#transphobia

Like homophobia, but for transgender people

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Why do trans "women" think they look convincing as women?

( SummerGrl )
It's a mental illness. They are not connected with reality. Delusional beliefs. I think it's cruel that society is lying to these men because it just pushes them further into their delusions and if anything breaks them from that, they can't handle it. That's why they get so overly aggressive and violent by things as simple as misgendering. Their overblown reactions do not match the perceived slight.

( mathlover )
Because people use the phony pronouns.

At work, people are forced to because otherwise the TIMs get people fired.

Everywhere else people are afraid of these mentally unstable men lashing out verbally; making a scene; yelling; and, especially for women, becoming violent. So they use the phony pronouns.

There should be clear and concise stickers EVERYWHERE - millions of them - stating that nobody actually believes the phony pronouns and that when these men hear "she/her" they should hear he/him because that's what we all really mean. They should have to see, everywhere they look, that no one actually believes they are women.

( no- )
That’s the problem with “true trans”. “Truscum” think men who pass as women are the only ones who should be allowed to colonize female only spaces because they’re properly transitioning, not the “fake transes” who make them look bad. But here’s the thing: every single “true trans” thinks he passes, every single one of them perceives himself as non-threatening and doing the trans thing right. They’re delusional. Blaire White doesn’t pass, he only happens to be easier on the eyes than an AGP crossdresser. Everything is always self-ID with these people, including the dysphoria diagnoses they easily get by lying to their doctors, who are afraid to challenge them regardless. They’re unreliable narrators, so why should they be trusted to decide that reality doesn’t apply to them because they believe their own charade? Nonsense.

( hard_headed_woman )
As long as people contribute to the delusion, TIMs can pretend they pass. Deep down, they know they don't. Just like deep down, they know they will never, ever be women despite some of these idiots thinking that surgery and hormones make them an actual woman.

[...]

Gilgamesh de Uruk #transphobia #wingnut #racist memory-alpha.fandom.com

Diversity is a good thing, but it should never be done at the expense of any group of people. In the last 10 years there have been countless examples of a white character being race-swapped into a person of color, but I can't think of a single example of a race-swap in the opposite direction or a race-swap between two non-white races. That clearly shows bias against white people.

Trans people are not an oppressed minority. Yes, they have mental health problems and a much higher suicide rate than the general population. But otherwise, they are some of the most privileged people in Western society. In situations where one transwoman wants to use the women's locker room and a dozen women feel uncomfortable, the desire of the transwoman wins out every time. That's privilege. I'm in favor of equal rights for everyone, but participating in sporting competitions against the opposite sex is not a human right. Making irreversible bodily changes while still a child is not a human right either.

Canondorf108 #transphobia #dunning-kruger #quack memory-alpha.fandom.com

I think that it should be noted that not all gay people support the "intersectional" pride flag ("intersectionality" being a contentious ideology that many people believe is racist), or believe in pride parades, or are convinced that the trans issue really has anything to do with broader homosexuality. Some gays point out that trans surgery may be preventing adult homosexuals from ever discovering their sexuality, by administering treatment to them at a young age, before they can decide their path in life, with the experience of time. I would point out that removing healthy tissue from a person, for a purely psychological reason, could be a violation of the doctor's hippocratic oath, i.e. do no harm. I would also point out that administering drugs that stop a person ever undergoing puberty, likely sterilising them, preventing them from ever passing on their genes, or choosing at some future time, is a moral and ethical issue of considerable controversy.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Flawless logic
image

( Laurel )
"What [...] if you see a [woman who] has short hair [...] or [...] no make-up?" I would assume that, since you're poisoned by this gender nonsense, you'd immediately assume she's a trans man even though assuming gender is wrong.

Y'all couldn't make sense with the biggest sense manufacturing plant in the universe.

( notsofreshfeeling )
"Dear Jake, Do yourself a big favor and distance yourself from your manipulative and gaslighting 'friend.' He knows just as well as you, that adult human males are men, and if he's sucking a dick, then he is bi or gay. You'll only affirm his internalized homophobia by playing along and agreeing that the men who fuck him are 'straight.' Don't waste your time with these sorts of people and just go live your best life."

( crodish )
Fuck off with this bullshit. How are these people so fucking delusional that they'll be sucking each other's DICKS and still go "no homo bro, I'm STRAIGHT, sucking dicks as another man is STRAIGHT", all just because one man says "I'm not a man, this is girldick"??? I fucking hate how regressive this is. There's so much fucking internalized homophobia here.

Also jesus, that last comment. It confirms everything we already know about what they think makes a "woman" - everything except being an adult human female. And the audacity to say that a man in a fucking wig and a dress is the exact same as a woman with fucking short hair and cargo pants!! Jesus.

I can't believe the state of how brainwashed these people are. How does it get this bad? (Rhetorical.)

( AadirMorgendorfer )

Well, what happens if you see a girl that has short hair instead of long? Or small breasts instead of big ones? Or one that has no makeup at all? Or one in cargo pants?

I would assume that you'd still think that, in fact, she's still a girl.

And what happens if you see a girl with male pattern baldness, and a wig to conceal it? Breast forms instead of actual breasts? 5 o'clock shadow? A body built like a fridge and a pair of size 11 feet? A penis and a hairy ballsack? I'm sure you still assume she's a girl, though, right?? Because this combination of traits is definitely just the same as small breasts and lack of makeup 🙃

PluribusDriver #homophobia #transphobia #wingnut memory-alpha.fandom.com

Can we request to have the pride flag removed from the logo?

Sure, there are many different cultures and viewpoints in the world of Trek, but if someone wants to follow a faith, or exercise their innate differences, they usually do it with modesty, in private, or in sole company of others just like them. Odo is shy about his transformations and was always hesitant to shapeshift in public. Worf and Kira exercise their respective religions in the privacy of their own quarters or sanctuary. Data curbs his desire to quote time to the seconds place, and routinely attempts to fit in my adopting his crewmates' styles and mannerisms. Sisko keeps his African decorations in his own quarters and very rarely wore the garb when in someone else's company. Klingon "pride" celebrations were almost always strictly Klingon-only affairs.
[…]
If you had a different viewpoint in Star Trek, you kept it to yourself, unless you were in command and could offer a solution to a problem based on your own outlook. Innate differences in the physical characteristics of the species were hard to hide, but you never saw anybody shoving those differences in people's faces (except when Laas decided to fog the entire promenade). During issues concerning the Prime Directive, which were often catalysts for drawing out the stronger emotions in the crew, it was always the Captain (and the Star Fleet rulebook, technically) who had the last say.
[…]
Anyways, here's the TLDR: Pride flag is just that: a symbol of pride that was borne out of the warring communities of present-day Earth. It represents a divided world. United people don't need flags to broadcast their differences. A pride flag doesn't align with the visions of Gene Roddenberry or Starfleet. If you want to affix some sort of flag that embraces the spirit of Star Trek, you should perhaps design a world government flag which might represent a united world? Please remove the rainbow flag.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

image

( Sheva )
Hint: None of them are the good type.

( RighteousIndignation )
it doesn't matter, single sex spaces are based on sex, mens and womens separate awards are based on sex.

female ex cons are not barred from using the ladies, laurence fox isn't banned from voting and no matter how much I dislike Nigel Forage he should not have his bank account closed for wrong think.

good or bad is irrelevant in a free society.

( overanddone )
There are good ones?

( OwnLyingEyes )
This. It's matters of degree as to how awful TIMs can be, but men declaring themselves to be women are already invading women's spaces and identity. The act of men 'being trans' itself is not a neutral act; it's inherently appropriative in a way that's actively harmful to and disrespectful of women.

( Unicorn )
That's a good point. I was initially thinking "well I think there are good trans people," as in, trans people are people and people can do good things.

But like, the act of being trans is essentially an act of lying to oneself and expecting all around them to believe in their personal lies. That is not "good," that is dishonest.

I don't think there is any way one can spin people expecting everyone around them believe in their delusions is "good."

Maybe if there is a trans person who is essentially a gender-non-conforming person who accepts their birth sex? But at that point, I don't know if they would even be considered trans?

( OwnLyingEyes )
Yeah, I know of exactly one TIM who to the best of my knowledge meets those criteria, Miranda Yardley. He doesn't use women's spaces and doesn't make people play along and has basically just said 'dressing like this makes me feel better because dysphoria.' Which is fine. He can go right ahead. But for so much of 'good trans,' it reads like when a man says yes, a woman says no, and the man starts in with the 'just the tip' nonsense and tries to act like that's an acceptable "compromise." These are still men who think women's boundaries are up for them to negotiate or override, who think that what they believe is 'fair' should determine where the line falls.

( overanddone )
exactly. There mere declaration of being 'trans" precludes "good". They are liars, and untrustworthy from the start

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

"You know, if you go in there, there's no coming back."
image
( sineadsiobhan )
Once you really and truly peak, there’s no going back. That’s why I don’t believe any account who says they’re former TERFs,

( Radishe )
If you listen to any of those "former TERFs" screeds, they never know any actual talking points and it sounds like a TRA version of what they think TERFs believe.

( cranberrysalad )
Or they’re “trans exclusionary” but not radical feminists. Typically really far right conservatives who leave the cult, don’t know how to think for themselves, and get sucked into trans ideology the same way they got sucked into religious doctrine.

( TheDirtyYumejo )
I've heard of TRA to TERF, but never the reverse. How often does that happen?

( magicianly7 )
it feels like an amateur psyop attempt bc it’s hard to imagine considering TRAs are the kind of people who will hold having ever been a TERF as bad as like, being a murderer. (come to think of it, they let actual predators slide back into their communities more often than they do anyone who said something against trans ideology.) that sounds exaggerated but they’re always fearmongering like “TERFs are fascists that want you DEAD!!!” and they will like, follow someone’s accounts for years to call them out for one “out of line” remark. hardly anyone could do that even on anon without lots of dogpiling

( Unicorn )
People ultimately want the truth. I believe people want justice, fairness, and honesty.

Trans ideology provides none of that.

( Caerulea )
Those things are what women want.

I'm pretty sure most men actively do not want those things. It would make it impossible to have the hierarchy that they need, and they would also not be able to use women as they please.

Babylon Bee #wingnut #transphobia #sexist babylonbee.com

Trans Pro Golfer Outed As Man After He Flawlessly Parallel-Parks Golf Cart
ORLANDO, FL — After managing to hide his true gender while winning a women's golf tournament, local man Hailey Davidson was outed as a man after flawlessly parallel parking his golf cart as he was leaving the course.

"That's no woman! It's a man!" cried onlookers as the cart whipped into perfect position. "We've been had... no wonder he's six-foot-four and drives the ball three hundred yards!"

According to sources, Davidson had previously competed as a male golfer before one day realizing that golf was easier if you hit from the women's tees. "That's when it clicked," said Davidson in a rich baritone voice. "I shaved several strokes off my golf game instantly. It's an incredible golf hack -- I'm honestly surprised I was the first person to figure it out."

With a skirt thrown over his muscular legs, Davidson had passed himself off as a woman throughout the tournament despite towering over the competition and looking like a dude. "I had my suspicions when Davidson chugged a six-pack of Coors Light on the back nine and then peed in the rough on 17," said fellow competitor Lacy Armstrong. "Then he zipped that cart right into the perfect parallel parking space, and I knew."

At publishing time, Davidson had announced he was now a seventy-year-old woman after realizing playing from the senior's tees could shave another three strokes.

NoLoveDeepWeb #sexist #transphobia kiwifarms.st

(Submitter’s note: This is about a YouTuber who has been exposed as a serial sexual harasser. A deadname has been removed.)

I cannot fathom what Emile must be going through right now as some of his closest friends are turning their backs on him over virtually fucking nothing. No proof from any of the rogue's gallery coming forward to speak up against him and the laughably shit proof from the troon, and yet they're treating him like he went out on a raping spree or something. Fuck Masae, fuck AntDude, fuck Jon and Lucah for being backstabbing cunts, and most of all fuck [Emily]. More than anything, I really hope Emile isn't letting all of this bullshit get to him. These kinds of overblown accusations are what lead to autists like him an heroing.

Kamuroshiryu #homophobia #transphobia deviantart.com

I don't follow much wrestling in general, but American UFC wrestler Sean Strickland got quite the haymaker for the wokiots -- especially those that corrupted the LGB community circle -- and the globalist tyranny that has been throwing us "peasants" down, especially during the era of the Bat Ship Crazy Pandemic.

Political Moonshine #wingnut #transphobia #racist #conspiracy politicalmoonshine.substack.com

For well over a year now, the Intelligence Community has been tediously and incrementally operating to remove both Donald Trump and Joe Biden from the 2024 ballot in what amounts to a complete erasure of the slate. Begrudgingly, the IC seems to have accepted and reconciled the fact that despite a wide array of ongoing and future operations to intercede on The People’s will, Trump will be the 2024 nominee. What the IC cannot accept; however, is Trump becoming president. Those operations are guaranteed to continue.

Meanwhile, the IC can’t afford to re-install Biden for a second term either, because even the most partisan Democrats are distancing themselves from that dumpster fire.
.<...>
The analysis is clear in indicating that Barack Obama will get what amounts to his fifth and likely sixth terms.

In the picture to replace Biden are two clear favorites: California Governor Gavin Newsom and former First Lady Michelle Obama.

This appears to be the general consensus in identifying a Biden replacement and Michelle becomes the obvious interface for Barack’s fifth and sixth terms.
<...>
If the leaked reports presumably from the IC about Barack’s pre-presidency sexuality are accurate; and the wide speculation about Michelle being a male are equally accurate as was once posited by a now dead Joan Rivers, it means that ‘Dynastic Bush’ paved the way for Michelle with the entire trans agenda years in advance.

Otherwise the trans agenda and now pervasive Diversity, Equity & Inclusion policies, which is the umbrella for everything culturally wrecking the nation in the public and private sectors, would not have become compulsory or subject to federal and state funding.

Cultural Marxism is overturning fundamental aspects of humanity.
<...>
The Intelligence Community’s perception management operations are shoehorning and bullying the population into ‘trans acceptance’ so it can be shoehorned into accepting the first trans couple to occupy the White House for the third time.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: JK Rowling says she would 'happily do two years in jail' if a future Labour government makes it a hate crime to call someone by wrong pronouns | Daily Mail Online

( RuneOwl )
Imagine the PR disaster that would be for trans activists. There’s no defending literal fascists who would throw a beloved author in jail for simply telling the truth while letting trans rapists run amok.

( WatcherattheGates )
I honestly think the fact she has said this will make it impossible for Labour to enact such legislation.

( Jehane )
Usually, when people start to explain what they would do in certain circumstances, I don't believe them simply because it's easy to say "Oh, I TOTALLY would oppose [insert whatever] and suffer the consequences, yay me", but a completely different thing to stick to that because when push comes to shove, most people tend to step down, and quite understandably so.

I believe JKR is the exception to that and would actually do those two years in jail for "misgendering" some idiot or other. That woman is incredibly badass, never backs down no matter how many threats and insults come her way, and I just love how she gets back at those idiots with witty, snarky comments.

( Only_Women_Are_Women )
They would put her in a cell with a violent male too, just to stick it to her.

I know that the Tories are mostly worthless. I know that. But please do not vote Labour back in ever. It could actually get even worse for women.

Do you know how much "euphoria" and "trans joy" it would give male sex perverts to see women jailed for saying no to male sexual fetish?

Labour will make that happen. They're proud to say they will make that happen.

( xy_equals_guy )
If this law comes into effect, I propose that all UK women publicly misgender every autogynephile they can think of on social media. They can't punish us all!

( itsnotaboutewe )
I am willing to go to jail over this issue. I would worry about the cost of solicitors and such but maybe I could crowdfund for that.

Imagine the sheer number of GC women in prison of that happened. Any man with courtroom onset ladyfeelz would think twice before seeking a transfer to the women's estate if it was full of very angry terfs.

( Only_Women_Are_Women )
I fear violent men in wigs would get transferred in just to beat us to death in our cell.

BehindtheCurtain, BondiBlue & Omina_Sentenziosa #transphobia ovarit.com

The Far Left Only Tolerates Trans Because It is a Force for Destabilization

( BehindtheCurtain )
I think they support both TIM and radical Islam because they are both male supremacy movements

( BondiBlue )
Those TIMs who get off on being “submissive Muslima brides” donning the burqa as fetish gear are among the most grotesque things the male animal has come up with.

And yet even ISIS finds “trans harem girls” to be repulsive. They sure as hell know what a woman is when they’re raping her. But our ostensibly liberal politicians consider this perversity stunning and brave.

( Omina_Sentenziosa )
The far left doesn' t tolerate trans, it fully embraces it. They share the same core values, starting with the position of women and men.

This explains why the radical left, despite claiming to be feminist, has absolutely zero problem with tossing women to the wolves

This is something I have seen often: how is possible that so-called feminists are throwing women under the bus? Simple, because they are not feminists. That word has been twisted like many others and bastardized so much that it means something completely different, even though they worked hard at mantaining a working cover so that the most naive people could still be drawn by its original meaning.

It' s like wondering how TIMs can be so hateful of women despite claiming to be women. They are not women, and them claiming to be is proof number one that they hate women. Far leftists and so-called feminists are doing the same thing.

( BondiBlue )
The Spectator has a very intriguing article which argues that the “Palestine project” as we know it today was a Soviet/KGB creation intended to sow discord in the West.

https://archive.ph/2rmya

Same thing with the movement for “queerness,” as James Lindsay and others have explored: it’s a “culturally Marxist” weaponization of dogmatic religiosity, aimed at destruction under the guise of “liberation.”

Except instead of liberating from capital exploitation, these nihilistic projects are just enriching pharma and the war machine, while leaving dead and mutilated women and children in their wake.

Revolutions always devour the young.

BellaBlue, crodish & pennygadget #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: India decides Trans and Queer rights more important than LGB- headed the Iran way.

( BellaBlue )
I read comments over on r/IndiaSpeaks and the commenters there were saying "We saw what America is like with their trans bullshit and we don't want that here. It started with gay marriage, and now look at the state of the U.S."

( crodish )
I hate this so much. That it always, ALWAYS goes back to, "we gave them gay marriage, and look what happened. We warned you this would be a slippery slope."

Except the people fucking up that "slippery slope" are the TQ. They are the ones "turning our kids queer", they are the ones "who want pedophilia and beastiality and necrophilia to be legalized next", they are the ones who are "coming after our children". And as much as I LOVE to pin it 100% on the TQ, I also know there are also genuine LGB people in the LGBTQ who believe and vocally support that shit. So I can't even "the LGB want none of this", because CLEARLY, some do.

I hate this SO much. That sexuality apparently IS "choice" now. That sexuality "can" be changed. That "we just want to live our lives" has been so completely bastardized. That the rainbow flag and its ever changing variants evokes such visceral disgust and anger in me nowadays instead of hope.

( pennygadget )
I blame organizations like GLAAD. They just had to find a way to keep donations flowing after gay marriage was legalized federally and most of the country became tolerant of homosexuality. They had to find a new victim group to raise money for. Enter the trans and the "queers"

It also served to bolster their ranks. You can't just make new gays and lesbians. But any person with a mental illness and/or a fetish (or just a bad haircut) can become trans and/or queer

Babylon Bee #wingnut #transphobia babylonbee.com

Gender Surgeon Gives Patient Appointment Reminder For Reversal Surgery In Five Years
REDWOOD CITY, CA — Local gender surgeon Marcus Rankin made sure to schedule a follow-up appointment with a patient five years out from her sex-change surgery for the inevitable reversal procedure she'll want to have done.

"Yeah, it's pretty much a given that after the initial euphoria of getting your bits hacked to…well…bits, that patients decide they want their bits back," the surgical specialist told reporters. "I try to tell them there's not much we can do at that point, but they at least want us to give it the old college try and build something from the horror show we created down there."

Transgender advocates cite the enormous amount of evidence they created that says no one ever regrets having their sensitive stuff turned into a Frankensteinian nightmare and assert anyone wanting to reverse a sex-change surgery never really had their hearts in the game to start with.

"Yeah, there's no way anyone would ever regret getting surgery like that, and I can't believe a doctor would be so transphobic just to assume someone might want to come back in five years to reverse it," activist Jewel Johnson said. "We have so much data in the field of transgender medicine that shows no one ever regrets getting a sex change -- sorry, I mean a 'gender-affirming surgery.' Of course, the surgeries are 100 percent reversible but no one wants to get them reversed. Nope. Never."

At publishing time, Dr. Rankin went ahead and scheduled the 5-year-out surgery as it's pretty much a given at this point that the majority of his patients will realize TikTok lied to them and that they want their old lives back.

Jean-François Braunstein #wingnut #dunning-kruger #transphobia #conspiracy booknode.com

The problem is that we prefer to endanger the majority for the benefit of a tiny minority of convinced activists, who present themselves as eternal victims. Their rights as trans people come before the safety of imprisoned women. On this subject Rowling did not hesitate to aggravate her case by tweeting, on December 12, 2021, about the police who now register male criminals who have raped women as women, just if they declare that they are: "War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. The guy with a penis who raped you is a woman." The reference to Orwell could not be better chosen, we are indeed living in 1984.

mathlover #transphobia #sexist #ableist ovarit.com

(Re: A trans woman joined a sorority. Then her new sisters turned on her.)

His autism is irrelevant. Autistic males are just as deeply inculcated wih male socialization as all males. They absorb it just as much as all other males. They may even be less likely to ever have any misgivings about the violation and sense of entitlement of male socialization.

So what if he feels "bad" for women rejecting his presence in a sex-specific women's space. If he feels like garbage for being rejected, that is appropriate. Hopefully he will feel so profoundly rejected as a POS that he will leave the sorority, where he will never - can never - belong.

BondiBlue #transphobia ovarit.com

A trans woman joined a sorority. Then her new sisters turned on her.

[he] discovered [his] name on neo-Nazi websites

LOL, it sounds like dude may have found his name on the legendary birdwatching forum, and WaPo is bitter they couldn’t destroy it despite Taylor Lorenz’s best efforts. He made the Internet hall of shame and he’s salty.

The Farms is not a Nazi site; its owner/founder is Jewish, and among its membership are other socially introverted autistics who use those like Artemis and his ilk as an example of what not to become, in their quest to better themselves despite life dealing them a rough go of it.

There’s also a gender-critical subforum that specifically discusses TRAs and the reality-denying, destructive ideology that has completely engulfed the world, and shoved the rights and dignity of women, children, the disabled, LGB people, freedom of thought, association, creed, and expression, and the credibility of institutions, into a woodchipper — with the words “Be Kind” painted on it in big, bold letters (and “or else” in the fine print).

Mostly, they just like to laugh at people like Artemis who make a public spectacle of themselves. And who doesn’t, really. It’s not a neo-Nazi belief or practice to be repulsed by pathological liars and sexual predators, or to find whiny and entitled losers who make a (literal) federal case out of mere disagreements something to be pointed at and mocked.

It’s you, hi, you’re the problem, and (almost) everyone agrees.

Vic Biorseth #wingnut #racist #sexist #homophobia #transphobia #conspiracy catholicamericanthinker.com

It should not be surprising that so many revolutionary activist movements claiming to be inclusive of diversity are actually exclusive to the point pf being supremacist. Nor should anyone be surprised that all of these revolutionary activist movements claim to be democratic at the same time that they oppose the majority.

They cannot possibly be democratic and revolutionary at the same time. That's an irresolvable dichotomy. The whole purpose of any revolution is to overthrow the current majority; the whole purpose of democracy is to allow the majority to rule.
<...>
If they can't out-vote us because we outnumber them, they'll illegally change the whole racial balance in America by importing millions and millions of "people of color", and either way, they will either win by revolution, or by "democracy", corrupted as it will then be.

Cultural Marxism hit a near home-run with their DEI (Diversity, Equity and Inclusion) revolutionary activist movement, because it incorporated into itself an almost endless number of almost mutually exclusive individual revolutionary activist movements. The possible permutations and combinations of imaginary transsexual pronouns alone defy human counting without the use of a super-computer.

Try to imagine a transvestite, an Islamist, an ardent Communist, an open sodomite, a real live anarchist, a Palestinian, a real live Nazi, a biologically male women's athlete, a bearded drag queen, a material atheist libertarian and a bomb-toting dedicated Jihadist all getting together for a beer in one big happy DEI love-fest.
<...>
If none of that sounds particularly democratic to you, welcome to the club. As long as it's anti-Christian, anti-American, anti-Western, anti-male, anti-white, anti-hetero, anti-majority and anti-normalcy, the Marxocrat Party will support it, and the Republicrat Party will seek common ground and compromise with it.

Do you begin to understand Trump's majority popularity everywhere?

Kibeth, old_but_gold & AriadneOnNaxos #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: What kept you from peaking?

( Kibeth )
Pre-peak, I didn't understand it but figured it's not my business what someone else does with their body. [...]. I thought we were just accepting that some men are more comfortable pretending to be women--not that they actually believed themselves to be the same as women. I didn't know how pernicious the movement had become.

I think the first hint of peaking came when I heard about JK Rowling's comments, looked them up myself and didn't see the issue. It was wild to me that everyone is supposed to pretend TIMs are the same as real women. I started to feel uncomfortable, but it was still just some radicals posting online, right? Except I started to hear the same TWAW bs from relatives and friends and well, literally everywhere else. [...]

I think there are probably a lot of people like I was who don't realize how much this is encroaching on our daily lives and have a live and let live attitude about it and so don't pay too much attention. And if they do have any discomfort or criticism, it's difficult to find impartial information to learn more, let alone talk about all of it without coming under fire.

( old_but_gold )
The sex/gender distinction.

I thought everyone understood that TIMs were mentally ill males and that it was a mere kindness to call them "women." I figured we can make room under that label to accommodate them, after all "gender" is just a social role right? That's why I parroted handmaiden lines.

When it finally dawned on me that, no, TRAs really want you to believe that TIMs are female and that they'll call you a bigot and a TERF for acknowledging that sex is a real thing and that it matters, no matter how kind you are about pointing it out and no matter where you restrict the meaningfulness of sex to (including sports, changing rooms, and prisons) -- that's when I peaked.

( AriadneOnNaxos )
I thought we were only pretending that people could change sex. My political tribe was committed to making a tiny minority of poor sad souls who had so internalised homophobia that they thought it was better to be the opposite sex than same-sex attracted feel better. It would be mean to keep telling them they could never actually be the opposite sex, so we told them they were whatever “on the inside”. Of course everybody understood that this was a polite fiction - everyone!

Wrenn #transphobia #dunning-kruger ovarit.com

RE: Need help with Pie analogy

The “rights aren’t pie” mantra originally was used in the cause for gay marriage rights. And the way your friend was using it isn’t even close to how it is intended.

Basically, it was to say that straight people weren’t losing a piece of their “pie” by the legalization of gay marriage. It was a good analogy for that specifically, because the visual was that “marriage” was supposed to be a whole pie - belonging entirely to heterosexuals - and those who opposed gay marriage believed that they were having to cut a slice off and give it to “the gays”, thereby diminishing their pie. But the whole point was that rights aren’t pie. Straight couples lost nothing by allowing two men or two women to walk into a courthouse and obtain a marriage certificate, and have all the legal protections that go along with heterosexual marriage. There was absolutely no change to the legality, status, or validity of heterosexual marriages.

But in the case of “trans rights” - these people are arguing for special changes to rights they already have. They have the right to use the restroom in public, they have the right to play sports in school, they have the right to marry. They aren’t happy with the terms of those rights, while everyone else is. So unlike in the case of gay marriage - where a person had zero legal access to something that others did, on the sole basis of their sexual orientation - trans people already have the rights they demand changes to. And those changes actually do take something away from other people (women and girls). They take away our right to segregation by sex in areas where not being segregated puts as at a disadvantage, in the sole basis of our sex.

If we really want to go back to pie - everyone has pie, and are regularly served enough to eat forever. Trans people demand a different flavor of pie be served to them every minute, which ends up meaning the baker doesn’t have enough time to bake all the other pies anymore, and a lot of people go hungry as a result.

But if it was my friend, I would remind her that rights are not food, nuance is imperative, and complex ideas cannot be boiled down to a third grade reading level. Oh and that men’s rights end where mine begin.

Rep. Beth Lear #fundie #transphobia #psycho ffrfaction.org

During her statement as sponsor of HB 183, which would ban trans people from accessing appropriate restroom and locker room facilities in all Ohio public educational institutions, including colleges and universities, she said: “In Luke 17, Jesus says that if you caused one of these little ones to stumble, it would be better for you to have a millstone hung around your neck, and thrown into the deepest sea.” She added as justification for the bill that in Genesis, God created people “male and female.”

RighteousIndignation, Sheva & Spencer_Shayy #transphobia ovarit.com

TRA's destroy everything in their wake
image

( RighteousIndignation )
I would just put, tolerance, freedom of expression, free speech and equality on that sign.

( Sheva )
They will destroy everything that doesn’t play into their fetishes. They will destroy by perverting or they will destroy through violence.

( Spencer_Shayy )
Don't forget people with disorders of sexual development, formerly known as "intersex" conditions. I'd also argue people of color should be on there too, because of the appropriating of "third genders" from other cultures, and the delusion that sex is an "invention of the White man", which completely disregards the violent oppression women of color faced at the hands of men of color long before any culture in Europe grew into a civilization.

Julie Burchill #transphobia #conspiracy spectator.co.uk

What do Munroe Bergdorf and Andrew Tate have in common?

For inadequate men scared by self-willed women, by the start of the 21st century, things were getting dangerously out of hand. The old right-wing ‘Kinder, Küche, Kirche’ method of corralling and controlling us had been woefully discredited with the second world war. (Like the old brand of anti-Semitism, coincidentally, which was also looking for a new angle – and found it in the fresh’n’funky Islamist kind.)

A ‘caring’ and ‘progressive’ way to thwart uppity women was needed, but repeated and risible attempts at ‘men’s rights’ movements were rightfully mocked. So how could men abuse women while not being accused of sexism? Simple, say: ‘We’re women too. How can we be misogynists?’ And so the shock-frock-troops of transvestism formed a pincer movement with the aggressive masculinists embodied by Andrew Tate to assault the gains made by women in the 20th century.

Gains which took decades to achieve were wiped away in a few strokes of a pen: separate public toilets to uphold privacy and safety; sports to celebrate female bodies in a rare way that isn’t sexual (Sebastian Coe verified this week that sportswomen will never win Olympic gold medals again if they have to compete against men pretending to be women); opportunities at work to recompense for all the centuries of not being allowed to pursue careers – now given over to men in drag.
[...]
You can’t ban women from the workplace in the West as some Middle Eastern countries effectively do, but what you can do, since the onset of mass transophilia in the foremost institutions and corporations of this country, is frustrate female progress by taking many of the most well-paid, high-profile jobs created for women. It would be no surprise to me if the first ‘female’ leader of the Labour Party had a penis.
Another way to degrade and destroy female achievement is to question the very femaleness of prominent women in history, as was done last year with Joan of Arc, now mooted as ‘non-binary’. [...]

Davey Hiott and other South Carolina Republicans #transphobia #enbyphobia wistv.com

A ban on gender-affirming care for kids and teens in South Carolina is moving quickly at the State House.

Just hours after lawmakers gaveled in to begin their 2024 legislative session Tuesday, the newly-filed bill, H.4624, drew hours of criticism from parents and pediatricians during an afternoon hearing.

[…]But supporters, including top Republicans in the state’s House of Representatives, claimed they are pushing this legislation to protect kids.

“When God created us, he created us male and female, and that’s it. There is no other choice, and all these other folks that want to change that from birth or change that through their life, we need to stand up against that,” House Majority Leader Davey Hiott, R – Pickens and the bill’s lead sponsor, said during a news conference Tuesday.

This bill would ban minors in South Carolina from undergoing “gender-transition procedures,” including surgeries, hormone therapy, and puberty blockers.

It would also prohibit state dollars from paying for these procedures and would ban Medicaid from covering them for anyone younger than 27 in South Carolina.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

( spw )
"The real threat to women is 'cis' men, not transwomen"
It really annoys me when people say this. TRAs say things like "the real threats to women's sports are misogyny and lack of opportunities for girls/women, not transwomen." Yes it may be true that this is a bigger problem. But there is no easy solution to this. We've made a lot of progress recently but any progress has been slow and gradual over a long period of time. There is so much progress that needs to be made, but unfortunately there is nothing that could be done tomorrow that would fix all of these issues.

However there is an easy solution to TIMs in women's sports. It would take one small bit of legislation banning them, that could be done tomorrow and it would be sorted. It's just absurd that it's even a problem. So yes there are bigger problems, but this one is a big problem and can be fixed so easily

Same with when they say "the real threat to women is abusive men, not TIMs." Yes but there is no easy solution to that but it should be so easy to just ban TIMs from women's spaces now

( Women1st )
TIMs are male. Males are the problem. An identity doesn’t change the rotten core

( OwnLyingEyes )
The real threat to women is the collective decision being made over and over again on a government level that women's rights, safety, opportunities, wellbeing, boundaries/consent, and lives don't matter, many of which are currently being made by demand of TIMs. Women are under siege behind our barricades. TIMs are manning the battering ram knocking all of that down. Yes, there's a far larger horde of dangerous men outside of those gates, but that doesn't mean the battering ram brigade isn't the immediate threat in this situation (only magnifies the threat they represent to us), because they're the ones throwing their all into breaching our defenses and once breached we're vulnerable to the whole damn horde.

And plenty of TIMs are abusive men, they are misogynists, they're the same damn picture.

( RusticTroglodyte )
There is no such thing as "cis". "Transwomen" is just a name pornsick men with fetishes use to describe themselves.

It is baffling to me that ppl think a male simply saying, "I'm a woman" magically removes him from the class of ppl who commit 90% of violent crime and 99% of sexual assault. It is totally nonsensical and requires a belief in magic gender souls

various commenters #transphobia bprice.substack.com

RE: Sexual Offenses Are More Common Among Transwomen Than Men


( MarkS )
Please: you are a WOMAN, not a "cis woman". Do not degrade yourself with their awful language.


( MarkS )
It IS an easy problem: segregate by biological sex, period.

This solution has worked for thousands of years. We don't need to invent a new one, or pretend that the old one doesn't work. It does.

( The 21st Century Salonnière )
It did work until trans identities became more common. I want the spaces by sex but you know every post op or passing transwoman is going to complain about it: “what, so you want Blair White in the men’s room?”

( MarkS )
No policy is going to make everyone happy.


( Sam )
It is misogyny. Plain and simple. We are currently living in a time where someone with a penis is demanding access to womens spaces and we are expected to just go along with it. It’s shameful and frightening.

( MarkS )
Yes, it is the revenge of the patriarchy.

You women thougt you had carved out safe spaces and places for youselves, but guess what? We men are now women too! We can enter, we can dominate, we can win the prizes at the competitions you foolishly thought were yours alone.

( MarkS )
Also, I wish you (who know better) would stop using the Orwellian language of the cult.

There is no such thing as a "transwoman".

There are only men who wish they were women, and who go to extreme lengths of drugs and surgery to pass as women.

But they are not, and never can be, women.

"Transition" from one sex to another is a biological impossibility for mammals.

This is a plain fact of science. Mammalian sex is encoded at the cellular level. No amount of drugs or surgery can change it.

The cult has been extremely successful in forcing its Orwellian use of language on the rest of us. For example, "sex assigned at birth" is an absurdity. Sex is not "assigned" at birth, it is DETERMINED at birth, by a procedure (looking at the newborn's genitals) that has a 99.98% success rate.

So please, those of us who know the truth, let's stop going along with the cult's indoctrination and language.

Speak the truth. Live not by lies.

Chaya Raichik #transphobia #pratt mediamatters.org

On the afternoon of January 4, Libs of TikTok creator Chaya Raichik shared a meme on X suggesting that multiple recent school shooters have been transgender. Raichik added the claim — spreading rapidly among anti-trans accounts — that the alleged perpetrator of a shooting in an Iowa school that day identified as “genderfluid,” adding, “What’s going on?”

But one of the photos in the meme Raichik shared — supposedly of the shooter in the 2022 Uvalde, Texas, school shooting — was of an innocent woman

Far-right 4chan trolls had originally shared photos of an unrelated trans woman, identified by NBC News only as “Sam,” to claim that she had perpetrated the massacre. The actual shooter, 18-year-old Salvador Ramos, was killed on the scene by police

Carthimundia & Calidris #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Trans ideology has entirely warped the concept of bisexuality

( Calidris )
Bisexuality doesn't actually exist in the transgender ideology framework, no? They literally don't believe in biological sex so every human has to be attracted to both sexes because in their world you're only attracted to the gender soul which is obviously invisible. So what it comes down to is clothes and accessories, or how they call it "gender expression". So in their logic a straight woman is a kind of bisexual because she'd be attracted to men and AMAB non binaries. Two genders, so bisexual. Even though they're the same sex but they wear slightly clothing!

But if attraction to imaginary gender souls is okay and good why can't attraction to sexed bodies be good? Well because if women have their way, men don't get their dicks as wet. That's it, that's the whole reason behind it, dry dicks that want to be wet.

( Carthimundia )
Yes, what I’ve come to realise is bisexuality is essentially destroyed in the gender paradigm. Young people are now saying the word “bisexual” is an old fashioned term that is kept because of history, but if you actually say you are attracted to both sexes you are a bigot and wrong. So they keep the word but not its essence.

There does seem to be a bit of tension about what bisexuality actually is- the hearts over parts view, or the more than one gender view. Both are fundamentally in tension but doesn’t seem to bother genderists.

And you’re exactly right, technically speaking a straight woman should be attracted to all men so “trans men” and “cis men”. Perhaps also non binary or gender fluid males. I haven’t heard any concept of someone just attracted to “cis” people , outside of super straight memes.

It shouldn’t bother anyone that I want to define my own sexuality as attraction to males and females but this is deeply threatening to genderists …

Political Hat #pratt #transphobia politicalhat.com

“The same belief in magic reveals itself in the claim that certain words or ideas associated with ‘white privilege’ are a form of ‘epistemic violence’, capable of wreaking untold psychological damage on women and minorities. When a group of LGBT+ activists at a university claim that giving a platform to a ‘Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist’ will ‘erase’ the identity of trans students, it is tempting to dismiss this as hyperbole. But maybe we should take what they say at face value. If we grant them that courtesy, we have to conclude that the members of this cult attribute a terrifying supernatural power to those in possession of ‘white privilege’. They really do believe that the people at the top of the intersectional hierarchy can literally ‘erase’ people by uttering certain words, almost like magic spells. In this context, the ‘safe spaces’ that have been created in universities, in which students are protected from the harmful effects of these spells, are a bit like churches — holy places where evil cannot penetrate.”

The Foxhole #transphobia sfcmac.com

Trannies Gone Wild: Iowa School Shooter Identified as ‘Trans Activist’

Unhinged tranny activist Dylan Butler, age 17, opened fire inside the Perry High School, which he attended.

He posted this photo before the shooting from the school bathroom.

They’re so traumatized by their own gender dysphoria and mental illness, they have to kill innocent people. The only small consolation is the tranny took his own life. He should have done that before he decided to show up at the school.

https://sfcmac.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/tranny-shooters.jpg

Mike Stone #wingnut #fundie #sexist #homophobia #transphobia #racist #conspiracy henrymakow.com

WHY AMERICA IS DOOMED
<...>
Those reasons fall directly on us. We're the ones responsible, because when a nation turns its back on God, it dies.

Collectively, the people of this country have never engaged in such widespread sin and rejection of God as they are now. And that doesn't look to change any time soon.

As Cassius put it in the play Julius Caesar, "The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, But in ourselves."

stone-porn.jpegBy continuing to sin, the people of this country are dooming it to failure. And that responsibility lies with all of us individually. Until we stop sinning, the country will never recover. In fact, it's only going to fall further from grace.

What are these sins, you ask? Just about everything.

If you're watching porn, you're part of the problem.

If you're cruising hookup sites and jerking off to OnlyFans, you're the reason why the country is in the mess it's in.

If you've had an abortion or impregnated someone who had an abortion, you're directly responsible for the downfall of the country.

And on and on it goes.

Modern society is a funnel to hell. Not only does society condone every sin imaginable, from murder (abortion), to child molestation (trannyism), to immodest dress, to homosexuality, drunkenness, and more, but sin has become so commonplace that nobody even bats an eye over it. The vast majority of sinners are unaware that they're sinning.
<...>
Another Trump presidency, as beneficial as it will be, is not going to clean up the level of sin currently ongoing. Sure, a Trump administration will crack down on illegal immigration and child sex trafficking, and that's a good thing. But it will do nothing to put an end to individual sin being committed on a daily basis by just about everyone.

A country on the brink of collapse will never recover until the citizens of that country refrain from destroying it with sin. If we wish to save America, we have to start with ourselves.

various commenters #transphobia #conspiracy ovarit.com

RE: The colonisation of lesbian & bisexual women’s spaces by TIMs - the canary in the coal mine?

( unlearningtrans )
Lesbian community (which includes bisexual women) has been ravaged by pornography, polyamory, Trans, and kink. Men have colonized our spaces. It’s ruined dating—just hop on Lex or HER, and it’s taken from us our bars, our festivals, and our right to exist and call ourselves bisexual or homosexual women. It makes me fucking furious. Being pro-reality as a lesbian is to be a parish today—I think it’s bigger than the TIMs though. They are awful and we need to resist them but we need to resist the Queer bullshit as well. All that keeps me sane are the lesbians who came before me like Julie Bindel that know this shit is not new.

( Carrots90 )
And all the butchered young lesbians. Trying to be a simulacrum of short, straight men

Heartbreaking

( unlearningtrans )
Horrific. Conversion therapy in a vile and violent form.

( mathlover )
They violate personal space because they get off on it. They talk about being touch starved. Well, yeah. No lesbians and very few bi or het women want to get anywhere near these guys. So they get way too close to any woman if there is an opportunity. They know women will feel uncomfortable or even defiled but won't say anything. And if a woman does complain, the man will make a scene and aggressively harass the woman for being a "bigot". This sense of "power" and violation of women's bodies and personal space gets them off and provides mental masturbation fodder for later on when they cry about being rejected by women (lesbians) who will never want them.

( sarstan )
My theory is that the movement is to sexualize society so that men can access whomever and whatever they want, wherever, whenever, however and why-ever they want. We will have fetishes everywhere in public life.

( [Deleted] )
Yeah a new friend of mine and I discussed this (she’s a rad fem) and she said exactly that. TIMs access to and garnering sympathy from society for their fetishising of woman hood and as well as that society encouraging those lib fems to embrace sex work and pornography as empowerment

Gino Bulso #wingnut #homophobia #transphobia #racist msn.com

Bulso is a Christian nationalist who believes the Bible is the foundation of civic life and government. He says 18th-century values are the ones Americans should adhere to.

“Certainly, you know, 50 years ago we had a consensus on what marriage is; we don’t have that anymore,” “One hundred years ago, we had a consensus on sexual morality; I don’t think we have that anymore. So the values that I think most parents want their children exposed to are the ones that were in existence at the time that our country was founded.”

“I had some complaints from Williamson County parents and a Williamson County School Board member, in particular, about Pride flags in some of our schools in Williamson County,” Bulso said. “The whole idea is that a school is a place where a child goes to learn, not a place where a child goes to be indoctrinated” in “transgender ideology and other similar issues.”

According to Bulso, the Pride and trans flags represent the 2015 Supreme Court decision legalizing marriage equality and are a misguided interpretation of the 14th Amendment that requires states to recognize same-sex marriage.

“That’s one issue that I think that flag represents. This idea that, somehow, the 14th Amendment has an equal protection clause that extends this protection, which is obviously something I very much disagree with,” he said. “And I think — a lot of parents and I would be included in that group — really think that this transgender ideology is probably the most dangerous one that comes under that Pride flag.”

As written, Bulso’s bill bans any flag except the U.S. and Tennessee state flags from being displayed on government property like municipal buildings, state courts, and schools. That will change, Bulso said, as exceptions are written in that conform to a “very strong consensus”, while still denying “political” or “ideological” flags a place in public.

Flags that promote an “agenda,” like the Pride and Black Lives Matter flags, will still face a ban, Bulso said.

MaryDyer #transphobia ovarit.com

If we don’t put an end to this madness, the generations that come after this one will have to relearn what young millennials and gen z willingly unlearned about the nature of crime and why we segregate males from females in intimate settings.

100 years from now they’ll be reviewing compiled crime statistics and they’ll notice something:

Investigator 1: “Hey, you know what I’ve noticed, Bobbert?”

Investigator 2: “What, Tavariousness Rex?”

Investigator 1: “Well, you know how women are sexually assaulting other women like, every day?”

Investigator 2: “Yeah? Those wily women.”

Investigator 1: “Well according to the prison records, almost all of those women are AMAB. Like…99% of them.”

Investigator 2: “Yeah, you know, I read a recent study out of the UK that found the same thing. Crazy, right?”

Investigator 1: “It makes me wonder if there’s some sort of…link…between AMABs and sexual violence against women.”

Investigator 2: “Well if there’s a link, what do we do about it?”

Investigator 1: “Well first we need more data to confirm the link, but if it’s true, we could start by giving the AFABs their own spaces in which to feel safe. You know, intimate spaces like bathrooms and locker rooms and stuff like that. They’d be AFAB-only; No AMAB allowed in.”

Investigator 2: “My grand-birthing-person once told me that they used to do that. It was like, standard practice all over the world.”

Investigator 1: “SHHHH! We don’t talk about the Before Times. We don’t know who’s listening…”

Stephanie Bastiaan #transphobia twitter.com

Bad ideas lead to bad outcomes:

❗️“Their records said they were male but they were in labour. They had a prolapsed umbilical cord, but there was a delay while doctors worked out what was going on, and by the time they found it, the baby had died,” Gribble said.”

“In another case, a transgender man had a car accident and required intubation. The hospital mistook him for a biological man. “There are different-sized tubes between sexes and this person was intubated with an inappropriately large endotracheal tube for a long time, and ended up with serious injuries requiring multiple surgeries.”

MiMi2013, AriadneOnNaxos & WasItSomethingISaid #transphobia ovarit.com

The comedian taking on transphobia in a new show (that imagines JKR sitting down with trans interviewer)

( MiMi2013 )
There is no such thing as "transphobia" . There's people who think trans woMEN* are Sad Gay Men who've had their junk cut off, and people who know the majority of trans woMEN are heterosexual men who are physically intact, and who want to stick those intact and functioning "lady dicks" inside lesbians , whether they want it there or not, either as "validation" for their autogynephilia/"transbian" bullshit, OR because they're simply predators. The former (the ignorant/deluded) think the latter are "transphobic'

* Trans "men" are basically irrelevant as even the plummeting percentage that are the stereotypical Molestation Victims/Lesbians are no threat whatsoever, as there's no such thing as a "sex change operation". Trans "men" gain NOTHING in 'transitioning' in the way of physical strength, and no matter how irritating 'gay trans "men" ' are to gay men, they are in no way a threat to them, the way trans woMEN are to women, lesbian and otherwise.(It's amazing how many trans "men" really and truly seem to think that they're somehow gonna magically gain the height and build of a man, or that T in the bloodstream , if it gets to a certain percentage, will somehow give them physical strength equal to an actual man. )

( AriadneOnNaxos )
I admit to being curious about this show.

I wonder if Piper Scott is capable of understanding materialist arguments well enough to present them accurately, and whether the effect will be what he clearly anticipates, or will the audience see it differently.

If I weren’t on the other side of the globe, I think I’d go.

( WasItSomethingISaid )
If he or any other TPA could engage in actual debates with gender critical people without looking like absolute fools, they would do this rather than deplatforming us, censoring us and attempting to intimidate us into silence. I'm pretty sure the entire audience will be TPAs. Curious people might watch a debate, but not a drag show in which JKR is burned in effigy.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Starting to have resentment for HSTS men for having a hand in creating a false image of TIMs

( samsdat )
I’m not just here because of the danger to women and the fetishism and the intrusion into our spaces and the obliteration of our right to privacy; I am also offended at the fraud. And the HSTS are just as fraudulent as the straight AGPs. It’s an infuriatingly shameless denial of reality.

Now, I’m not against having some unprovable beliefs about souls or other things that can’t be proven to be real. I have my own beliefs that other people might think are ridiculous. And I’m fine with people believing things I don’t believe. But those beliefs should never be forced on other people. Trans is a religion and the whole thing offends my belief in separation of church and state AND freedom of speech.

( Aparallaxia )
There are some HSTS who speak out against straight TIMs, but not many, and that's in part because so many of them also are AGPs who hate and envy women just as fiercely.

BTW I don't find Nikkie Tutorials 'safe and non-threatening'. Anytime he is photographed next to a woman he looks like he's brought his lunch with him.

( Spencer_Shayy )
He also raped his husband by deception by not telling him he was male.

( SecondSkin )
Gay men are men.

Men are the problem. All men. Gay men, black men, disabled men, elderly men included. All are the problem, so don’t be afraid of saying it.

( fightlikeagirl )
Would I rather be around an HSTS than an AGP? Absolutely, because straight men are more dangerous. That being said, all TIMs perpetuate harm against women.

( RisingUp )
Gay TIMs could have stopped this shit dead in its tracks if they’d publicly disowned the creepy cross-dressers. And if they actually cared about women they would have.

( Riothamus )
Gay TIMs seek to rape straight men by deception. Of course they won't call out dudes who try to use the same tactic against women.

( Bubsy3D )
It's okay to be angry at gay men because they're men even if they do not transition into anything btw. Only men can be truly homophobic against gays because the root of their """phobia""" is the fear of being the target on another man's penile access, which they know is extremely degrading.

( Spencer_Shayy )
It's not homophobic to say this. Or if it is, I don't care. I blame gay men as much as straight people for this "trans" bullshit.

Pattikrenwinklesbountifulleghair #transphobia #sexist tumblr.com


If I see another “transwoman” begging for money to “help them transition” I am actually going to shit a literal physical brick, and then another, etc. and I’m going to use those bricks to wall myself off forever
Like honestly, fuck you. I know plenty of flat-chested girls who would LOVE fake boobs. I know plenty of hairy women, myself included, that would LOVE to be able to afford to laser all the hair off our faces. I would LOVE to be able to afford cute clothing. I would LOVE to be able to afford high-end cosmetics. They don’t hand that stuff out in a cis-woman gift bag when you come out of your mother with a vulva. Preforming femininity is expensive and painful and horrible and time consuming. It’s something we are forced into dedicating an enormous amount of time and money to, or we face horrible treatment. Get the fuck out of here if you think that you can not only opt into that oppression, but that because you opted in you get some kind of fucking free pass on having to make the sacrifices real women are forced to make.

Because honestly, the MtF fantasy isn’t being a woman. It’s not being an average woman with lip hair and uneven boobs and a naturally wide jaw and the natural, unpainted, plain face that god or whatever gave you. It’s not feeling ugly and inadequate every second of every day and having those thoughts reinforced by every piece of media you come across. NOBODY would want to trade male privilege for being an average woman. The fantasy is to be in the top 1% of “hot” women who get special treatment for being good decorative objects. And that’s clearer and clearer every time I see one of these bullshit begging posts. You don’t want to be a woman, with a woman’s struggles and pains and expectations and sacrifices. You don’t even RECOGNIZE a fraction of a percent of the time and money and effort that goes into preforming femininity. But I guess that’s the typical male mindset, isn’t it? Demanding everything handed to you like that…

operaghost, spiderberries & rightnow #transphobia #enbyphobia ovarit.com

RE: Nonbinary woman mad that doctor won't chop her breasts off

( operaghost )
So before she decided she was trans, she had a history of anorexia and "compulsive exercise."

What if adopting a trans identity is just another sign of compulsive hatred toward her body, rather than some sort of innate identity that she just happened to only figure out about herself as an adult in her 30s?

( spiderberries )
Honestly I don’t understand how these NBs and TIFs live several decades and think they are totally unique in disliking their bodies and struggling to lose weight. That seems like a near universal experience for women, at least from what I’ve observed. Are they just utterly isolated from other females? Are they antisocial narcissistic main characters? I don’t know. I’m trying to find sense where there is none.

( rightnow )
The HAES/fat acceptance moment is so similar to the trans moment, it doesn't surprise me to see this overlap.

Both have origins in men's sexual fetishes.

Both are filled with the sheer entitlement that the world should suddenly change to accommodate them.

Both think they are entitled to people finding them attractive.

Both claim the science is settled, while being anti science and spreading falsehoods.

Both require people to deny common sense and what their own eyes tell them. "You can't tell someone is unhealthy just by looking at them!" is not that much different than "You can't tell tell someone's gender just by looking at them!

Both feed into delusion and mask underlying mental health conditions.

Both have a rapid activists that can't be reasoned with.

Both lead to bad health outcomes and early deaths. Although at least the HAES movement is against bariatric surgery, which as Exculantic states, typically leads to "predictable and nightmarish" outcomes. Unfortunately, the misinformation they spread about weight loss leads to it anyway.

[...]

various commenters #transphobia #homophobia ovarit.com

RE: Starting to have resentment for HSTS men for having a hand in creating a false image of TIMs

( pennygadget )
One thing radical feminism taught me is that gay men are not our friends just because they don't want to fuck us. They are complicit in female oppression and are often happy to rape us by proxy in the form of shit like surrogacy. Hell, in some ways they can be worse than straight men because they don't even have to pretend to like/respect us in order to get laid or have a relationship.

The stereotype of cute, cuddly gay men being the BFFs of women is a total lie

( Spencer_Shayy )
Yup. I've never met a gay man who wasn't a raging misogynist.

( littleowl12 )
I've met a few- but only a few. Enough that I default to be wary of gay men just as I do other men. There have been some lovely gay men in my life, but women are a better ally to gay men than gay men are to women.

( Architectura )
Yup. If it was up to gay men, pedophiles would be under the alphabet soup banner already. The only reason homosexuality is tolerated at all is because of the work that Lesbians did.

Also: you think it was gay men doing a majority of the labor during the AIDS crisis, caring for their own? Nope. Lesbians. Meanwhile gay men weren't even widely willing to close bathhouses and limit promiscuity. Now that PReP is a thing, STDs are starting to get out of control among gay men once again, because males as a species are disgusting hedonists.

( SwiftiePrincess )
There's two different flavors of HSTS; the first is the child eunuch like Kim Petras and Jazz Jennings who were castrated in their youth because mommy and daddy couldn't cope with having an effeminate son who'd most likely grow up to be gay. I pity them because they're essentially victims of the most grotesque kind of human rights violation, and transitioning wasn't really a choice for them.

The other kind is basically the self-hating gay man, most commonly found in the form of RPDR contestants. They have a burning jealousy towards bio women for being the primary objects of male desire, and see them as competition who they get off on the idea of "stealing" their boyfriends from. They peddle the most blatant male supremacy rhetoric, and don't even TRY to hide their misogyny, yet handmaidens can't stop falling over themselves to coddle them.

Scott Lively #homophobia #fundie #transphobia scottlively.net

The first of the state churches to fall to the “Gays” was the Anglican Church of England, whose stand for biblical morality had been strongly bolstered by the cornerstone of modern human rights jurisprudence, the Magna Carta. The first demand of that incredible document (a copy of the original I personally viewed at Salisbury Cathedral) states in pertinent part: “the English Church shall be free.” That juridical foundation-stone served as a bulwark against all threats to the biblical worldview in English law for eight centuries until the rise of so-called “Sexual Orientation Regulations (SORs) erupted like oozing sores on the British body politic, somehow trumping biblical morality.

I played a small part in that battle, as well, by divine appointment spending a night with my family at the home of David Anderson in Edenborough, Scotland on the very weekend he was tasked with writing a policy paper against the repeal of Paragraph 28 banning the promotion of LGBT issues to schoolchildren in the UK. We only met David, who happened to be the head of the Scottish Evangelical Alliance, because we stopped to chat with one of his church members that day who was passing out gospel tracts downtown. That parishioner then, impromptu, arranged for our stay at Dr. Anderson’s home. That very night we hammered out a great policy paper. But, again, using political dirty tricks, the LGBTs prevailed over the Christians in the British Parliament on that issue, striking down Paragraph 28, leading directly to today’s horrific pandemic of sexual deviance among UK schoolchildren.

Padraig Martin #wingnut #racist #transphobia #homophobia identitydixie.com

[From “Is Trump Hitler?”]

The Left has portrayed Donald Trump as Adolf Hitler. This has led to the outrageous, over-the-top political and judicial subversion of a once functioning constitutional republic[…]They have done so because they believe in their own rhetoric. The fact is, Trump and Hitler share much in common[…]
The reasons that the Trump-Hitler comparison works is not because the Left is right about Trump. Rather, the American political Right is wrong about Hitler[…]
Like Trump, Hitler was an outgrowth of a hurting middle class that recently lost a war and, more importantly, lost its moral bearings to Far Left radical subversives[…]Just as the political tyranny of transgenderism and homosexuality raged through schools throughout Germany in 1932, the same was seen in 2016[…]
Much of the same complaints voiced by Trump are identical to those by Hitler. The lack of national pride… the elite vs working class divide… the border invasion of illegal aliens… all of these messages are straight out of Mein Kampf[…]
Trump was and still is surrounded by sycophants with very little actual capacity to run a nation-state. Hitler, by contrast, spent five years working on a shadow government of likeminded individuals[…]
Germany only had a decade of widespread Marxist inculcation. Consequently, when the NSDAP slid into power, it was able to flip the script faster. Whomever leads a populist revolt in the U.S. will need to be very cautious[…]
Hitler understood the true nature of Nationalism. Trump does not understand the term because he is an American[…]The United States is not a nation. It is a union of quasi-independent states and an amalgamation of races and ethnicities[…]
Trump’s desire to ignore racial realities undermines his ability to be a Nationalist. It is the string that pulls the garment apart. In this regard, the Left is wrong about Trump – he is no Hitler. In this regard, the Right is wrong about Trump – he is, unfortunately, no Hitler

SummerGrl #transphobia ovarit.com

Deception is not kind
image
Trans ideology is robbing women our identity and our ability to advocate for our own rights. Entitled privileged males are stealing that from us. And they're time-sucking all of our resources and energies that need to be put into helping girls and women. Instead, we have to waste it on these males. It's the ultimate grift by males.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

( DonnaFemina )
Open athletic category scrapped - apparently trans athletes don't want to compete
We're genociding them and banning them from sports - oh so sad! - and yet, when we clearly and explicitly direct them to a whole-ass sports category especially for them, they... do not want to compete.

ARE WE SURPRISED? Turns out they just wanted to unfairly beat female athletes.

https://sports.yahoo.com/swimming-world-cups-open-category-171519316.html

( JACKANDJILL )
Always figured this is what would happen if you gave them their own category.

Their only interest in competing as "women" is to force people to pretend they're women.

( ActualTomboy )
Not just any women, but the best women!!

It’s fulfillment for their main character syndrome. A huge proportion of trans identifying people have this issue.

Plus they get to perv on real women and make them uncomfortable! That’s half the fun! Also, what misogynistic, entitled man doesn’t love putting women in their place? 🥰

( RusticTroglodyte )
I swear all tims have main character syndrome whereas it's not guaranteed in tifs since tifs reason for transitioning usually isn't pornsickness.

( Fluffy_gender )
I'm really shocked. All this time I thought that poor transwomen just wanted to play sports and the big bad TERFs were stopping them. Are you telling me it was never about the sports?

( Helena_Handbasket )
But...but... we don't want to feel 'othered' by being in our own category. The ONLY solution that works for us is to invade the women's category so we can feel like real wimmin and also -- bonus! -- see some of y'all nekkid and intimidated in the lockers. That gives us all the validation feelz we crave.

( RusticTroglodyte )
Exactly. Can't get that euphoria boner and fully immerse themselves in the Lady Cosplay without the women's locker room experience

( OneStarWolf )
Gee, not so exciting if they don’t get that validation and chance to perv in the locker rooms eh?

( camino_medio )
Won't date each other

Won't compete with each other

Won't use the bathroom with each other

I just can't understand why the BRAVEST, bestest and most stunningly living-your-truthiestness of all don't want to hang with each other... it's a riddle for the ages for sure!

Torchy Blane #wingnut #sexist #enbyphobia #transphobia #conspiracy winterwatch.net

During the feminist movement in the ’70s, women moved into the professional workplace dressed in masculine suits because they were told that in order to succeed and be taken seriously, they would have to masc it up, or dress more like men. Smart women soon realized that there was power in beauty and femininity but to never rely up on it.

By the mid ’90s, women began bringing sexy to the boardroom for a competitive edge. Meanwhile, men began dressing down. Thanks to Silicon Valley’s tech titans, CEOs aren’t “cool” anymore unless they slouch around in jeans, tennis shoes and faded t-shirts.

Flash forward 25 years and almost nobody dresses up for work anymore. Non-binary neutrality is the norm. Don’t stand out, just fit in. And increasingly it’s about gender neutrality – which depending on a given retailer could mean anything from everyday frumpwear (sweats, jeans and T-shirts) to men fem’ing it up.

According to the usual suspects (aka the Lugenpresse), Millennials are to blame – gay, straight and trans. They don’t just want gender-neutral clothing for themselves but for their kids, too. They apparently don’t want to put any gender or sexual-identity pressure on their children.


Though the trend seems to be draped in a wide banner labeled “non-gender,” there appears to be a wide spectrum in approach. At one end of the spectrum is truly non-gender clothing — sort of like a one sack fits all approach. At the other end, there’s transgender clothes — meaning women’s clothes tailored for men and vice versa.
<...>
What’s most disturbing about non-gender clothes is that they’re reminiscent of Communist China after the Cultural Revolution.
<...>
The transgender “non-gender” fashion is equally disturbing. These victim-card-carrying, gender-bending guys and gals are encouraged to flaunt a flamboyant style that screams, “Your rights end where my feelings begin!” I wonder if a SJW membership is included with purchase.

Rep. Tim Walberg (R-MI) #homophobia #psycho #transphobia newsweek.com

Republican Congressman Tim Walberg is facing criticism on social media following support for Uganda's anti-LGBTQ+ bill, widely called the "Kill the Gays" law

On Wednesday, Salon, considered a liberal news organization,reported that in October, Walberg traveled to Uganda and delivered a speech where he spoke about his support for the country's anti-LGBTQ+ law

"Though the rest of the world is pushing back on you...though there are other major countries that are trying to get into you and ultimately change you, stand firm. Stand firm," Walberg said about Uganda's anti-homosexuality law while delivering a speech at Uganda's National Prayer Breakfast

According to Salon, Uganda's President Yoweri Museveni said that Walberg "thinks like us," following his speech. In May, Museveni signed the Anti-Homosexuality Act of 2023 which seeks to criminalize homosexuality, and includes the possibility of the death penalty for individuals found guilty of "aggravated homosexuality," Human Rights Watch reported#
In March, Walberg sought to include a measure in the Parental Rights Over the Education and Care of Their (PROTECT) Kids Act, requiring schools to get consent from parents before a student is allowed to change their preferred pronouns

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: “The Science is Settled” on Trans

( Dreamingsiren )
I really hate to admit this, but it’s this attitude that makes me increasingly skeptical of other mainstream scientific opinions and debate. If it’s not accepted that men can be women, what else is biased?

( rightnow )
I used to mock anti-vaxxers, but now I wonder if mothers in mass noticed that their children were suddenly different after getting certain vaccines, would their claims be taken seriously? Given how women are being ignored about the trans issues and mothers are being told ROGD isn't a thing, I would say the answer is no.

I'm not saying I'm anti-vaxx now, just that I understand the reasoning behind it.

( Moonflower )
I feel the same on this. The unfortunate reality is that our health authorities have chosen to stake their credibility on supporting “gender affirming healthcare” for minors and failed covid policies like school closures / masking / mRNA vaccines — and the result is that I no longer take it for granted that their judgement can be trusted on literally anything, including the old-school anti-vaxx shit. (And to be clear, this doesn’t mean I’m automatically against all vaccines or something; it just means I now need these people to show their fucking work in excruciating detail, including answering the concerns of everyone they felt entitled to dismiss as a quacks a decade ago.)

( tricky )
As awareness grows, TRAs are running out of comebacks and now are just aiming to shoot down all discussion. Like how you hear TIMs say "I'm a biological woman because I identify as a woman and I'm not a robot" and "I was assigned female at birth because female gender is innate in my head."

The way I see it, they're grasping at straws as they continue to lose every debate that relies on logic. Hopefully that means the TRA movement is on its last legs.

( a_shrub )
For me it came in the form of a big list of like 20+ Scientific™ associations who apparently all certify that "gender affirmation" is the best, more perfect cure for men's sad gender feelz in the whole universe, and who was little old me to ask anyone to throw out all that irrefutable Science™. My response was to ask if the dude wanted me to provide a similar long list of "prestigious" institutions that proclaimed Jesus is Lord.

Tired_of_this_BS #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: FLINTA! Female, Lesbian, Intersex, Non-binary, Trans & Agender! The newest woke acronym contributing to the destruction of female spaces!

I’m seriously, seriously considering joining the right.

I would rather keep the gender pay gap, suck up some chauvinism, keep the little boys club in Wall Street and in London banking if it means I don’t have to worry about vulnerable women being raped by male prisoners, don’t get shouted at for being a ‘sexual bigot’ because as a lesbian I don’t want to sleep with a TIM, watching children get sterilised and mutilated, worry about AGPs getting into roles that put them into positions of trust/ power with women eg intimate care.

I think the right might be the only political population to get us out of this.

cranberrysalad , GrendelsMother & Porange #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Looking back over the past 2 years, how has the sentiment of the general public where you live (excluding politicians) changed regarding transgender issues?

( cranberrysalad )
Already left a comment but want to add that I wonder if the quieting down is an effect of coming within a year of a president election in the US. This is a very divisive issue and it’s so crazy that it alienates a lot of people versus rallying a core base that would never vote the other way anyhow. Maybe that’s why it’s quiet.

Also, I do think there’s a small tidal shift against it but it’s not pro woman. More like “I won’t give my son hormones” or “get these perverts out of the bathrooms of my women/children” but not “women deserve respect!” because politically the people that say that in the US vote for the most infantile repressive policies toward women imaginable.

Trans days of visibility really help the peakening, because so many normies think of trans women as like Felicity Huffman in Transamerica, not the 300 lb furry with a beard and cat ears using the girls restroom in the children’s section of a public library. The more that the full spectrum of “trans” is introduced, from HSTS to spicy straights to AGP to heterosexual non brainaries to the bully kid whose mom tells the administration they can’t expel him for threatening girls because he’s sPeCiAl, the better. Peak the hell out of people by sharing the non-LGB rainbow.

( GrendelsMother )
It used to be wildly pro-trans, hooray for puberty blockers, etc. Now, it is… quiet. Mostly. A few very transy trans people, a few handmaidens, a few virtue signaling men, but the people in between just seem… quiet. The general enthusiasm for cheerleading has faded.

( cranberrysalad )
That’s what’s I think, too. The vocal cheerleading has stopped. I think the tide is turning. People went out and met actual trans people and went what the fuck these people are perverts or crazy or both. I’m noticing big shifts.

( Porange )
I thought it was just my circles/feed! I am in the 30s age group and in alt circles which we're very libfems leftist TRA. Many of them are quiet. I suspect it's because some of them started having kids but even ones that are 30+ with no kids are more mum besides the scared rituals of saying "they". The 20s people are still captured and perform pronoun rituals religiously.

Next page