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#transphobia

Like homophobia, but for transgender people

Candace Owens #transphobia #dunning-kruger #conspiracy #wingnut #racist lgbtqnation.com

At a speaking engagement, right-wing pundit Candace Owens went on a racist and anti-trans rant against Native Americans in response to an audience member’s question about Two-Spirit people.

The audience member asked Owens how she could believe trans identities are somehow a new trend fueled by the media when Two-Spirit Native Americans have existed for thousands of years.

Two-Spirit is an umbrella term used in Native American communities to describe those who do not conform to their sex assigned at birth and who are said to possess both a male and female spirit. Two-Spirit people were once considered healers and shamans, but colonization led to their marginalization. Many communities, however, are working to revive their sacred roles.

Owens had never heard of Two-Spirit people, and she responded to the question with a series of derogatory comments about Native Americans.

“I don’t know what you’re talking about with Two-Spirit people,” she said. “Is this like a Native American tribe, like high smoking and talking about your spirit? I’m asking you seriously, because when I think of Native American tribes talking about their spirits, I know that they used to smoke a lot, they used to do drugs, they also were cannibals who used to eat people, so I don’t know if we should be taking our cues from cannibals.”

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Owens then denied the audience member’s claim that it is basic historical knowledge that there were trans native Americans.

“I don’t think that there were trans native Americans,” she said, before the audience member told her to educate herself.

knitsandhooks #transphobia ovarit.com

Canada warns '2SLGBTQI+' residents about traveling to US

Um, shouldn't it be the other way around? The US government needs to be warning American gays that if they travel to Canada they might be expected to undergo conversion therapy to sterilize them and remove their sex organs, and may even encounter giant crowds of angry blue-haired Canadian homophobes screaming at them that their sexuality is offensive to straight people.

Russian Government #conspiracy #enbyphobia #fundie #homophobia #psycho #transphobia thestar.com

The Russian Justice Ministry on Friday said it has filed a lawsuit with the nation's Supreme Court to outlaw the LGBTQ+ “international public movement” as extremist, the latest crippling blow against the already beleaguered LGBTQ+ community in the increasingly conservative country.

The ministry said in an online statement announcing the lawsuit that authorities have identified “signs and manifestations of extremist nature” in “the activities of the LGBT movement active" in Russia, including “incitement of social and religious discord.” Russia's Supreme Court has scheduled a hearing to consider the lawsuit for Nov. 30, the ministry said.

The crackdown, which began a decade ago, slowly but surely chipped away at LGBTQ+ rights. In 2013, the Kremlin adopted the first legislation restricting LGBTQ+ rights, known as the “gay propaganda” law, banning any non-critical public depiction of “nontraditional sexual relations” among minors. In 2020, Putin pushed through a constitutional reform to extend his rule by two more terms that also outlawed same-sex marriage.

In 2022, after sending troops into Ukraine, the Kremlin ramped up its rhetoric about protecting “traditional values” from what it called the West’s “degrading” influence, in what rights advocates saw as an attempt to legitimize the war in Ukraine. That same year, the authorities adopted a law banning propaganda of “nontraditional sexual relations” among adults, too, effectively outlawing any public endorsement of LGBTQ+ people.

Another law passed this year prohibited gender transitioning procedures and gender-affirming care for trans people. The legislation prohibited any “medical interventions aimed at changing the sex of a person,” as well as changing one’s gender in official documents and public records. It also amended Russia’s Family Code by listing gender change as a reason to annul a marriage and adding those “who had changed gender” to a list of people who can’t become foster or adoptive parents.

“Do we really want to have here, in our country, in Russia, ‘Parent No. 1, No. 2, No. 3’ instead of ‘mom’ and ‘dad?’” Putin said in September 2022 at a ceremony to formalize Moscow's annexation of four Ukrainian regions. “Do we really want perversions that lead to degradation and extinction to be imposed in our schools from the primary grades?”

Chad Felix Greene #homophobia #wingnut #transphobia #conspiracy msn.com

Drag is never appropriate for kids

…Drag queens went from a favorite gif to add to a particularly sassy tweet to the manifestation of everything conservative Americans fear about LGBTQ activism, especially toward children.

It might seem easy to dismiss these concerns as an overreaction or even as an expression of bigotry, but conservatives are right about this one…

Drag queens take on the most absurd sexualized elements of female stereotypes and gay culture… They strut out on stage and without a moment of hesitation or shame, unleash epic poems of intentionally offensive obscenity, all with a smile and a sense of style no audience can resist. Although many have argued this charisma can be redirected into child-appropriate entertainment, education and advocacy, the reality demonstrates otherwise. Drag queens can't turn it off. Whether in front of a cheering crowd in a gay bar or a room full of kids at a library, the performance doesn't change. They cannot translate the magic so many of us enjoy on stage to something children can understand. Worse, far too many have chosen to disregard the concept of appropriateness altogether, performing dance routines, wearing costumes and portraying the same bombastic, and overtly sexual characters in front of kids as they would in front of adults.

By its very nature, drag is already unsuitable for children, based on the culture it flourished in and the way the artform communicates to its audience. It barely translates outside of the LGBTQ cultural bubble. The more you remove these elements, the less it resembles drag and the more it looks like advocacy for something kids just shouldn't be exposed to. You take away the cursing, the sexual inuendo, the revealing clothes, the provocative dress and the sharp political commentary, and you are left with an adult man in a dress mocking women and trying to convince children he is an ambassador for an entire community.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

"Cis" is misogyny
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spoiler"CIS"
IS THE MOST EXTREME FORM OF MISOGYNY
It is both a term of abuse and
a form of linguistic apartheid
It robs women of their unique sexual identity.
It Intimidates them into accepting the absurd
proposition that any man can become
a biological female just by announcing it.

( hard_headed_woman )
I simply refuse to be lumped into a subcategory of my own sex.

( chocolatefondant21 )
It’s a made up word for trans-identifying people to not feel like the freaks that they are.

( Jehane )
This. What annoys me about this term is that TIMs claim it's important to illustrate the difference between women and themselves. They claim it's for "clarity". As soon as you point out that using "women" versus "transwomen" is perfectly fine and that everybody will understand what you're talking about, they bristle and insist that no, you have to have a separate category of women, because they know they'll never be seen as real women. So they pretend that there's something like a general category of women that can be divided into cis and trans. These are the same people insisting on inclusion, yet they come up with bullshit like this and an ever-growing acronym to create more apartheid.

( Women1st )
🎯

It’s a slur meant to validate males

( SakuraBlossoms )
It's certainly not the most extreme form of misogyny. It is however the claim that we "identify" with the misogynistic social constructs used to oppress us.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

( Redmage )
Took my kid to a toy store, not a fetish store
But yet, tim behind us in line and my TODDLER is staring and confused.

I'm just stressed out and needed to complain.

( itsnotaboutewe )
I complained about TiMs being everywhere to a friend and she said it's only natural that trans people are waiting in line at the ATM, browsing the aisles at the chemist, in the women's toilets at the playground, etc, because trans people are normal people and do normal, everyday things. I replied that they are AGP men who have decided to take their fetish public. Every time they are standing behind you at the chemist in their stockings and short skirt they are using everyone around them for sexual gratification. I said it should never be normal for a man to use strangers, including children, as his personal sex toys in public. I also told her that every time she smiles at one of these men or calls him ma'am, she is tickling his balls.

( Redmage )
If I walked into a sex toy store, I would be perfectly ok with Tims being there. They're wearing fetish wear in a fetish store.

( pegasusknight )
I saw a TIM skipping around in a dress that barely covered his junk in the middle of the day. Like, a dude in his 40’s+ basically dancing around and obviously trying to call attention to himself. 🤦‍♀️

It’s really frustrating, especially in cases like this where it’s really obvious and we can all see what they’re doing, but if you tried to complain about this on social media everyone would say, “um, she’s just living her best life, sweaty 💅!”

I don’t really know what the solution is, but yes, it blows.

( Begbie )
I'm in Glasgow for a break and I watched a TIM in a short black dress get yelled at across the street by some drunks last night. "Transgender shite" was one of the things IIRC. I was with my trans teen at the time (she just looks like a girl with short hair).

It was an interesting experience. On the walk home I referred to him as a man in a dress. Interesting that Glaswegians are just ready to call them out in it, something that never happens in Nor Cal. I wonder if my kid will file this away as evidence of the trans genocide? Terf Island truly delivered on this one.

Eva Kurilova #transphobia evakurilova.com

The Bad Theology of Gender Ideology

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In relation to gender ideology itself, the ideologues champion exactly this kind of reversal—that the interior is real and the exterior is unreal. “Gender identity,” when its proponents deign to try to define it, is described as an inner knowing or a strongly held belief or feeling. This turns into not only a decreased focus on the physical (and hence absurdities like men on women’s sports teams) but often a downright hatred of it (via barbaric surgical procedures).

The “perfect realm of abstract ideals” in gender ideology is the realm of soul-like “gender identities” that supersede the sensual and the material. These gender identities are supposed to override people’s sexual orientations, our sense of fairness and safety, and even our very eyes. The actual physical bodies of others are not supposed to matter in any way whatsoever.

If you think that physical bodies do matter, then you are accused of hatred. It can be shocking the first time one encounters this histrionic accusation, but it makes perfect sense when you see it as projection. The people who ascribe reality only to their subjective internal reality have contempt, as Merton says, for the external world. Because you acknowledge and live in the external world, they hate you too.

Gender ideologues and the woke have no right to force this religious stance on us and act like we are bad people if we don’t accept it. No, I don’t accept it. The external, physical world matters, whether you want to look at it from a spiritual, realistic, or purely practical lens.

At its core, this elevation of the internal over the external is Gnosticism, whether the attitude is displayed by monks or trans activists. It is a rejection of reality and life in favor of an idealized world that isn’t actually real. It is a rejection of reality that has the potential to leave devastation in its wake.

At least with the wayward monk, this error stops on a personal level. The postmodern Gnostics, however, want to hasten the destruction of this world to make way for the new, perfect world created in their highly disordered internal image.

Ken Ham #forced-birth #fundie #homophobia #transphobia twitter.com

Noah built the Ark about 4,300 years ago. This event was both a judgment and a message of salvation. The Flood was a major geological, anthropological, and biological event in the history of the earth and humanity. If the Flood really happened, which it did, then most of the fossil record is the graveyard of that event. Yet evolutionists use the fossil record as supposed evidence of millions of years as part of the evolutionary story in regard to earth and life. Secularists claim the Ark Noah built couldn’t have fit all the land animal kinds as the bible teaches. They therefore say this event never happened. But the bible makes it clear the building of the Ark and the Flood of Noah really did happen in history.

If the events of the Ark and Flood are true, then all humans are descendants of Noah (who build the Ark) back to the first man Adam.

To deal with these issues and more, Answers in Genesis decided to build a life-size Ark based on the dimensions in the bible and fill it with exhibits answering the attacks people level at the bible’s account of Noah’s Flood. The building of this Ark was done to remind people of the truth of God’s Word and call them to salvation.

“But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.” (Matthew 24:37)

Regardless of how Christians may interpret Matthew 24 in regard to eschatology, there’s no doubt that this verse refers to the rebellion and judgment of Noah’s day. Christ used the catastrophic Flood that occurred over 4,300 years ago to warn of impending judgment. Many Christians believe this verse also alludes to the coming final judgment when Christ returns and makes a New Heaven and New Earth.

What was it like in Noah’s day? Genesis 6:5 states, “Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.”

I believe it has been the right time to build a full scale model of Noah’s Ark!

[…]

Why was it the time right to build another Ark? Well, today there is great rebellion against God and His Word in the land. With increasing homosexual behavior and a growing acceptance of abortion and other moral evils (gender transition etc), God’s hand of judgment is being seen as He withdraws the restraining influence of His Holy Spirit.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: AFAB is now a TERF dogwhistle. Now what ?

( heremirore )
The goal here is to stop women from referencing sex.

( ItsCalculated )
This. They want to punish speech and thought crime. They want control.

They want to erase the line between us because it invalidates them. That line, however, is immutable. Sex is immutable. They may as well try to erase gravity or time.

( songoftheworms )
Yep! TRAs are existentially threatened by women's development of class consciousness.

( kin_kkum )
They don't want "AFAB" to be replaced by anything. They simply do not want women to have any terms to refer to ourselves at all. They don't want women having the right to exclude men, not even in language. They don't want to acknowledge that women exist as our own class. They want to dominate us in every arena of our lives, including our own thoughts and language. I predict that even the more offensive terms like "menstruators" "birthing people" etc will also become "TERF dogwhistles" to them because as degrading they might be to us, they still reference a biological reality that only women experience. They are seeking a reality where we cannot discuss anything about ourselves that doesn't include them. The only way out is for this bizarre ideology to end.

( shewolfoffrance )
The euphemism treadmill will go on. They don't want women to have the language to talk about themselves as a class. But, they'll inevitably invent some new, degrading, nonsensical term to refer to the category of human beings they envy, and can never be. And the cycle will begin anew because they simply can't not talk about women.

( PlainSimpleTailor )
Yep. AFAB/AMAB was a loophole to justify trans identities and gender while still vaguely gesturing at the notion of biological sex. Therefore they could always claim that people criticizing gender ideology were just "confusing sex and gender, which are two totally different things". Now they've ran into tons of problems with that, so they want to eradicate any reference to biological sex.

( mathlover )
They don't like it because they think it is a sneaky way to refer to sex that is "transphobic". Eg: lesbians who specify AFAB only on dating apps now get banned for being "transphobes" because AFAB excludes the larping men.

( Dee )
We are living through a dystopian hell hole and few people realize it. What else is new?

Erik Carlson #wingnut #transphobia #racist #conspiracy badlands.substack.com

Recently, I saw a statistic that 3% of Chinese families don’t have a father in their homes. 4% of Indian families (India) don’t have a father in their homes. 23% of American families don’t have a father in their homes. 6-7 times more American families don’t have a father in their home than in China or India.

Why do I bring this up? I believe for many young Americans; Barack Obama is a father figure.

I believe Obama is a CIA-created character, and I don’t think it’s that big of a stretch to believe he was at least partially created to be a father figure for young Americans who were desperately in need of one. He may not physically be in their homes, but he was in their homes every night on the television. He was, in the eyes of many, the perfect dad—calm, cool and dare I say, caring.
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If not for Obama’s presidency, we probably wouldn’t have men using women’s bathrooms, or children mutilating their own bodies because they believe they were born in the wrong body, or transvestite drag queens reading pornography to children in public libraries, or as much racial tension, or athletes taking a knee during the National Anthem. Actually, if Obama was never created by the CIA, what would we even be talking about today? Imagine someone going into a coma in 2007 and waking up today: would they even recognize the world they now live in?
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When people say the Covid mandates and the Trans, LGBTQ+, and woke policies in general are straight out of Nazi Germany, they aren’t exaggerating. What we are currently experiencing was used 80 to 90 years ago to create the Nazi Party. There is very little difference between the two.

The purpose of the Hitler Youth and the indoctrination that is happening to the youth of America today is to steal a generation away from its parents and grandparents. The Deep State, through Obama, understands that children are more easily molded than older adults. Children can be effectively shaped through propaganda, fear and fear of being ostracized.

Got Questions Ministry #sexist #transphobia gotquestions.org

The phenomenon of gender reversals is escalating in our day with sex-change surgeries and demands that the “transgendered” be accommodated. People are abandoning their natural identities and mentally identifying as any gender they choose. Society is indulging this behavior, which leads to even more confusion. For those struggling with gender confusion, the answer lies not in altering their physical bodies, but in allowing the Holy Spirit to change their hearts (1 Peter 4:2). When we submit ourselves fully to the lordship of Jesus, we desire to follow His design for us, rather than choose our own design (Galatians 2:20).

For a man to despise his gender and identify as a woman, or for a woman to abandon her gender and present herself as a man, is wrong. It is a defiance of God’s design when He created male and female. Deuteronomy 22:5 says, “A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the LORD your God detests anyone who does this.” This command was not as much about clothing as it was about guarding the sanctity of what it means to be a man or a woman. Romans 1 shows that gender confusion is merely a symptom of a bigger problem. When people reject God’s authority and set themselves up as their own gods, chaos results. Verses 21 and 22 illustrate the problem: “For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools.”

Thinking that we know better than God is the doorway to becoming a fool. When a man defies his masculinity or a woman rejects her femininity, it is a symptom of grosser sin: rejection of God’s ultimate authority. The closer we grow to God, the more we can embrace our gender identity. Both genders display certain aspects of God’s character in a unique way. When we pervert His choice for us, we limit the opportunities He gives us to demonstrate the glory of being created in His image (Genesis 1:27).

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

A beginner's guide to TiMs

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( sylviasmushrooms )
Oh God. I’ve met every single one of these, many times. Every single TIM I’ve ever met IRL fits so neatly into one of these categories that it’s eerie, even the specific parts hit like 85%!

( Persimmon64 )
I'd add one more HSTS category - the effeminate gay boy who "realized" he's a woman as a teen/young adult after he discovered most guys didn't want to screw him and found the idea of it repulsive. He also has had extensive plastic surgery and tries to "pass" the best he can so he can keep his sex secret from his dates or hookups. He gets off on the idea of stealing men from real women and the idea that the straight guys that found him gross before are now "attracted" to him. Has hatred and contempt for women due to jealousy and other gay men due to his own internalized homophobia.

( Sameseks )
So that Kelly Cadigan on Twitter who literally made a video admitting that he realized he was gay in his youth and didn’t like it

Now spends time being overtly homophobic towards other gay men

It’s just depressing

( m0RT_ )
UGH, i hate the fact that I can now recognize these types easily now.

I was blissfully ignoring these damn pathetic kinks until they started coming for women's sexed based rights and I peaked. Can't wait for this to be sorted out in the law so I can go back to completely ignoring what happens in their grotty bedrooms.

( OneStarWolf )
It’s missing all the delusional and naive TIFs that will handmaiden hard for these men, all while slowly crippling and killing themselves with excess T.

Fritz Berggren #fundie #racist #conspiracy #transphobia #homophobia bloodandfaith.com

[From “That Middle-East Thing…”]

The fight between the Moslems and Jews, the Israelis and Palestinians[…]proves a simple point: We truly cannot get along. God made different nations and He has no desire that we all become one people

Humans were not made to get along. We need our own land and culture and language and beliefs and space. Forced integration is the most anti-human thing you can do to people

Israel and Hamas/Hezbollah are in a death match. You think it will be any different to import them to Europe and America? Do you expect the to become “good little universalists?” All this is lies. They Jews will drive the Moslem out of Gaza and them some lighbulb will decide they all need to move to Europe or America. There is a war against the White and Christian race

Our war is in our homelands. We are invaded, egged on by traitors and Jews who hate the White race. Whites who side with the Jews are traitors to their ancestors (breaking the Fifth Commandment) and traitors against Jesus Christ. They have joined the fraternity of Judas Iscariot. This applies to Trump’s daughter as well as the Biden family who have united with the Jews. Like Judas Iscariot, Biden has betrayed Jesus[…]
I realize this is “extreme” speech, but only “extreme” speech is free speech. Everything outside the approved conversation is “extreme”[…]
Do you think they’ve reached the limits of their depravity with trannies in grade school? Think again. Five years ago no one could have even imagined an evil like this. But it’s here

Give it a few more years and they will find new evils. The hidden depopulation agenda will become less hidden, and less “conspiracy.” Anyone opposing trannies, homos, depopulation, abortion, sex with children, “voluntary” human sacrifice, … will be deemed “extremist,” and potential domestic terrorists, Today’s Soccer Mom’s attending PTA meetings and opposing the Tranny Agenda went on FBI watch lists. Do you really think we are on the cusp of liberty?

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

( NO )
I honestly hate the TQ.

They're homophobic, misogynistic, absolutly terrible people.

Stop involving me in your fetish.

Stop forcing me to be around you in private spaces.

Stop telling me my sexuality is bad

Stop telling me I'm wrong

Stop forcing me to follow your religion.

You guys are just bigoted religious zealots.

( Feminist_strength )
I hate to generalize, but I agree with you. I’ve been around many “queer” people, and literally none of them are mentally stable. They have a superiority complex. And most of them are creepy. Anyone who identifies as trans provokes an instant “ick” in my gut.

( Tanana )
The TQ are parasites to the LGB. I just want to have nothing to do with those clowns.

( Spinstaa )
Just ridiculous! Where are all the so called allies talking about this?! Oh, right ! They only care about “queer” people. Who most are heterosexual.

I think it’s wild in my lifetime, I’ve seen same sex marriage legalized and those relationships being seen as a normal thing. To now. Where we can hate same sex attracted people, as long as we SAY we support the queer community (mostly heterosexual community)

DJKTRON , Sonnet & opreroma #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Follow the money- the strong link with trans ideology and pedophilia

( DJKTRON )
There's a money link and an obvious intellectual link. I've found it glaringly obvious from pretty much the get go that this was a bridge to normalizing and legalizing pedophilia. It's a short walk from "children can consent gender transition" to "children can consent to sex with adults." This is not a coincidence; it's the entire point.

( Sonnet )
“No kids are getting surgeries, that’s transphobic right-wing fear mongering.”

“A tiny number of kids are getting surgeries but they are a rare and life-saving intervention.”

“What right do you have to tell someone else’s child what to do with their bodies? Mind your own business. Teenage girls already get breast reductions and augmentations, so what? These are medically valid surgeries, otherwise doctors wouldn’t do them.”

< —— YOU ARE HERE

“You think a child old enough to decide about having her breasts removed is too young to consent to showing her breasts to an adult? Kids know who they are. Clutch your pearls harder. Right-wing purity culture. Sexist shame about women’s bodies. ~Won’t somebody think of the children.~”

( opreroma )
This is such a good point. A while back, I asked someone, "If children can't consent to sexual intercourse, then why can they consent to sexual reassignment surgery?" They danced around the subject, after which I felt very numb. Because I realized that was the point all along.

( DJKTRON )
Yea, they danced around because the reality is they do think children can consent. This is one of the resultant horrors of having a culture that says any sexual activity is acceptable as long as the participants consent. That proposition is obviously not true because that would make necrophilia, statutory rape, adultery, and incest morally acceptable sexual activity. Somehow the idea that there's more to sex than consent is now deemed puritanical religious extremism.

ETA: the specific sophistry/error is that they are confusing a necessary condition for a sufficient condition. Consent is a necessary condition, but not a sufficient condition. This is why some people intuitively know that incest, etc. is wrong, but they struggle to articulate why it's still wrong if the participants consent.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

( Bubsy3D )
Pushing back on genderist language. I mean all of it

[...]

So to return to the beginning, gender fetishists do not use a pronouns, they demand others to use a pronouns, and that's how we should talk about it.

They do not identify as man/woman/enby, nor do they think that they're one. If they really thought that they're the opposite sex, having their sex correctly identified would be met with genuine confusion and not rage. So in reality they demand other people to pretend that they're man/woman/enby.

It is NOT about "who they are". It's just stealing the narrative of LGB. Trans identity literally, directly requires participation of the other people. If people don't believe in their bs, they feel like they stop existing.

[...] I'd really like to see GC not use genderist language. If you have any more suggestions on how to reframe their concepts or suggest concepts for discussion, I'd love to hear it, because I'm too tired to cover the entire thing. Like should we call genderism a cult? A religion? A front?

( Unicorn )
I had a silly shower thought of TERFs taking back the term "misgender."

Someone calling Jessica Johathan Yaniv a woman? That's misgendering; he's a man who identifies as a transwoman.

Someone calling Buck Angel a man? That's some serious misgendering right there, she's a woman who identifies as a transman.

I'm so curious what would happen if this was attempted. Let's start confusing everybody, just like TRAs do when they misuse sex and gender! Remember, according to trans activists, words have no meaning!

( WatcherattheGates )
I have dropped the word "gender" almost entirely from my vocabulary. I talk about biological sex, and I talk about societally-imposed sex roles, sex norms, and sex expectations.

( Opals )
I don’t use ‘trans woman’, etc. They are ‘men who wish that they were women’ and so on

( RuneOwl )
I like “men who identify as transwomen”, it really gets to the point but also doesn’t confuse the average person by introducing new terms. I want them to start associating “transwoman” with man, because that’s the word they’ll most often be hearing.

( RusticTroglodyte )
I refuse to use "transwomen" unless I'm being sarcastic in reply to a TRA. I refer to them as trans identified males, men LARPing as women, etc

various commenters #transphobia #enbyphobia twitter.com

( @libsoftiktok )
This is a book called “Neither” and the suggested age range is 3-6. It teaches toddlers that they can be nonbinary and that there are many genders.

The author travels around to schools reading it to kids.

They’re after your kids.
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( @JimJawja )
Something that gets lost here is that in this age range, toddlers are forming vocabulary and language skills. So these books quite literally seek to program toddlers with a very specific vocabulary. That's just sick.

( @ChrisB_Chambers )
They've been after kids for decades, they've just increased their efforts lately. And you are exposing them.

So sick and twisted. All of these pedophiles should be behind bars and miles away from children.

( @jake_j0hnson )
The so called "Trans Community" has an agenda to greatly expand their numbers and they know that the only way to do that is to go after the kids. This is an all out assault on kids with many so called "teachers" pushing this disgusting agenda.

( @TanyaNe00441025 )
Targeting to be nonbinary. They are openly targeting children now. He say it out loud.

( @hyoozuz )
But you're a Fascist Nazi book burner if you try to get those books out of the schools.

Disgusting.

( @rocks_lax )
No such thing as “non-binary”. Completely made up ideology rhetoric

( @BigPoppaSwan )
Pushing gender ideology on toddlers who can't even tie their own shoes yet? Kids should be learning ABCs, not LGBTQs. Let them be kids without adult agendas clouding their innocence. School is for education, not indoctrination.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

( unlearningtrans )
“TERF ideology”
Anyone else noticing they are now saying our pro-reality stance/advocating for child safeguarding is itself an “ideology”? Insane inversion going on as per usual. Someone dropped “TERF ideology” on me in the real world recently. Boggles the mind. I was like, say more. They went off about anti-trans hatred, the enormous genocide, white supremacy. We’re both white women but she of course has a loved one who is trans-identified so I understand why it riles her up.

( legopants )
It's because we say gender ideogy and they can't think of a single thing themselves.

( Calidris )
Literally all their arguments are either childish make belief, blatant lies, or "no, u". They are like apes who throw shit and just see what sticks. That's why I don't get women on our side trying to debunk their arguments. They don't even believe there arguments! They just use them as weapons to throw at us so that while we're trying to refute them, they dismantle our human rights. Case in point, they contradict themselves all the time.

Trans people are only now brave and safe enough to come out which is why TIFs increased 4000%. But there's also a trans genocide so trans people have to hide for safety.

A one year old knows he's a girl cause he's trying to make dresses out of onesies, because gender identity is stable and fixed. Gender fluids are totally valid because gender is always changing and very dynamic.

[…]

( Unicorn )
They are creating an artificial dichotomy: gender ideology and "TERF ideology." It's a logical fallacy.

It's kind of like teaching creationism alongside evolution. Religious people can then argue "they're both theories!!" even though the two theories are not of equal validity or sound argument.

( RadFemRiot )
Tell them how you relate.

All female born people are trans because we crave rights of the male born and we are persecuted for not being the male born default. We have biological functions the male born cannot though, which makes us inherently different. All female born are trans which is why afab want separate from Amab.

Use the terminology as they imply it to mean.

( Sameseks )
TERF ideology: someone who says the truth about sex and gender, but they're a woman

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

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( ProxyMusic )
He probably has a forced-feeding fetish.

( Ptarmagant )
Ewww. That is such a possibility.

( RusticTroglodyte )
I doubt that it would include a feeding tube and a hospital bed in the prison infirmary lmao

Eta: then again he's a pornsick pervert so who knows

( sojourner_truth_ )
Entitled violent pervert uses emotional manipulation to get access to more female victims, news at 11.

( Hollyhock )
I have never understood hunger strikes, despite some of the people doing it I admire for their causes. Suffragettes, Ghandi are a few.

But, I still don't understand it. Why does one person's choice to starve make others cave to their demands? I honestly don't get it...it's always seemed like only an mentally unwell person would choose this.

( TheSimbul )
Good.

Die, you useless piece of shit.

Peppermint & TwoXChromosomes #transphobia ovarit.com

EXCLUSIVE: Leading womb transplant experts say it's 'medically possible' for transgender women to have natural pregnancies - and they hope to offer procedure to trans couples in years | Daily Mail Online

( Peppermint )
There's always the comment that goes like this "I have no problem with transgender people living as they wish..but...." Let's just say NO. I don't agree with them "living as they wish." We're usually if not always talking about MEN and "living as they wish" means intruding and destroying the rights of women, children and in this case unborn humans. NO WAY.

These horrific experiments and unnecessary procedures should be along the same ethical lines of cloning humans. And to that end any attempts to have humans gestated and/or born from jars or men's bodies should be against the law. It should be considered undesirable and not ever the best start for any human being on the planet.

And I would go on to say, it should NEVER happen unless a "womb" from a woman who is willing to give birth is no longer available on the planet. And to further deconstruct that I mean we have 0 humans being born everywhere for whatever reason. Even then we might want to reconsider continuing the human race at all. And I hate to say this but it sounds like we need to go there.

Humans do not ever need to be born of men and its not something we should want especially for the humans involved. The imaginary "needs" of a man should not ever be considered over the baby in this case. These men need to get some real mental health already. Children have suffered enough!

( TwoXChromosomes )
You know, I started writing a book about a dystopian future 40 years from now in which everything in the world catered to these sick weirdos. This was one of the items on my list of fucked up shit that would hopefully never happen, but would in my dystopia.

It took exactly TWO years for my dystopia to become real...

various commenters #wingnut #homophobia #transphobia gab.com

( @SomeBitchIKnow )
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( @StephenFlemmi )
@SomeBitchIKnow It's not rocket science guys. They're terrible people and I have a wood chipper in my garage.

( @RDF20 )
@SomeBitchIKnow
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( @StormChaser126 )
@SomeBitchIKnow Need to add, "Just remove the kids' genitalia" to the list.
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( @VotedPerot )
@SomeBitchIKnow And degrade the rainbow and take over the meaning of the word gay.

( @Gamerfanboy )
@VotedPerot @SomeBitchIKnow get over it.

( @Ilion )
@Gamerfanboy You faggots are so adorable -- you refuse to see that once they have total power, the leftists will be sending you all to the death-camps along with the Christians.

( @HauntedHighway216 )
@SomeBitchIKnow
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Stew Peters #wingnut #transphobia #psycho #racist mediamatters.org

Rumble host and X influencer Stew Peters called for the murder of Catholic Charities workers[…]

STEW PETERS: These people cross into Mexico and coach illegals on how to get admitted here. They pay for their bus tickets to the cities that you and I live in[…]
A lot of people say that we need troops on the border who will shoot the people trying to sneak across. I agree. They're invading our country. The military's sole function is to protect its country from a physical invasion and to protect you and I and the people that I love and the people that you love from any harm that might come as a result of her invasion[…]We need troops on the border that will shoot people that are trying to invade our country

That'd be a good first step. But you know what a better second step would be? Shooting everyone involved with these fake charities

Peters later implored his audience to buy a gun and learn how to shoot[…]“If they come for your guns, you better be ready to die in a pile of spent shell casings”

Shortly after talking about buying guns and learning how to use them, Peters also turned his attention to public schools, stating: “I don’t think that we should just bail and go homeschool. No, we freaking fund these public schools. We go there and we fight them and we root them out and we restore our schools to teach what they're supposed to. Hundreds of thousands of kids are attending Christian schools — not fake ones like the ones that we have Pride flags in. Can you believe that?”

He then talked about killing doctors who provide gender-affirming care, stating:

STEW PETERS: We're really lucky because the Bible itself already tells us what the punishment should be. From the gospel of Matthew, quote: “But who so shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me. It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.” That sounds like a great idea. Isn't it?

legopants , bluff & Persimmon64 #transphobia ovarit.com

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( legopants )
so pathetic. I actually got such bad secondhand embarrassment reading that. "They're trying to kill us :'''(" "I don't wanna die :'(((" get tf over yourself, dude. Your chances of actually being murdered go up MASSIVELY if you were a woman. You're falling to pieces and having a mental breakdown because some fake words that are entirely a lie that you read on a screen scare you? You'll never know how it feels to walk alone at night. Do you really think you could handle being a woman and what we deal with when you're cry typing and terrified over literally NOTHING? I don't think it's the blissful escape you've so deluded yourself to think. what a prick.

ETA: notice how he's fine with women having our rights taken away but not trans people. literally says it flat out. "i dont want my rights being taken away because I'm trans" followed by "being allowed to be a girl and have my rights taken away . I would mind much less"

I don't care how young this dude is he has no sympathy from me. That is such disgusting behavior and comments to make and shows his already porn rotting brain. Humanity is doomed.

( bluff )
Agreed. Cat's out of the bag with porn and I don't believe men will ever change. Sometimes I wish our planet would just get nuked already, the future is bleak when considering his sex class controls the world.

I don't like to hate people but I hate these people so much. We are just a fetish to them, not people who deserve dignity and rights. He even says it'd be better to be killed as a "girl." I hope he drowns.

( Persimmon64 )
"tehrye making it illegal to be ourselves"

They're making it illegal to violate same sex spaces and categories, lie about your sex, and give cosmetic surgeries and harmful drugs to minors.

No one needs drugs and surgery to "be themselves." If anything, they're making it "harder" for you to pass yourself off as something you're not. In other words, they're actually just requiring and encouraging you to "be yourself"

sodonewiththis , shveya & somegenerichandle #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: AFAB is now a TERF dogwhistle. Now what ?

( sodonewiththis )
Hahaha! So funny. I’ve already seen this use of AFAB in the wild among my children’s friends

They’ve all been raised to use pronouns and gender terminology religiously. And they are all incredibly pro-trans. Which is frankly understandable given how many trans kids they know — really nice kids too, who I desperately hope don’t grow up to suffer from serious medical issues.

But somehow even these incredibly pro-trans kids always end up needing a word to describe … well … you know … women.

For example, no right thinking Gen Z teenage girl would ever say she don’t want a trans woman gynecologist. But they will explain to you that “it’s uncomfortable to deal with AMABs in certain situations” so “I kind of feel like I’d rather have an AFAB gynecologist.”

Recently I overheard a conversation between several preteens about the bathrooms issue. And — I kid you not — they solemnly agreed that the “fair” solution to bathrooms would be to just get rid of “girls” and “boys” bathrooms and have “an AFAB bathroom, andAMAB bathroom, and a Unisex bathroom.”

I’m sure they aren’t the only Gen Z kids to come up with this solution. And no doubt that’s why the TRAs are now decreeing that AFAB is a transphobic term — even though they are the ones who forced it on us in the first place.

As someone who has dutifully read my De Mann, I can’t help but observe that it certainly seems like some words do represent a priori categories that are pre-existent to language and culture. And when we outlaw those words people seem to be quite ingenious at finding new words to signify those categories!

( shveya )
These guys are so authoritarian. Even when women obey them, it's not good enough. They have the right (in their minds) to tell us what to call ourselves, but heaven forbid we aren't 100%subservient towards their pornified whims.

This is why I'll always tell libfems that there's no point in caping for them. You're a woman, so nothing you could do to please them will ever be enough.

( somegenerichandle )
Yeah, i agree. I've seen TIFs unironically make statements about AFAB when they want to talk about sex, not gender. And i definitely think they will rebrand it. This whole issue has made women constantly modify their language, such as women born womyn.

ammyn aten #transphobia #pratt youtube.com

I agree that both transtrenders exist and that as of this day in 2023, they are the widespread reason people dislike trans people. Im a bisexual cis male with a trans male partner, im perfectly accepting and tolerant of trans people, but it really makes me wish i wasnt because at this rate its a fad and a social contagion. I feel bad for people who deal with gender disphoria, who get compared with teens handling very normal feelings during adolescence and watching a few tik toks and suddenly thinking their half cow.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Where do you stand?
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( Triselly )
I appreciate this comment may be removed, but what's the number for barely considering these monsters to be human anymore?

They are broken males who have forfeited their souls to their libidos.

( Lemonade_Masquerade )
Yeah, I keep it tamer on this site but I genuinely hate men who call themselves women. 10-15 years ago I was ignorant to how many there were, so I was mostly apathetic to them. They seemed like one of many breeds of sexist men, but a low priority issue. I consider that a mistake on my part. Now that I know they are actively trying to erode women's rights and teach children to hate their bodies and sterilize themselves, as well as co opting the LGB movement for themselves and their homophobic ends, I will not ignore them or underestimate them again. I may call them men here, but that's only because my preferred words are banned on this site. They've shot up my shit list ahead of incels/PUAs, male politicians, and "good christian" men in record time.

No concessions. No compromise. No "good" trans who gets a free pass for acknowledging sex. No men in women's spaces. Full stop.

( Chronicity )
I’m a 8.

TW are disturbed men who have been brainwashed into psychologically, chemically and physically harming themselves. Validating their identities is an assault on feminism when it requires us to pretend men can know what it feels like to be a woman.

( hard_headed_woman )
I'm a 10.

TW are men, who belong in the category of males for every aspect of their lives. I fight to rid the world of men larping as women on official documents like drivers' licenses and passports. I reject the claim that men know what it "feels" like to be a woman. I reject all medical interventions for any person under the age of 25, and do not believe that governments or insurance companies should pay for transgender cosmetic services and surgeries.

( unlearningtrans )
I think transgender medicine should be banned for anyone but agree that under 25 is a good place to start.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Over half of transgender prisoners in Wisconsin are sex offenders

( itsnotaboutewe )
They have a choice. Either

1. Transgender identifying males are far more likely to be sexual offenders than the normal male prison population, or

2. Men who are not transgender are pretending to be trans just to invade women's spaces.

They have to choose one of those two explanations. If trans identifying males are more likely to be sex offenders than ordinary men, there is even more of a need for them to be kept out of all female spaces. If some men are falsely claiming to be trans in order to infiltrate female spaces, and there is no test to prove if they are really trans or not, then all males regardless of how they identify need to be kept out of female spaces. Simple.

( pennygadget )
Honestly, I'm surprised the number is that low

( MissBehaved )
They're just the ones who got convicted for that. Given the extremely low rate of rape convictions, we can safely assume the number is higher (and for other men too of course).

( OneStarWolf )
This. These were the very few trans id men that were actually caught AND convicted of a sex crime. The real number is probably much higher since we know the vast majority of these sex based offenders either never get caught/not reported or are not convicted.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if TiMs have a 70+ percent sex crime rate. The FBI has known for years that transsexualism was a common comorbidity and paraphilia with pedos, rapists, and serial killers that target women. There are so many creepy fucking men out there and it seems they’re all catching on to the trans cheat.

( Mandy )
So the question is, are they sex offenders because they're transwomen, or did they become transwomen when they were convicted of sex offenses?

( RusticTroglodyte )
Since a requirement to being a tim is to be pornsick, (at least the majority, who transition as adults. The ones who transition in childhood are denied a sex life due to puberty blockers) and pornsick men need to keep escalating, coupled with the fact that trans identified men are entitled and think they can do whatever they want, all the time, I'd say they're sex offenders bc they're trans

Just my unscientific opinion

Anna Perez #fundie #homophobia #transphobia #conspiracy angrywhitemen.org

Anna Perez devoted the Oct. 30, 2023 episode of her Wrongthink Primetime show to claiming that Christians are the “most persecuted group”[…]During the episode she also claimed that “discrimination”[…]is a “key tenet of the Bible” and that Christians have been “too tolerant”

Perez played a clip of MSNBC host and former Biden White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki talking about Speaker of the House Mike Johnson[…]
She also drew attention to anti-gay statements Johnson made and remarked that discrimination is not a “key tenet of the Bible”

“Uh, actually Jen Psaki, discrimination is a key tenet of the Bible,” Perez countered. “Jesus and — even in the Old Testament and the New Testament, by the way, this is true for all of the religions that you claim to defend, yet you have a problem uniquely with Christianity[…]God was very clear in the Old and New Testament where we stood on homosexuality”

“And I hate to break it to you, I hate to burst your bubble, but you should probably re-read it,” she said. “Spoiler alert: He was not exactly in favor of the homosexual lifestyle”

Toward the end of the show, Perez complained that the so-called “uniparty” is “more than happy to not just ignore Christian rights, Christian persecution, but rather to continue to fund it”[…]
Perez referenced the reaction to the Covenant School shooting[…]
“Yes, that is exactly what happened, because some tranny freak, some faggot freakshow, decided to shoot up a school because he/she was uncomfortable with themselves and actually believed that Christians were the problem in this country, because much like many people in the world, they’re convinced that Christians are bad”[…]
“Do not let them tell you that we are not a persecuted class in America. We are the most persecuted class, not just in America, but around the world,” Perez claimed. “Christians are treated terribly. Honestly I believe we’ve been too tolerant. … We cannot let these heathens — these heathens — come against us”

kirisheart , Calidris & AriadneOnNaxos #transphobia ovarit.com

( kirisheart )
How do all the libfem and TRA Potterheads miss how this is just like Order of the Phoenix?
Order of the Phoenix is a wild book to return too, as Harry is quite literally living JK Rowling's reality right now. Harry and JK Rowling are both famous and spoke the truth. Harry told the truth about Voldemort's return and JK Rowling has only ever expressed concerns about women and girls by allowing males to self ID as women and that biological sex is real.

For speaking the truth they have each become hated and smear campaigns turning everyone against them. Have any of you re-read it since this all started? It's wild. Just like with JK Rowling everyone turned on Harry. Dumbledore's Army is basically Radfems and TERFs.

It's just wild how she is living out Harry's reality, only because she's a woman she has has to deal with all the misogyny too.

How are all these potterheads or former potterheads blind to this connection??

( Calidris )
Yes and I'm not kidding when I say, think about this every single day

I wonder what she thinks? Imagine your book weirdly becoming the truth. If it follows as in the books, she'll eventually be vindicated and the TRAs will be chased out by centaurs lol

( AriadneOnNaxos )
Yep. She wrote her principles into a series of books and is living by them, and the very people who grew up on those books (I read them in my 20s) are completely oblivious and hate her passionately for doing exactly what they idolised her protagonists for.

I guess they thought the message of the books was “Owls are cool, you are magic, have some butter beer” or something.

It’s enough to make you give up on the power of art to shape the human psyche.

Timothy Fitzpatrick #conspiracy #racist #wingnut #fundie #homophobia #transphobia #biphobia fitzinfo.net

[From “How the West could co-opt Zionism to rein in Islam and the Left”]

World Jewry is behind the radical Left and the Islamo-African invasion of the West, but Zionism has a script to follow, and it is one that could be exploited for Western gain

Zionism is a tool for world Jewry (elite Jews)[…]For many average Jews (especially conservative ones), Zionism is the end[…]These are the kind of Zionists with which the West could ally in order to help battle world Jewry’s greater plans of using the Left and Islam to clear the world of whites, Christians, and conservatives in preparation for their world Communist Hasidic empire

The Zionist script is fundamentally nationalistic, moralistic, and ethno-centric, which is what the West had been up until about the 1960s when world Jewry introduced their immigration schemes and cultural Marxism. World Jewry doesn’t care for nationalism because world Jewry is cosmopolitan[…]
The trick for us is to use the Western-friendly aspects of Zionism to keep Islam and the Left under control[…]World Jewry knows that Zionism does not have the full support of the West and conservatives, and it prefers it this way so that it doesn’t have to push too hard in advancing the conservative values that little Jews want[…]World Jewry just advances Zionism enough that it suits their cause of keeping the Middle East perpetually destabilized[…]draining America and Britain’s reserves, and in turning the world against the West[…]
World Jewry fears the little Jews realizing that they are being played by their elder brothers, so they must meet their demands[…]
More Jews would have to support Zionism[…]Zionism is losing a lot of support in Israel itself, as many Israeli Jews are moving toward the Left. The evidence of this is the growing support for LGBT, unfettered immigration, and anti-Zionism in Israel. The popular anti-Bibi rhetoric is an effect of this and not some awakening to the Soviet Israel control over the region as it might seem

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

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( fightlikeagirl )
That's the same guy that posted yesterday about how he lies to men for sex, claiming to be female when he's post-op TIM. Sorry not sorry if women don't empathize with a rapist.

( UncomfortablElla )
Also he has a post where he talks about having spoken to several lawyers to make sure that sleeping with someone (having lied and tricked them into thinking you're a woman) is technically not rape. Very scary to obsess like that over the technical definitions of consent to make sure you can get away with as much as possible while violating someone else

( RusticTroglodyte )
No shit. I'll never understand what it's like to be a pornsick man with a severe sex fetish.

Any other late breaking news, dumbass?

( crispycherrypie )
Just replace "trans woman" with "men" and you have typical MRA talking points.

I wonder why that could be!

( Women1st )
Ok- what is your point? I don’t give a shit about your experience. Why you ask? Because you have degraded womanhood by claiming it. You have invaded our spaces, which shows you don’t get it. You have stolen our awards, titles, and accomplishments.

I am living my best life. I am containing cocks. As a matter of fuck, sorry, fact, I am about to copulate with a married man in 1 hour. I am getting ready

This right here is the pervert’s idea of womanhood. This is the complete degradation of womanhood.

BRAVE Books, Kirk Cameron and the Babylon Bee #wingnut #homophobia #transphobia #sexist babylonbee.com

NOT SATIRE: What if Growing Pains was shot in 2023? In Kirk Cameron's humorous remake "Grooming Pains," a father asks his son, "How was school?" Here is his response: "It was great! We practiced the "Pride of Allegiance," We learned about girl math and boy math, and we recited the black national anthem. Football ran long today because it was our first practice with Krystyna playing quarterback for the first time!"

Even as a joke, this isn't too far off from the crazy world we live in… It's a sad reality that so many forms of entertainment have been taken over by woke agendas. Now is the time to find alternatives for our children to grow up with and enjoy without being brainwashed.

Enter BRAVE Books! THE Christian children's book company that only publishes pro-God, pro-America content. BRAVE's latest release was authored by Kirk Cameron and is titled The Fox, the Fair, and the Invention Scare on the topic of loving your enemies. Get it for FREE when you subscribe to get a new book each month through the Freedom Island Book Club. BRAVE is THE alternative entertainment for parents wanting good, wholesome books for their kids!

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Babylon Bee #wingnut #conspiracy #homophobia #transphobia #dunning-kruger babylonbee.com

Libraries are a beacon of knowledge and intellectual pursuit in a civilized society. Or at least they used to be — libraries have changed a lot.

Let's take a look at some of the biggest changes in libraries over the years...

Then: Sweet old lady librarian.

Now: Sweet old lady librarian with a beard named Jeff.

Then: Children checked out books.

Now: Groomer librarian checks out children.

Then: You could find any book with the Dewey Decimal System.

Now: Same but all the books are gay.

Then: Greek architecture supported by load-bearing pillars.

Now: Load-bearing stripper poles.

Then: Kids said, "Books are gay" because they hated reading.

Now: Kids say, "Books are gay" because the books are gay.

Then: Apple IIe with Oregon Trail. Oops! You have died of dysentery.

Now: Same Apple IIe, but with gay porn.

Then: There were 9 planets, as you could learn from any of the astronomy books.

Now: There are still 9 planets, but all the dumb books say there are only 8 for some dumb reason.

Then: Newspapers were stored on microfiche.

Now: Newspapers are stored online. Dang, microfiche was pretty cool too. It made you feel like a spy when researching old newspaper editions. And what are you supposed to do if you need to look up the history of your potentially haunted house now? Not search through hundreds of newspaper issues for the one relevant article detailing a murder that happened on your property a hundred years ago? That's dumb.

Then: Mark Twain was a recommended author.

Now: Mark Twain is a recommended author to burn in effigy.

Then: Large section of history books.

Now: There is no history, only an endless present in which the Party is always right.

This is by no means an exhaustive list. If one were to fully chronicle the changes in libraries it would fill volumes. Who has time for that?

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

( furyosa )
Richard Dawkins Q&A | Can a woman become a man and a man become a woman?
Richard Dawkins answers various questions in this video.

At 42:07 he answers the question "Can a woman become a man and a man become a woman?"

His answer: "No, of course not".

( Agrimonium )
I want to go back to talking about transgenderism like this tbh. No complex explanations, just "of course that's not a real thing" and then move on.

( TheKnitta )
The very basis of it all really is that simple, isn’t it? All the rest is just noise to obfuscate.

( OwnLyingEyes )
The entire bulk of the rest is men who refuse to take no for an answer trying to equivocate that 'no' into a 'yes' (and too many women supporting that attempt, for that matter).

( questioningtw )
IKR. I can't believe we are seriously debating in 2023 on what a man and a woman is.

( Moonflower )
This is great. It’s been incredibly disappointing how so many of the “new atheism” folks I used to look up to in the early/mid 2000’s (like PZ Myers and Hemant Mehta) are now throwing their support behind gender ideology without subjecting it to the same level of criticism or question they used to aim at religious belief. Dawkins was one of the clearest voices among them, and it’s refreshing to see how he just isn’t having any of it.

( sevenfatesforetold )
Gender ideology is the new religion and anyone who carries water for it are its priests

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

The TQ changes everything

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spoilerLGB activism: Your kids are fine
just the way they are. You don't have
to be concerned if they're gender
non-conforming.
activism: Your children
are defective & we're here to correct
their abnormalities with drugs,
clothing, accessories & multiple
surgeries.

( DurableBook )
LGB: "It gets better."

QT: "It will never get better unless you get hormones and surgery and convince literally everyone to see you as the opposite sex, forever, and a single person failing to comply will drive you to suicide."

( Bubsy3D )
LGB defining conversion therapy as: torture aimed to change the person

TQ defining conversion therapy as: absence of torture aimed to change the person

( BillyPilgrim )
I was so confused when I read about people being outraged at laws banning conversion therapy. I thought it was religious groups trying to pray the gay away.

( Unicorn )
What's messed up is when liberal states ban conversion therapy by merging in gay and gender identity as types of conversion therapy into one law. This happened in Washington state.

I fully support banning gay conversion therapy; leave gay people alone, there is nothing wrong with being gay.

However, "gender conversion therapy" is nonsense. Now therapists in Washington state can lose their license and get fined thousands if they do not "affirm" a patient's gender identity.

( MissBehaved )
LGB TQ: Your children are defective & we're here to correct their abnormalities with drugs, clothing, accessories & multiple surgeries.

( BorealForest )
If instead of telling children to accept their homosexuality, you tell them to reject it and embark on a pursuit for something that is physically impossible to achieve but results in permanent physical and psychological damage, in a disgusting attempt to supposedly fix themselves so that they won't be homosexual anymore, you're the bigot.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

( IrishTheFrenchie )
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If you live somewhere where you can't have a female only event, leave the event open to all "women" and let the TIMs come. Then, because the group is "too large", divide everyone into two groups. The TIMs get to only speed date other TIMs. The women get to speed date other women.

If TIMs complain, it proves they don't see themselves as women. Because if they did, they'd be happy to date a transbian.

I know the best outcome is to be able to exclude these perverts from the get go, but if you can't...

( mathlover )
You have to expend a lot of time and effort to find and separate out lesbians who want to keep TIMS excluded. You go to "inclusive" spaces repeatedly to identify those lesbians - and verify that they are trustworthy - and set up private gatherings.

This takes time. And it is a lot of work. But eventually there is a growing group of lesbians the larping men will never have access to. This is what lesbians had to do so many years ago. We can do it again. We have to.

( Carrots90 )
I love this

When they complain, pretend not to know what they mean

“How do you know without a genital check”

( VestalVirgin )
For everything:

Get a photo of each participant, or better, have a video chat with them.

Rent two locations. The TIMs go to the location you announced beforehand. The actual women go to the other, which is told to them via e-mail.

Of course you'd have to ask women if they are there with someone, and if they are there with TIMs, allocate them to the TIM group.

(Also, it would be good to have a pool of handmaidens who can be recruited to keep the TIMs happy and prevent them from suspecting something. Of course without telling them that's what they're there for. Just invite them for free because they have "done so much for feminism" or some shit. From what I gather, many women on Ovarit are friends with handmaidens whom they haven't told they don't believe in gender religion. Might be hard with lesbian speed dating, but easier for women only music festivals and the like.)

Ok, if you mingle TIMs with handmaidens, that doesn't expose their hypocrisy, but I believe keeping them happy is the better way if you want a women only event.

They very much do not care about being exposed as hypocrites, they'd still have temper tantrums and demand to get to molest some actual lesbians.

Itzpapalotl , DJKTRON & Unicorn #transphobia ovarit.com

Serious ignorance vibes
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( Itzpapalotl )
1. If I had kids I would teach them that biology is immutable but that doesn't have any bearing on hobbies, interests, abilities or personalities...so no, I wouldn’t have a “trans” kid, because there’s no such thing. I also wouldn't have a “queer” kid, my kid would be either gay/lesbian, straight or bisexual - all of which are fine, natural and healthy.

2. “HRT” is to aid women going through menopause, NOT for deluded males. Cross sex hormones are highly experimental, and for anyone with a working brain it should be very obvious that pumping a healthy body full of entirely unnecessary chemicals/artificial hormones is a bad idea.

3. Most people would rather have a bad tattoo that a vastly decreased lifespan, osteoporosis, vaginal atrophy, increased chance of cancer, sterilisation and/or butchered genitals and destroyed sexual function...

4. “Gender” is not biological. Sex is biological and immutable. Single sex spaces for women need to be enforced because men are an inherent threat to us (as proven globally, historically and statistically) regardless of what they wear or believe themselves to be.

Yet again, mind boggling stupidity from dimwitted TRAs.

( DJKTRON )
(1) Since trans is real, when scientists develop a genetic test for it, will they support selective abortion of "trans" fetuses? Or will they support forced birth in that scenario?

(2) So is bloodletting. Are we supposed to bring shit back because it's old? That's the opposite of progress, but the rest of their ideas are also regressive so it makes sense.

(3) It's called the "sunk cost fallacy."

(4) If gender is real, why are they demanding the police state enforce it? GCs want biological sex, which is a material reality, recognized by law. No one needs to enforce reality, but they do need to force us to all play along with their fantasies.

( Unicorn )
Gender is not biological. It is social constructs based on sex-based stereotypes. Sex is biological.

If gender is innate, why does it need a police state to enforce punishing gender critical people for wrongthink?

BondiBlue #transphobia ovarit.com

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- There is no such thing as a “trans or q~eer child.” There are kids who don’t fit into stereotypes. Some turn out to be gay or lesbian. Some are heterosexual, just nonconformist. But a “trans or q~eer child” is either a failure of parenting or a child being groomed by “q~eer” ideologues. The word, when used as a verb, means to deliberately render something or someone FUBAR as a radical and intentionally destructive political act. As a slur against gays and lesbians, it has only been “reclaimed” by sexual deviants looking to normalize the unthinkable, ride the coattails of normal LGBs’ hard-fought acceptance into mainstream society, and “drag” children along with it. If you are of the mentality that a “trans or q~eer child” is something that 1) exists and 2) is to be celebrated, please do not have kids. Most likely you should be under a restraining order barring you from contact or interaction with them.

- HRT was never meant to be used in wrong-sex applications. It is not only experimental, it is harmful quackery predicated upon the validity of woke medicine, and it should be outlawed for these deceptive and destructive purposes. These powerful drugs are used in serious applications such as for cancer patients, to treat symptoms of menopause, or to chemically castrate sex offenders. It is a “treatment” for something (gender nonconformism) that is not an illness. It was used in the conversion therapy of the brilliant gay scientist Alan Turing, who committed suicide rather than be rendered a eunuch. HRT prescribed under these applications is barbaric.

- Tattoos are elective body modification. No one ever argues that not getting a tattoo will cause someone to commit suicide or that tattoos are “life affirming care.” It is also not legal to get them under the age of 18, while gender butchery is being done to minors, again under the guise that it is “healthcare” rather than unethical cosmetic surgery. Tattooing is not covered by health insurance, and no one is being punished for not “affirming” someone as a zebra if he or she wishes to have full-body zebra stripes tattooed. But we see your obvious dig at JKR for calling this BS out. It’s tiresome and nobody believes it anymore.

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Sonnet, Calidris & TheKnitta #transphobia ovarit.com

Even 10 year olds know you're a man
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( Sonnet )
He’s a man. But if I found out my kids were filming themselves singling-out and humiliating strangers at the fair like a roving pack of discount bullies, I would blast them into space.

( Calidris )
I'd have zero problems if my kids humiliated a man who's wearing their reality as a sex costume. I'd say the same about someone walking around in blackface. They deserve to be humiliated because they started it by including us in their perverted sex fetish.

( Calidris )
Ooof yeah. That is very very obviously just a man. He's the kind of TIM where I wouldn't even have known he's trying to "pass" as anything. I'd just have thought it's a kind of fruity dude.

I like that the young kids can instinctively tell there's something very wrong about a dude dressing up in women's clothing. There's a reason that before "trans" took off as a state religion, crossdressers were usually represented as deeply messed up, creepy and sometimes extremely violent men like buffalo bill.

( TheKnitta )
Oh no, genocided by children! They should all be sent to re-education to worship men in dresses, and be taught to never laugh at the obvious flat-footed clowns for parading their fetish in public and thinking they can get away with it.

Grow up, sir. You know full well you went to the fair dressed like a woman for attention, because performing your fetish in public gets you off. If you can’t handle kids laughing at you for being obvious, don’t do what they’re laughing at you for.

He probably still loved the attention, though.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

( MaryDyer )
This is the chance to peak people, ladies
Very simple:

You: “I can just see Donald Trump declaring he’s a woman and being moved to a women’s prison if he’s convicted.”

Them: “What? They wouldn’t move a man to a women’s prison.”

You: “Hmm…you sure about that?” proceed to rattle off a list of names of male rapists who are living comfortably in women’s prisons

This is our chance to truly spread the word.

( Re-enacterf )
I said to my friend there are male rapists in women's prison right now, raping women. She said trans women are women, therefore there are no men in women's prison.

( Sonnet )
“Transwomen are women, so when a large, criminally dangerous male gets on top of a terrified female and forces his penis inside her without her consent, it is only women to blame.”

( realityismykink )
Did you reply that you couldn't possibly be friends with a misogynistic rape apologist, therefore you weren't friends anymore?

( Re-enacterf )
With TRA female friends, I wait for them to burn the bridge first. It was a horrific comment, but borne out of ignorance of male depravity. Unforgivable to handwave rape, yes, but she might realize what she's done some day. Male TRA friends who give me any guff I block. They know exactly what these TIMs are up to.

( Tailz1012 )
If TWAW and TWAM there are still men in women's prisons bc TIFs don't request transfers to men's prisons for obvious reasons. Regardless of your definition there are men in womens prisons. They need to decide which definition of men to kick out.

( MissBehaved )
I'm literally waiting on Trump to declare himself America's first woman president. I hope he does it. He's honestly nuts enough that I can imagine him doing this. Dems would be floundering, the whole country would go crazy haha

( BillyPilgrim )
He hates women too much to ever pretend to be one.

( SpatOutTheKoolaid )
That doesn't stop most TIMs.

( RusticTroglodyteSnazzy )
So do tims lol. Hating women is a necessary part of transition for both tims and tifs

( LunarWolf )
as opposed to most TIMs?

( Fluffy_gender )
Trump is pro trans actually. He was OK with a TIM in Miss Universe and he had a comment while running for president that he doesn't mind TIMs in women's bathrooms - after all, he also regularly barged into teen girls' changing rooms, too.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

( radfemdragon )
Politically Homeless and Worried
I was talking politics with my wife today, and we're both worried. We both feel politically homeless because we care about the climate crisis and renewable energy, but we also care about women and girls. With the utmost respect to all of my fellow Ovarites and their political persuasions, we're afraid that in countries where women and girls are losing their rights to TiMs, women will either not vote or vote for a government that doesn't care about the climate crisis and renewable energy. So in an indirect way, the colonization, cosplay, and fetishism of TiMs will contribute to a worsening of the climate crisis, because conservatives don't traditionally support Earth-friendly policies. Your thoughts?

( knitsandhooks )
I will vote for whichever party opposes gender ideology, because once women as a class are destroyed, everything is over. Women's rights can recover from everything else but that.

( pennygadget )
I'm leaning more towards this everyday. Why bother with other issues if we don't even have the basic right to define ourselves and have our own spaces? Why should I care about climate change when blue states like California are trying to turn poor women into cattle for the surrogacy industry?

( ivahian )
And California gets worse and worse every day, for a multitude of reasons :/

( Calidris )
That's where I'm at, I'm a complete single issue voter now. But let's not act like literally every single man wouldn't be a single issue voter if we tried to abolish men's human rights. Men have class consciousness. Sadly among women there's a lot who'd throw all of us under the bus without thinking for a crumb of penis approval.

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( pennygadget )

We can’t recover from a destroyed earth. Human rights have come and gone through out history. Once the earth is gone that is it

But do you really trust left wing parties to keep their promises about the environment?. The mainstream left has already back-stabbed every group and value they once stood for (free speech, women, jews, the working class, LGBs, etc) in service to the woke/trans cult. Do you really think they won't backstab the environmentalists as well?

Calidris & RighteousIndignation #transphobia ovarit.com

Men still maintin their privileges, even when they pretend to be women
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( Calidris )
The biggest slap in my face was that they left the draft the same. So you're saying they're "woman" enough to be actual women's and girl's problems, they have all the freedom to rape and harass us in the spaces we created for us? But males getting out of the draft, now that's too much!!!

Way to just go out and say, yes females are completely and utterly inferior! Males can destroy their spaces and prizes for penis titillation who cares it's just dumb women. But the draft that is actually serious business that affects real people.

( RighteousIndignation )
its less the humouring as no one really believes he's a woman, its the pandering because he wants you to pretend he is.

mathlover , SummerGrl & RusticTroglodyte #transphobia #psycho ovarit.com

( mathlover )
They always claim the men's bathrooms aren't safe. What if the women's bathrooms became infinitely more dangerous than the men's? Can we make that happen?

( SummerGrl )
The most dangerous thing to them is referring to them as men. We need to keep telling them "sir, get your dick out of the ladies room."

( RusticTroglodyte )
I will not hesitate to pepper spray a tim in the bathroom. All women need to carry personal protection devices