to be unkind against Mr. Cameron. I did not publish this article to attack him on a personal level. I love everywhere, including Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron; but I love Jesus first and foremost and I must expose false prophets who corrupt the Gospel message. Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron teach the heresy of Lordship Salvation. Cameron promotes John MacArthur's Study Bible on his website, Mr. Lordship Salvation himself. MacArthur is an unsaved Modernist.

The common denominator between all these men are that they all use modern corrupted versions of the Bible. I only trust and use the precious, preserved, and inspired King James Bible. They all use either the hellish New International Version [NIV] or the demonic New King James Bible [NKJB], which are BOTH based upon the heretical Greek text of Westcott and Hort (upon which the Jehovah's Witnesses demonic cult also base their New World Translation). The truth is in plain site if you want it. Most people don't want THE TRUTH.

Most of the false prophets teaching the heresy of Lordship Salvation are from California (John Mac Arthur, Ray Comfort, Kirk Cameron, Jack Chick, et cetera). California is a hotbed of false prophets! Lordship Salvation is the teaching that a person must stop living in sin to be saved. In Jack Chick's case, he's a bit more subtle, teaching that it's not enough to admit one's sinnership to be saved; but a person must also be willing to stop living in sin to be saved. These are all damnable heresies that destroy the gift of God. You don't give up anything to be saved; Jesus gave up everything to pay for our sins. Jesus came into the world to SAVE SINNERS! If you want to be saved, then repent toward God by placing your faith in Jesus Christ, the Son of God, to forgive your sins. It's that simple. God will take care of the rest from there.

The issue is not about Kirk Cameron; but rather, the corrupt Bibles, corrupt religious teachers, corrupt plans of salvation, corrupt organizations, corrupt televangelists, corrupt Contemporary Christian Music [CCM] singers... as with most religious people today, kindly but truthfully said, Kirk Cameron is CORRUPTED!

( rightnow )
Fundie Fridays Cannot Understand Why Fundamental Christians Would Be Pro-Trans, but Anti-Gay
Fundie Fridays (aka Jen) is a YouTuber and suspected TIM (I personally don't think she is, but 🤷🏻‍♀️) who makes videos gossiping about analyzing fundamental Christians. She recently made a video about late fundie Pat Robertson. Pat was anti-gay, but mildly pro-trans. Jen is shocked by this and thinks it makes no sense, but it's perfectly logical when you understand trans is inherently anti-gay. Of course, a fundamental Christian would have such strict views of gender roles, that gay or lesbians would actually be the opposite sex. And of course, he would rather have a "straight woman" than a gay man in his congregation, especially if in the process of turning that gay man into a straight woman means sterilizing him and destroying his sex drive. She just can't see past her ideology to see that though. The cognitive dissonance is real.

( Spencer_Shayy )
This is what happens when you're deliberately ignorant of the world around you. Anyone who does even the slightest bit of digging into the past would know that "transgender" has always been the result of misogyny and homophobia. They'll lament about what happened to Alan Turing without the slightest hint of awareness that that's exactly what they're promoting with this "gender affirming care" bullshit. I have no patience for these people anymore. People like her are willfully blind, and I've had enough. With the invention of the internet and all knowledge now being accessible online, there is NO excuse for not knowing anything anymore!

(On Jack Van Impe. Yes, THAT Jack Van Impe.)

It looks like "THEY" (ILLUMINATI, BILDERBERG)

"PAT ROBERTSONED HIM"

WHEN PAT STARTING TO EXPOSE, WITH HIS EARLY 90'S BOOK, "THE NEW WORLD ORDER" AFTER THEN PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH TALKED ABOUT "A NEW WORLD ORDER" AND " THOUSAND POINTS OF LIGHT" SPEECH MADE TO CONGRESS

"THEY" STARTED MESSING WITH HIS MONEY...BIG TIME...THEN HE "REALIZED" THE "ERROR" OF HIS WAYS AND BEHAVED HIMSELF

Jack has been making alot of New World Order References for the past 2-3 years... I think "THEY" want him to cool it....or else

[Regarding Pat Robertson's comments about the earthquake in Haiti]

Pat may lack judgment in his choice of words, but he is only saying what many of us suspect, though we may not be saying it out loud.

(On Pat Robertson's 1337th prediction on nuclear armageddon)

FGsltw2009 (16 hours ago)
One day Pat may get it right and when he does, that little arrogant smirk you have will be history.

amandacosner (1 week ago)
some people think pat is nuts, but i think he is on to something. i mean that would be the perfect time to attack us. during the election time when our country is at a turning point. The bible predicts things. weather you believe or not, everyone has an opinion. and this is just mine. have a great day!

Televangelist Kenneth Copeland appeared on “The 700 Club” today to triumphantly announce to host Pat Robertson that God’s healing power is sweeping over the world, especially at his Texas church, which he failed to mention was the center of a measles outbreak in 2013. Copeland told Robertson that a man “died in the foyer of the church and God raised him from the dead; he had a heart attack and just died and the Lord raised him up.”

This spirit, Copeland said, “is what has Islam so stirred up.” This led him to compare himself and Robertson to Osama bin Laden, but in a good way.

“The first tape that Osama bin Laden put out years ago, he said Islam is failing and we have to call every Muslim man to service, rise up for jihad, it’s failing. Well that’s one thing that’s true that he said, it’s failing,” Copeland said. “Now, Pat, they called you and they called me extremists, didn’t they? They still do. The reason they call us extremists is because we take the words of Jesus literally and with all of our effort, all of our faith, all of our finances, whatever it takes, we do our utmost to obey those words and bring them to pass. Now, that’s what is happening in Islam.”

Copeland told Robertson that their fervor for Christianity is just like the fervor Islamist extremists claim to have for their faith: “An extreme Islamist is just one that takes the words of Mohammad and with all of his strength, all of his finances and everything he has, he does his best to bring those things to pass, and that’s what we’re seeing on the evening news. But let me tell you who wins here, we win.”

(Response to a commenter criticising Pat Robertson's Haiti remarks)

yeah, except that our revolutionary war heroes didn't make a pact with the devil, they believed in God. Lets also not forget the tsunami that hit in 2004---when people were out celebrating along the shore while all the christians were in church at higher elevations. Coincidence?? I think it's great that pat has the guts to speak out against all these new age IDIOTS who think THEY really have the truth and christians don't!!

[on abortion]

“will the mother die in childbirth” should never be your first questions when considering abortion, because it’s the last thing that can happen. It’s so rare that your first question might as well be “Should we allow mothers to watch TV?” because there is a far higher mortality rate. We ought to stay focused on the primary reasons of why people get abortions to think broadly on the topic. Those go more like “Should we justify murder so a woman can finish college or preserve the youthful look of her body?” or “If the father is a runaway deadbeat, can we declare the child a mass of meaningless cells?” That should come to our mind often when thinking about abortion, because then we’re actually being on topic.

“Especially in the rare and unfortunate case where a woman is raped, impregnated, and has a low chance of surviving the pregnancy—”

Uh, I think this particular instance has maybe happened twice in the history of man. Pregnancy from rape is rare (or unreported) and low survival chances are rare. But let’s call a spade a spade, you want to be pro life, but philosophically, you want to keep a foot in your culture so you don’t look like Pat Robertson. So you’ve concocted a near impossible scenario so when it comes up in conversation with the elites you can look cool and say, “I don’t think it’s my place to force a woman to—”

What if a farmer is raped, impregnated and has a low chance of survival, can he still own another man? The Civil Rights of an unborn human aren’t removed because of what happens between the male and female that made him. You might still choose to kill the unborn baby, but give it the dignity to say, “When your mother is raped and going to die, I believe in the death penalty for the unborn baby.” At least now we’re dealing with reality, and I don’t mind immoral positions so much so long as we just level with what we’re actually doing. Don’t degrade another person by claiming the high moral ground as you won’t stop them from sucking him down the sink. It’s like being against slavery, but you could never tell a farmer how to run his farm.

“I don’t think it is my place to force a woman to sacrifice her life for a child she wasn’t prepared to conceive.”

Actually it’s the opposite of what you’re saying. It’s the fact that she is prepared to conceive that you provide her the opportunity for an abortion. And being a parent of four, and knowing every parent around me, nobody is prepared to conceive! Once again, it’s troubling to me that our people should be more rebellious than ever. We should be able to stand up to culture and make a fist more than ever. We can wear a mohawk or our men can wear a dress at work, but we carve, and retreat over the simple, normal, pro life stance.

“Which life is more justified in ending, the hopeless damsel or the virgin youth?”

All life is equally justified, made meaningful in the Image of God. Be cautious when you add a “but ______” after that statement. But in my experience, if a mother had to sacrifice her life for one of her children to live, I don’t know of many mothers who wouldn’t make that sacrifice. The tubal pregnancies are different in that you have the mother and the baby possibly dying, when an abortion would make it safer for the mother and take the baby. So you have a likelihood of one death, instead of two and that’s a pro life position, but so rare so as to be a non sequitor in most debate situations. We argue rape and incest, but those are really just used to justify the right to kill a baby who supposedly nobody wants to help— which is yet another lie.

Remember, always remember for the rest of your life: The culture is almost always wrong. Always has been, always will be. The mass public evolution of morals creates some of the most monstrous positions people have ever held.

[on Pat Robertson supporting Guiliani]

Unbelievable! How can you endorse a man with Giuliani’s marital background and his position on abortion? I will immediately be canceling my CBN monthly donation and redirecting funds to a morally conservative Christian organization.

[Apparently blaming Republicans for Hurricane Katrina]

Now we are all learning what it’s like to reap the whirlwind of fossil fuel dependence which [Mississippi Governor] Barbour and his cronies have encouraged. Our destructive addiction has given us a catastrophic war in the Middle East and--now--Katrina is giving our nation a glimpse of the climate chaos we are bequeathing our children.

In 1998, Republican icon Pat Robertson warned that hurricanes were likely to hit communities that offended God. Perhaps it was Barbour’s memo that caused Katrina, at the last moment, to spare New Orleans and save its worst flailings for the Mississippi coast.

There’s a great deal of ridicule being aimed at Pat Robertson for describing the catastrophic earthquake in Haiti as God’s retribution on the country for a deal with the Devil supposedly made by the leaders of the 1791 slave revolt in which they threw off French control. And Robertson is a foaming loon, to be sure—but when I dug for the source of the legend I found a curiously plausible account:

(links to http://www.americandaily.com/article/95)

It is a matter of well-documented historical fact that the nation of Haiti was dedicated to Satan 200 years ago. On August 14, 1791, a group of houngans (voodoo priests), led by a former slave houngan named Boukman, made a pact with the Devil at a place called Bois-Caiman. All present vowed to exterminate all of the white Frenchmen on the island. They sacrificed a black pig in a voodoo ritual at which hundreds of slaves drank the pig’s blood. In this ritual, Boukman asked Satan for his help in liberating Haiti from the French. In exchange, the voodoo priests offered to give the country to Satan for 200 years and swore to serve him. On January 1, 1804, the nation of Haiti was born and thus began a new demonic tyranny.

Greg Quinlan, an “ex-gay” activist who is slated to speak at the Family Research Council’s “Ex-Gay Pride Month” event later this July, told his personal story yesterday to Bradlee Dean and Jake McMillan of Sons of Liberty Radio.

Quinlan told the radio hosts that he once was a supporter of the Human Rights Campaign — “As I put it, what the Devil turned me to do I can now use for the Lord” — and it was during his time volunteering for HRC that he learned that Justices Anthony Kennedy and Elena Kagan are secretly gay. Kagan and Kennedy, Quinlan insisted, are “black-robed Nazis” who seek to “accommodate their own personal predilections, including their own sexuality.”

“Mr. Kennedy has a predilection on the down low,” Quinlan said, channeling Pat Robertson.

He added that President Obama is also “a down low president.”

Quinlan later asserted that gay rights advocates seek to bring about “the end of the church,” “destroy” the US Constitution—and rise to power just as they did in Nazi Germany.

After maintaining that the Nazis were led by “the butch, masculine types that still participate in homosexuality,” McMillan asked if Rachel Maddow, whom Dean unsuccessfully sued for $50 million, “would be considered a butch or a femme.” Quinlan answered that Maddow is both a butch (because she’s a Nazi) and a femme (because she wears lipstick): “She would definitely be a butch but she is a butch who has to be a femme, meaning she has to put on lipstick.” Quinlan and McMillan then warned that gays and lesbians are coming after children. “We speak to it from protecting the next generation. My gosh, the crimes are horrendous and we know what the end of it is, they are always going for the schools, they want little boys,” McMillan charged. Quinlan, agreed, saying that gays and lesbians want “little boys and little girls.”

2nd Timothy 3:12-13, “Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.” This is NOT optional to the Christian life. If your life is to be hid with Christ, then you need to testify against the world for its evils. This is every believer's duty. There are hundreds of mainstream, very popular, apostate Contemporary Christian Music (CCM) singers and ecumenical sinister ministers, who never suffer any real persecution for God.

They're all sold-out to Lucifer's New World Order, trying to unite the various religious (at the expense of THE TRUTH), butchering the Bible, and even embracing the biggest demonic cult in the world—Roman Catholicism. It is a tragic time in our nation. Pat Robertson's website has over 500 articles promoting the Catholic Church and the Pope, attempting to make the Pope look like a legitimate preacher of righteousness. In fact, the Pope is the Vicar of Hell, a man of sin who speaks for Satan, bound for the Lake of Fire will the bloods of billions of sinners upon his hands for deceiving them (Romans 10:3-4; Ephesians 2:8-9; 2nd Corinthians 11:13-15).

Most professed Christians never take a stand for nor against anything. They are like clouds without rain, useless. God has given to humanity the great responsibility and privilege of fetching souls to Jesus Christ with the Gospel (Psalm 126:5-6; Proverb 11:30; 2nd Corinthians 5:10-11; 1st Corinthians 9:16). God has given to us the duty to rise up against the evildoers (Psalm 94:16), and to stand up against the workers of iniquity. Galatians 5:11 specifically tells us as believers to REFUTE (Greek: elencho, meaning, “to expose”) all works of darkness. Hence, we ought to fight against the evil agendas ruining America.

We are living in a wicked generation that is so evil, women walk around hotels with a swimming pool 99% naked, standing in line at the front desk with their buttocks plainly visible, wearing the skimpiest panties and top possible. People have accepted this as the norm, simply because the underwear are colored. How insane! If you were to paint all the characters in the movie AVATAR flesh coloured instead of blue, it would look like an orgy of naked heathens. Bill Cameron paints the Na'vi characters all blue and people totally overlook the stark nudity and 99% nakedness of the characters. It is evil. Proverb 11:21, “Though hand join in hand, the wicked shall not be unpunished: but the seed of the righteous shall be delivered.”

One of the hardest things to stomach these days is churches that don't want the truth. IT'S HAPPENING EVERYWHERE!!! In March of 2015, a shocking 20,562 Presbyterian ministers in 10,083 churches approved of sex perverts getting married. Those churches have abandoned the truth that homosexuality is a grievous sin in God's sight, punishable by death in Old Testament times. Prior to 1962, homosexuality was a punishable crime in all 50 states. What changed? I'll tell you, the U.S. Supreme Court removed and banned God's Holy Word and prayer from America's classrooms in 1962-1963.

I had once attended a pseudo (false) Independent Baptist church whose radio show promoted the saying, “GOD WANTS US TO SPEAK UP, BUT SATAN WANTS US TO SHUT UP!” Ironically, they (the pastors) called me into the church office and told me to SHUT UP about the purity of the King James Bible! They told me to SHUT UP about all the new corrupt Bible versions. They told me to SHUT UP about Dr. John MacArthur's heresy on the blood, who denies that Jesus' blood is in Heaven on the Mercy Seat. They told me to SHUT UP about Martin Luther, who taught sacramental salvation still 12 years after he allegedly got saved in 1517. They told me to SHUT UP about the satanic lie of Lordship Salvation. They told me to SHUT UP and not to expose Rick Warren, Billy Graham, Paul Washer, Ray Comfort, Charles Stanley, Beth Moore, Pat Robertson, Joel Osteen, John Hagee, James Dobson and Jimmy Swagger's false teachings on salvation.

They told me to SHUT UP, accusing me of causing confusion and divisiveness in the church... FOR TELLING THE TRUTH!!! They wanted me to sit there in the pew each Sunday, sing and tithe, go through all the motions like a good puppet; while wearing a gag over my mouth, not being allowed to share fundamental Christian books with those sitting next to me, not permitted to share fundamental sermons with others. They called Dr. Jack Hyles “a cult” and said they forbade me from sharing Brother Hyles' sermons, especially anything proclaiming the exclusivity of the King James Bible. This is an Independent Baptist Church! What a crying shame. I literally left the so-called “church” in tears, realizing that I could not support such wickedness and apostasy.

They literally laughed in my face when I tried to hand them another copy of Dr. Al Lacy's awesome book, “NIV: THE ANTICHRIST'S BIBLE.” Isn't that something, professed men of God, pastors of a church, mocking and scorning THE TRUTH! It didn't come as a surprise that one of those shameful pastors boasted to me that he had recently attended a homosexual AWAB meeting. My, oh my! AWAB is of the Devil, straight out of the pits of Hell beneath. Our nation is going to Hell because our churches are going to Hell.

Literally, the heresy of Lordship Salvation is a false plan of salvation, which does not produce the new birth in Christ Jesus. The Apostle Peter preached the Gospel to Cornelius, and Cornelius believed and was saved. Peter did NOT tell Cornelius to do even one thing to be saved. NOTHING!!! Peter simply told the story of Jesus crucified on the cross and risen three days later. Cornelius believed the Gospel and was immediately saved. The lie of Lordship Salvation requires a high price to be saved. That's the satanic plan of salvation of Billy Graham, who says salvation will cost you a high price.

You cannot reason with the average pastor or Christian leader today concerning THE TRUTH. Heresies are creeping into our fundamental churches by the hour. The churches are boggled down with the heresy of Zionism (Pastor J. Vernon McGee refutes Zionism), worshipping the present-day apostate nation of secular Israel (MP3 by Dr. Texe Marrs exposing Zionism). Most believers, including Christian leaders, are woefully ignorant of the Holy Scriptures. From the government scandal of 501c3 state-licensed organizations, to the heresy of a Young Earth, the churches are being deceived.

Perhaps the most difficult truth to convince pastors of is that a diabolical New World Order exists. Most pastors actually think Islam was behind the 911 attacks, buying into the bogus official story hook, line and sinker. WAKE UP!!! The Illuminati (the Luciferian worshipping elite) masterminded, executed and orchestrated the 911 attacks (MP3 by 32-year New York City firefighter and police detective veteran, Rudy Dent) as a pretext to invade the Middle East and build a police state in the United States!

I hear pastors spewing hatred for Arabs and Muslims, while praising apostate Israel. The Jewish Talmud teaches that Jesus' mother was savagely raped by a Roman solider, denying the virgin birth. The Talmud says Jesus was boiled in human excrement and urine. Why don't pastors expose the Jewish religion of Judaism? Shameful Evangelist John Hagee is so corrupt and bought off by Zionists that he says Jews don't need to be born-again, because they are special and have their own covenant with God. However, Jesus warned Nicodemus (a religious leader) that unless a man (including every Jew) is born again, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God (John 3:3). Dr. Hagee says that Jesus never claimed to be the Messiah. Jesus did in fact claim to be the Messiah to the Samaritan woman at the well. John 4:25-26, “The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things. Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.” John Hagee is a Zionist false prophet!

I am wearied with today's false churches. As long as the money is coming in, nearly all churches don't care about THE TRUTH. It is almost unheard of these days to hear a sermon on Hell, fire and damnation in a big mega-church. You'll never hear Joel Osteen preach on the Lake of Fire. That's how those groups got to be so big, by tickling people's ears and scratching their backs with weak-kneed sermonettes. Literally, America is dying because of the woeful lack of Bible-preaching.

There's nothing worse than a group of affluent people who horde a church like greedy dogs, like they own it instead of God. I wouldn't stay in a church for 5-minutes that is controlled by a board of directors and/or a pulpit committee, where the pastor is hen-pecked and not free to preach as he ought. Our churches are filled with self-righteous religious hypocrites, who are as phony as a 3-dollar-bill, haughty and arrogant, never having known the depths of sin nor the depths of God's love, grace and mercy. Thus, they are religious SNOBS! Truthfully, they are steeped in deep sin themselves (pride, arrogance, self-righteousness, hate, envy, gossip and judging), but they don't see it, unable to see the forest for the trees. Some of the rottenest people you'll meet are devout churchgoers. One day they're treating you like a brother, and when you fail to dot your i's and cross your t's (going along with their program), they treat you like they never knew you. That's the way many religions operate, and it is foreign to Biblical Christianity. The Bible does not teach anyone to join a religious denomination. A 501c3 business is not a church. What Is A Church?

I love a church that loves THE TRUTH! I love a church that has a bus ministry! I love a church that preaches, uses and promotes only the King James Bible. I love a church that fights against sin in their community. I love a church that stands against the Devil's corrupt Bible versions. I love a church that teaches women ought not wear pants. What a joke to hear a pastor teaching about a new form of modesty, while most of the women on church staff are wearing pants, and they think that is modesty because the pastor approves of it. What a sad joke! People are leaving the churches to find God and real Christianity. Most pastors are merely collecting a pay check. God give us some men of God, who are willing to work a secular job while pastoring, so he can preach THE TRUTH without worrying about getting paid. That's why Jesus said NO MAN can serve God and mammon (wealth). You must choose between money and God, it cannot be both. If money is a priority, truth will be compromised!

There's a lot of false Christianity in the world. If there's one place in all the world where THE TRUTH ought to be welcomed, it is in a New Testament Church. Tragically, most churches don't want to hear the truth, and so they reject it. GOD WANTS US TO SPEAK UP, BUT SATAN WANTS US TO SHUT UP! We'll, I'm speaking up for Jesus!!!!!!! You just keep using your counterfeit Bibles. You just keep promoting the satanic perversion of the plan of salvation, called, LORDSHIP SALVATION! You just keep promoting wolves in sheep's clothing like Rick Warren, Paul Washer, John MacArthur and Martin Luther. You just keep going along to get along with homosexuals, false prophets, reprobates and ecumenical devils. AS FOR ME AND MY HOUSE, WE WILL SERVE THE LORD! (Joshua 24:15).

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[It's making me pay to read the entire article, but I just find the idea of John of all people to be born again to be downright hilarious]

John Lennon's Born-Again Phase
"Can He love me?" the former Beatle asked Oral Roberts. "I want out of hell."
AN EXCERPT FROM 'THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO THE BEATLES' BY STEVE TURNER| JANUARY 3, 2007

In March 1977 Yoko traveled with John Green to Cartagena in Colombia to meet a witch who had been recommended to her as someone "who could do anything." Green had to accompany her to check out the witch's validity. Yoko paid the witch sixty thousand dollars to perform a series of rituals culminating in the sacrifice of a dove. When they returned to New York; Yoko insisted that they had to fly via Los Angeles and Alaska to avoid having to fly in a northeasterly direction because she believed this would bring her bad fortune.

Next came one of the most extraordinary turnabouts in John's life. A television addict for many years (it was his way of looking at the world since he could no longer walk around anonymously), he enjoyed watching some of America's best-known evangelists—Pat Robertson, Billy Graham, Jim Bakker, and Oral Roberts. In 1972 he had written a desperate letter to Roberts confessing his dependence on drugs and his fear of facing up to "the problems of life." He expressed regret that he had said that the Beatles were more popular than Jesus and enclosed a gift for the Oral Roberts University. After quoting the line "money can't buy me love" from "Can't Buy Me Love" he said, "It's true. The point is this, I want happiness. I don't want to keep on with drugs. Paul told me once, 'You made fun of me for taking drugs, but you will regret it in the end.' Explain to me what Christianity can do for me. Is it phony? Can He love me? I want out of hell."

[Re. Pat Robertson's comments on Haiti.]

I can’t be 100% certain of all the details of Haiti’s history vis a vis satan worship. However, in my 63 years of living, I’ve heard enough over the years that there’s far too much smoke to be no fire—in fact, the fires MUST be quite serious given the level of smoke.

That’s just what I’ve heard in the MSM over the decades.

This whitewashing of Haiti and it’s past just doesn’t was with me. There’s too much evidence been in the public domain over the years.

The children who die are in Heaven. They have it great. They got the best deal.

Those alive and suffering are another story and all Christian hearts go out to them.

Christian money and goods are pouring toward them.

SATAN WORSHIP IS A HORROR.

The bad person is not the one pointing out that it’s a horror. The bad is participating in it. The bad is the consequences from it.

The word “feminism” is synonymous with rebellion. The biggest problem in America today is rebellion against godly authority, which begins in the home and marriage. The Holy Bible strictly forbids women from becoming preachers. God only knows the severe damage that has been caused, and continues to be caused, by rebellious women who blaspheme the Word of God by becoming preachers and pastors. It is not a matter of opinion; but rather—What saith the Scripture?

One of my favorite fundamentalist preachers (and Pastor Jack Hyles' mentor by 31 years of age), Evangelist John R. Rice (1895-1980) wrote a controversial book in 1941 called, “Bobbed Hair, Bossy Wives And Women Preachers!” Of course, there is no controversy if you believe the Bible. The Scriptures are very clear in this matter of authority, that men are to be in charge of the marriage, home and church.

Sadly, the Scriptural teachings that you are about to hear, have all but been forgotten in today's churches. Pastors have become afraid to preach the Word of God about women being in subjection (and in many cases are now women pastors). The church pastor is not the authority, the inspired Word of God is the authority. Each woman is to be under the authority of her husband (and if unmarried, her father). Women are supposed to learn at home from their husbands, and not ask questions at church. Feminist rebellion plagues churches and Christian marriages today, ruining homes and shaming our nation. To the same degree that rebellious women are ruling over men in America, homosexuality is also becoming a commonplace problem.

...

We know assuredly from the plain teaching of the Scripture that ALL women preachers and pastors are pulling on the same rope as the Devil, and are false prophets! No woman is permitted to do what Joyce Meyer, Melissa Scott, Beth Moore and other ungodly female preachers are sinfully doing—usurping church authority over men. Women preachers blaspheme the Word of God. It is wickedness!

Joyce Meyer is an ungodly woman, who disobeys the Word of God. Her net worth is a disgusting $25,000,000. For the fiscal year 2018 her reprobate so-called “ministry” took in $106,000,000. That's per year! Meyer's has blood on her hands, taking money that should have been given to genuine soulwinning New Testament churches, not her personal coffers. Truly, the love of money is the root of all evil (1st Timothy 6:10). Con artists like Pat Robertson and Joyce Meyer are funneling much needed money away from legitimate New Testament churches. The Bible says in 2nd Peter 2:3b, “their damnation slumbereth not.” I do not hate anybody, but if there were one group that I would hate first, it would be religious con artists who bilk their victims of hundreds of millions of dollars. The sodomite, harlot and murderer do not offend me nearly as much as televangelists!

The picture to the above right is worth 1,000 words. 2nd Corinthians 11:13-15, “For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.” Notice dear reader that God said their “end shall be according to their works,” which means they are not saved. The believer's “end” is Jesus Christ Himself. Romans 10:4, “For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.” Christ is the end of the law for every believer, bringing us safely under God's grace forever.

I know it is very tempting for a lot of women to speak, seeing the need for the truth to be preached. Ladies, the greatest thing you can do is to have many children, and raise them up for the Lord as darts against the Devil. And also ladies, the next best thing you can do is to be supportive of the man of God. Carefully notice in the following passage of Scripture, that a group of godly women helped take care of Jesus' material needs. Luke 8:1-3, “And it came to pass afterward, that he went throughout every city and village, preaching and shewing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God: and the twelve were with him, And certain women, which had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities, Mary called Magdalene, out of whom went seven devils, And Joanna the wife of Chuza Herod's steward, and Susanna, and many others, which ministered unto him of their substance.” I do not believe that anybody should send money to televangelists, who are a curse upon our land, are serve their own bellies and not the Lord Jesus Christ. I do believe however, that Christians ought to seek out local Bible-believing churches, that are soulwinning in the community and making a difference for Christ, and help meet the material needs of those pastors and churches. I said “needs,” not luxuries.

Men alone have the calling and duty from God to cry aloud against the sins of the land, and to preach the Gospel with authority to the masses, and to contend for the faith publicly, but women are to keep silence everywhere when men are present (as far as speaking with authority is concerned). A boisterous women preacher is as a broken tooth and a foot out of joint! Dr. John R. Rice is correct that if you removed all the women from the Charismatic Movement, it would vanish overnight! And the more that ungodly women enter into the clergy, and America continues her descent into the abyss of Sodom and Gomorrah, more women are following their evil lead into the pastorate, helping feminism and encouraging lesbianism. The truth is that many women today (like Joyce Meyer) do not fear God; thus, they merely don't care what God says, and are living in open rebellion against God, blaspheming the Holy Bible. Psalms 36:1, “The transgression of the wicked saith within my heart, that there is no fear of God before his eyes.”

I understand that many American women have a bad attitude, feeling contempt for a narrow-minded man like me who takes the Bible literally; but those women are fools, who will answer to God in eternity for their rebellion against masculine authority in the marriage, home, church and society (like my former wife who disrespects me all the time, who cruelly abandoned and divorced me in 2006). Look at the mess America is in today, because of the insane liberal movement to grant “rights” to feminists, abortionists, sodomites and other kooks, quacks and queers. Feminists are kooks. Abortion doctors are quacks. Homosexuals refer to themselves as queers! God's judgment is coming upon this wicked nation and I eagerly welcome and pray for it! Let every woman obey her own husband in all matters, lest the Word of God be blasphemed, and the Devil prosper further in the world by having more broken families.

But you say, surely Billy Graham must be in Heaven! A Christian lady recently said to me, that she has heard countless testimonies from people online, who said they were influenced and saved as a direct result of Billy Graham's preaching. May I say, I do not doubt that some people were led to God through Mr. Graham's influence, and at some point heard the Gospel from some other source and got saved. However, they didn't get the Gospel from Billy Graham, as I just evidenced to you. I have received testimonies from people who were drawn to a religious rock concert, or some ecumenical religious group, as their first step toward the light. But then over time they realized that something was wrong and they sought truth elsewhere, eventually finding their way to a good old-fashioned, Bible-believing, New Testament church. So, an unsaved person may feel drawn to a dynamic public figure like Billy Graham or John Hagee; or a fashionable person like Joel Osteen; or a persuasive man like Pat Robertson. But this does NOT necessarily mean these men are true men of God. In fact, all of these men preach a corrupted plan of salvation that includes works.

It is the same case with the modern Bible versions. I have heard some preachers claim that they were saved from a New International Version (NIV). No, you weren't. The truth is that many of the churches that use the modern corrupted seed, also use the incorruptible seed of the King James Bible (1st Peter 1:23), and so the truth is there mingled amongst lies! In such churches, as would be suspected, some people are saved and most others aren't saved. Those pastors will have blood on their hands for all the souls that spend eternity in the Lake of Fire, because they were deceived and misled by Satan's corruptible seed. Satan knows that he cannot completely get rid of the truth, so he does the next best thing, which is to obscure the truth in confusion. Satan publishes hundreds of English Bible versions to confuse everybody. The churches are confused today. People are confused on what it means to repent. They are confused on how to be saved. They are unsure about what God requires of them to be saved and stay saved. We know that once a person is saved, he is permanently saved and nothing else is required. Once a child of God, always a child of God!!!

I triple-dog dare you (and that's a serious dare!) to show me anywhere in the Holy Scriptures where following Christ is required to have eternal life. I triple-dog dare you to show me anywhere in the Word of God where it says to make a “vow” in order to be born-again. What is Billy Graham teaching: commitments, vows, following, surrendering to Christ? These are not the Good News (i.e., Gospel) of Christ's death on the cross, burial and bodily resurrection, by which we are saved through faith (1st Corinthians 15:1-6; Romans 1:16). I triple-dog dare you to show me anywhere from the Gospel of John, God's Gospel tract (John 20:31), where it mentions anything about making a vow, following, surrendering, or committing yourself to God to be saved!!! No, rather, we are taught to simply BELIEVE (trust) upon the name of Jesus. John 20:31, “But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.”

Former bus driver has sued the Capital Area Rural Transportation System, charging that the nine-county transit service discriminated against him based on his religion when he was fired for refusing to drive a woman to a Planned Parenthood clinic in January.

Edwin Graning, who was hired as a driver on April 1, 2009, was “concerned that he might be transporting a client to undergo an abortion” when he was assigned to transport two women to Planned Parenthood, according to his lawsuit, filed this week in U.S. District Court in Austin.

Graning is seeking re-instatement, back pay and undisclosed damages for pain, suffering and emotion distress. He is represented by lawyers from the American Center for Law & Justice, founded by evangelical Christian leader Pat Robertson.

[someone made a remark about Pat Robertson]

Better not talk smack about one of Gods faithful. It may not bode well for you on that great and terrible day.

[The term "fundamentalist" was hijacked by Pat Robertson and his ilk to refer to those who favor literally interpreting the Bible (while ignoring the inherent contradictions involved by doing so) and who try to make Christianity into a legalistic, instead of a loving, religion.]

Anyone who believes that there are contradictions in a literal interpretation of the Bible believes so only because they don't know the Bible.

[We need to return to real fundamentalism -- focusing on the fundamentals of Jesus' message of love for one another, helping the poor, etc.]

Actually, that wasn't the fundamentals of Jesus' message. In fact, it was really a peripheral issue.

The fundamentals of Jesus' message were:

1. Mankind is sinful
2. Jesus came to seek and to save that which is lost
3. Jesus is our sacrifice for sin
4. We must repent of our sin and be born again

What you're talking about is the Social Gospel, not the Biblical Gospel.

Perkins: There's More Evidence That God Is Behind Natural Disasters Than There Is For Climate Change

Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council alleged yesterday that people who agree with the scientific consensus regarding evolution and climate change are actually out of step with modern science.

Perkins, who has previously professed belief in Young Earth Creationism (the belief that the earth is only several thousand years old), said on Washington Watch that “the theory of evolution just doesn’t work when you consider all the holes, look at the fossil record, the molecular isolation, transitional difficulties, irreducible complexity, cyclical change, genetic limits, there are just so many holes and flaws in the evolutionary theory.”

He later compared the supposed problems with evolution to the purported flaws in climate science: “I remember a few years ago, it might have been Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson, made a reference to a hurricane or a storm being an act of God — it’s interesting that’s how we refer to some of these things in our insurance policies — they were ridiculed, saying ‘how dumb can you be?’ Well, there’s more to back that up than to say what’s happening in our environment, our climate, is because of people driving Suburbans or coal-fired power plants.”

Pat Robertson is a member of the Skull & Bones organization, and the 700 Club is a Masonic influenced show. I wish it weren't so, but unfortunately it is :(

Bible Question... Is Advocating Genocide Compatible With Christianity? [Insert Pat Robertson speech]

[A comment added after Pat Robertson's claim that "that the acceptance of homosexuality could result in hurricanes, earthquakes, tornadoes, terrorist bombings and possibly a meteor"]

Yet, in an apparent support of Robertson's claim, Ray Boltz, a well known Christian songwriter and musician, announced to his family he was gay on December 26, 2004, the same day the world's deadliest tsunami struck in the Indian Ocean.

[Regarding Pat Robertson's comments about the earthquake in Haiti]

Yes, Robertson is saying the Haitians deserved this disaster, and rightly so! He'd be right in saying that about any other country suffering such a disaster. We're ALL guilty of grievous sins against God and we're ALL deserving of death however it comes.

[Pat Robertson stated that the acceptance of homosexuality could result in hurricanes, earthquakes, tornadoes, terrorist bombings and "possibly a meteor"]

You have a problem with this? Why, you think that people can just do whatever they want to do and not have to pay a price for it? If you look on the internet you will see a sex industry established in Thailand. It should be no surprise to anyone the disasters that they have recently had there.

David Takes Down Goliath -- Anti-Jesus Group Right Wing Watch Terminated by YouTube After Chaplain Files Copyright Infringement Claims

WASHINGTON, Nov. 7, 2013 /Christian Newswire/ -- The anti-Christian group Right Wing Watch (RWW) had their YouTube account terminated today after repeated violations of copyright infringement, theft, and allowing followers to issue death threats against a Christian chaplain.

Former Navy Chaplain Gordon James Klingenschmitt, PhD, who is now a candidate for state representative in Colorado successfully persuaded YouTube to terminate the anti-Christian group's account, after RWW repeatedly stole, copied, and re-published without permission as many as 90 videos created and copyrighted by Chaplain's corporation, The Pray In Jesus Name Project.

RWW has been a thorn in the side of countless Christian ministries for years, quoting out of context ministers like James Dobson, Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, and political leaders like Michelle Bachmann and Alan Keyes. Unless YouTube restores their account, years of defamatory RWW video archives against countless Christians have now been deleted, effectively silencing their hate-speech campaign.

"I reached out in good faith to RWW's leadership at People for the American Way, but instead they published death threats against me," said the Chaplain. "I asked them to stop their theft and piracy of my original content, but instead they blogged against me boasting they could steal without consequences."

RWW even mocked the Chaplain here, claiming he didn't know how the internet works, and daring him to file suit.

Instead, the chaplain politely notified YouTube about 6 of the 90 copyright infringement claims, which crossed their limit of 3 claims.

YouTube properly responded by terminating the RWW account and deleting all their videos, causing panic at RWW headquarters, who blamed others for their own arrogance and theft.

The Bible says pride comes before destruction. That's a lesson for them, in how the internet works.

Alex Jones shares a belief with the Satanists: libertarianism, which is effectively, is founded on the Satanic tenet of “do what thou wilt.” Ultimately, however, the libertarian movement in the United States is a front for the CIA and World Bank, through its promotion of the economic theories of the Mont Pelerin Society, which is associated with the occult tradition of synarchy.[13]

MK-Ultra agent Timothy Leary was also a libertarian and supported the candidacy of Ron Paul for president in 1988 as leader of the Libertarian Party. A floppy disk was sent out as an invitation to a Ron Paul fundraiser hosted by Timothy Leary at his home in Benedict Canyon, which included the following message from Leary:

Thank you for joining me today in support of Ron Paul and the Libertarian Party. As we enter these closing years of the Roaring Twentieth Century, we’re going to see personal computers enhance our lives in ways we can scarcely imagine. Fellow Cyberpunk Chuck Hammill has helped me assemble a collection of bits and bytes you may enjoy.

If you’re wise ... digitize![14]
Alex Jones admires the theories of Rothbard, a student of one of the leading members of Mont Pelerin, Ludwig von Mises. Rothbard was also a co-founder of the Charles Koch Foundation in 1974, with one of the infamous Koch brother, Charles, chairman of the board and chief executive officer of the conglomerate Koch Industries. David Koch ran as a Libertarian Vice-Presidential candidate in 1980, and advocated the abolition of Social Security, the FBI, the CIA, and public schools.

In July 1976, Charles Koch Foundation changed its name to the Cato Institute, which serves as a libertarian think tank headquartered in Washington, DC. According to the 2011 Global Go To Think Tank Index Report (Think Tanks and Civil Societies Program, University of Pennsylvania), Cato is number 14 in the “Top Thirty Worldwide Think Tanks” and number 6 in the “Top Fifty United States Think Tanks.” Cato also operates Libertarianism.org which features, among others, the writings of Rothbard and Robert Anton Wilson.[15] In 1986, Wilson and Shae’s The Illuminatus! Trilogy won the Prometheus Hall of Fame Award, designed to honor classic libertarian fiction.

Todd Brendan Fahey, who was a guest at DisinfoCon, has been featured in the pages of right-wing conspiracy sites like Ron Paul’s associate’s LewRockwell.com, as well as Patriotist.com, and LibertyForum.org. A longtime writer for EtherZone.com. In or about 1989, Fahey was introduced to LSD and ended up infiltrating a group surrounding “Captain” Al Hubbard, the so-called “Johnny Appleseed of LSD,” who worked closely with Aldous Huxley in MK-Ultra.[16]

Fahey became best known for Wisdom’s Maw: The Acid Novel, a “factionalization” of the CIA’s MK-Ultra acid-tests and their influence on the sixties counterculture. The book got rave reviews in the Village Voice, High Times, and a number of underground magazines, and gained the attention of cyperpunk personalities like Grateful Dead lyricist John Perry Barlow and R.U. Sirius, who is associated with Metzger. Fahey boasts of having read Gary Allen’s None Dare Call it a Conspiracy under the influence of LSD, and then joined the John Birch Society (JBS), though he continued to use psychedelic drugs.

Fahey had worked as a spy for the Defense Intelligence Agency chief Lt. General Daniel O. Graham, and served as aide to CIA agent Theodore L. “Ted” Humes, Division of Slavic Languages, who had worked with William F. Buckley in Japan against North Korea and China.[17] Fahey also worked with Major General John K. Singlaub, an ex-OSS officer and head of the notorious “Phoenix Program” in Vietnam. Fahey worked for Singlaub within the World Anti-Communist League (WACL), a CIA front with ties to the John Birch Society through the Western Goals Foundation.[18]

Western Goals was a private intelligence dissemination network active on the right-wing in the US. Western Goals was also associated with Reinhard Gehlen, with whom they shared a connection with the Order of the Knights of Malta (SMOM). The chairman of the Knights of Malta in the United States was Peter Grace, a key figure in Operation Paperclip.[19] Grace’s company, W.R. Grace & Company, was founded by Peter’s grandfather, William Grace, who was a close associate of George de Mohrenschildty. Western Goals was finally wound up in 1986 when the Tower Commission revealed it had been part of the Iran-Contra funding network. Oliver North identified Western Goals founder John Singlaub as his liaison to the White House.[20]

Singlaub, along with John Birch society members like J. Peter Grace, were also members of the Council for National Policy (CNP), wiich has been endorsed by Alex Jones. It was mainly through the backing of the CNP that the JBS’s rabid opposition to the so-called “communist” conspiracy assisted in the rise of the popularity of Ron Paul and the Tea Party, who spearheaded the cause of libertarian ideals. However, although the JBS attributed the root of such a conspiracy to the CFR, the early leadership of the CNP was comprised of members of the CFR, including Peter Grace.[21] The CNP was described by The New York Times as a “little-known group of a few hundred of the most powerful conservatives in the country,” who meet three times yearly behind closed doors at undisclosed locations for a confidential conference.[22]

CFR member Jesse Helms was also a key figure in founding the CNP. A 33º Mason, Helms played a leading role in the development of the Christian right, and was a founding member of the Moral Majority in 1979.[23] Helms was close to Billy Graham, as well as Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell, who also were members of the CNP. Among CNP’s founding members were also Senator Trent Lott, former US Attorneys General Ed Meese, John Ashcroft, Col. Oliver North and philanthropist Else Prince, mother of Erik Prince, the founder of Blackwater USA.

[Comment on CNN article about the Pat Robertson "deal with the devil" comment]

I've just watched a few videos on Voodoo at YouTube. Now I know that Robertson is absolutely right. This cult is absolutely demonic and barbaric. We all should thank the living God that he intervened in Haiti and destroyed many of those cult places together with the priests.

Many heavy-metal rockers have professed to become born-again Christians. For example: Brian “Head” Welch did an interview on The 700 Club with Pat Robertson. Brian doesn't mention the cross. He doesn't mention the Gospel. Brian only talks about surrendering, following and giving his life to Jesus. That is not salvation! Even the Apostle Judas followed Jesus. Judas had a relationship with Jesus. Matthew 27:3 even says Judas turned from his sins (i.e., false repentance). I am not saying that Brian Welch is not saved, but I haven't seen any evidence that he is. The same holds true for Alice Cooper, Dave Mustaine (Megadeth), Michael Sweet (Stryper) and other so-called “Christians” of heavy-metal. Alice Cooper boasts of his alleged Christian faith, but includes his Mormon grandfather. Mormons are not born-again Christians! Mormonism is a Satanic religion of perversion, bizarre Masonic rituals and doctrinal error. I question the salvation of all these rockers!
[…]
If anyone has a “warped view of Christianity,” it is Alice Cooper!!! His real name is Vincent Damon Furnier. In fact, there is plenty in the Bible that says you cannot become a rock star! I could write a big book on the subject! For one, God forbids idolatry. Exodus 20:3, “Thou shalt have no other gods before me.” Rock stars are idols (whether they intend to be or not) among the public. Here below is the album cover for Alice Cooper's upcoming February 2021 album release, titled: “Detroit Stories.” ...
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Life is what happens to us when we're making big plans! Life is short, Hell is hot and eternity is a long time! Please make sure you have been born-again. Getting saved is free, easy and simple. The main reason why I doubt the salvation testimony of the aforementioned people is simply because I don't see a clear Gospel testimony. I do hear them adding a bunch of junk that is not the Gospel. Ladies and gentleman, these entertainers are a bunch of phonies, all part of the Devil's New World Order. Please do not be deceived.

Why do atheists rely on blanket statements like saying nonatheists don't care about making the world better

It seems like they just overgeneralize based on the fake religious people that get talked about in the media like ann coultry and pat robertson, rather than from a real understanding of religion. But it's rather convenient that they never mention the people like Martin Luther KIng or Gandhi. Because since when has an atheist done more in terms of major social progress than say Martin Luther KIng or Gandhi to be talking like that?

Pat Robertson is right on. And I am tired of Christians being soft and fuzy about God loving all. God loves, but His love is constrained by His Holiness and Jealousy for His Glory. This is why instead of willy nilly forgiving people, He preferred to have His Son suffer the consequences of their sins than to sully His righteous character.

And to attribute the great creation of the Universe and mankind as its crowning glory to Satan, Darwin and Evolution, I can assure you, that God is angry. Nothing ticks God off more than attributing what rightfully belongs to Him to other demigods, semigods and hemidemisemigods. That is theft, plagiarism, vandalism and wicked banditry.

I wouldn't equate the liberals with the poor and the sick, unless you're referring to a liberal's spiritual health." "So, you are saying that it is Christians [like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson] that are the problem, right? Homosexuals and Liberals are the good people, and Christians are the bad people, eh? You seem to have it all figured out my friend. What solutions do you propose?

(Pat Robertson is "remarkably pleased" with Obama, but gives Bush a low grade as President)

Are we the only ones left who see the truth?

Since I came to Kilkenny in Aug 1994, I have discovered a great deal about just how the Satanists Network conspires to abduct innocent people for the purpose of Satanic Ritual murder! I am accusing the Born Again Christian Movement of being a major player in the Satanic Network's organisation for abducting people. The Born Again Christians is not the only pseudo religious group which is controlled or infiltrated by devil-worshippers but it is at the cutting edge for the purpose of recruiting new members into its satanic group and subsequently for abduction of suitable victims. Indeed there can be no doubt that throughout the Roman Catholic Church one will surely find a surplus of clergy who worship the demon; ArchBishop Millingo will stand witness to that! Judging by reports from around the world , there are few so-called respectable Christian Churches where the servants of the demon have not infiltrated or influenced! The Jehovah's Witnesses and the Mormons have been the subject of Satanic allegations!

The Born Again Christians, as I will refer to the Irish fundamentalist Christians, were set up in Ireland by USA citizens as far back as the late 1970s. It never ceases to amaze me , why the Born Agains in the USA , Ireland and the UK are treated as if they are above suspicion in every respect. Pat Robertson's group , CBN Born Again Christians , are notorious for their commercialisation of the Christian religion. These TV evangelists make huge profits from their international broadcast Christian programs. Robertson ia also a self proclaimed anti-communist and friend and associate to many extreme right wing groups, especially in Central America. So why should these extremist Christians be above suspicion? The reason is, their friends and associates control the press and media in the USA and Europe!

The mayor of San Antonio told a group of conservative Christians that she believes poor people are responsible for their own poverty.

Mayor Ivy Taylor spoke earlier this month to the Christian Coalition, the successor to the nonprofit political organization founded by Pat Robertson, where the 46-year-old Democrat was asked to comment on “systemic causes of generational poverty, reported the Huffington Post.

“Since you’re with the Christian Coalition, I’ll go ahead and put it out there that to me, it’s broken people,” Taylor said. “People not being in a relationship with their creator and therefore not being in a good relationship with their families and their communities and not being productive members of society.”

Joseph Stalin, Atheist: 20 million plus dead
Mao-Tse-Tung, Atheist: 40 million plus dead
Pol Pot, Atheist: 2 million dead
Kim-Il-Sung, Atheist: 5 million dead
Fidel Castro, Atheist: 1 million dead

Pope John Paul II, Anita Bryant and Pat Robertson put together have murdered no one. When will people understand this: atheism = mass murder.

Rabbi Levin: Hurricane: Global Warming or G-d’s Warning?

Tens of billions in losses, 50 dead, scientists say that Sandy is the worst N.Y. hurricane in 800 years! Some insurance policies still call this kind of occurance an ACT OF G-D. But where are our religio-conservative leaders to interpret what’s happening?

Remember when Dr. Falwell and Dr. Pat Robertson attributed 9/11 to the homosexual agenda and abortion? Guess our leaders have a huge problem doing that now.

After all, the dirty secret they don’t tell us is that Romney supports homosexual adoption and Boy Scout leaders, homosexualization of the military, “domestic partnerships”/civil unions, homosexual K-12 mandated school curricula, homosexual youth day proclaimations, $50 taxpayer funded abortion in Massachussetts, and the list goes on.

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Here’s a traditional Jewish/Torah approach to the hurricane and the election:
1-G-d multitasks. There are probably various reasons for the hurricane. Each person should repent for his/her personal shortcomings.
2-Days after same gender marriage began in New York, we were hit by Hurricane Irene. Days before the national election, (no significant repentance in NY or anywhere in the US,) Hurricane Sandy hits, further damaging our fragile economy. In 2 days: An earthquake in California, an “almost” tsunami in Alaska, Hawaii and Hurricane Sandy in the East. Sleep on—
3-Daily, millions of Jews recite Psalms 147 & 148: (147)”He who dispatches His utterance earthward; how swiftly His Commandment runs! He who gives snow—scatters frost—hurls His ice—before His cold, who can stand?...He blows His wind—the water flows—”

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What should G-d fearing people do?

A. Repent personal and communal transgressions.
B. Defeat pro-homosexual union legislation and referenda especially in the states of Maine, Maryland, Minnesota and Washington.
C. Do not vote for any candidate who supports an anti-G-d or anti-family agenda or legislation.

If Obama wins and the Senate is Republican, they can act as a strong loyal opposition, hindering much of the Obama agenda. However, if Romney (a wolf in sheep’s clothing) wins, even a Republican Congress will not significantly oppose Romney’s anti-family efforts. The results would be morally and spiritually catastrophic. It could be the end of the religio-conservative movement!

D. Urge your conservative and religious leaders to speak out and lead!

Forward this statement to your e-mail lists and urge them to do the same. We must defend His values.

[Regarding Pat Robertson's quote, "You say you're supposed to be nice to the Episcopalians and the Presbyterians and the Methodists and this, that, and the other thing. Nonsense, I don't have to be nice to the spirit of the Antichrist."]

"As far as the antichrist remark, I never said that was a threat. I said it was hateful. Quit moving the goal posts."

You must be a Democrat. I don't see ANY HATE in it at all.

"do you or do you not believe that a group would be rightfully offended if they were called Satanic?"

Being OFFENDED is NOT HATE. Stop moving the GOAL POSTS!

And there's one more thing: how come you atheists can't just respond with a NORMAL debate WITHOUT going to the CHILDISH use of harsh language? Could it be because believers like me are RIGHT that guys like you want to take over the world, just like Bin Laden AND Pat Robertson, and eliminate anyone that doesn't agree with you?