#transphobia

Like homophobia, but for transgender people

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

The slippery iceberg.
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( Intuiterf )
Men chest feeding babies Males using babies as a prop in their chest/breastfeeding fetish

( Spencer_Shayy )
Yup. The "trans" shit is the slippery slope. Not same sex marriage. Take note, conservatives. It ain't our fault our movement was hijacked by perverts.

( RighteousIndignation )
mark my words next up Maternity Leave will be deemed transphobic and reduced/gotten rid of.

( cranberrysalad )
I bet it will once a bunch of dads try to take advantage of the same time off as mom.

Sweeter and Savoury #transphobia kiwifarms.st

You'd have to be fool to even think that any MSM organization would ever dare to say anything that would reflect badly upon the troonsphere. They have somehow become the untouchable caste despite being proven to be nothing but a bunch of sexual misogynists and pedophiles.

This is why the west is doomed, we glorify the worst people and castigate the best. No society can operate like that for very long before reality comes trudging long to remind them whose boss.

behindyourightnow #transphobia kiwifarms.st

Good for Jude here, she's doing our job for us. The sooner more people realize that there is no pleasing these people, that the slightest and most polite digression will have them accusing you of murdering children and saying you need to be murdered yourself, the more people will simply give up on pleasing them and the more they'll be left out in the cold.

Non-TRA: Men can't get pregnant.
TRA: but have you considered.... this??
(pulls out a picture of a hairy woman with mastectomy scars who is visibly pregnant)
TRA: whoa did I just blow your mind? This man is pregnant.
Non-TRA: no that's still a woman.
TRA: learn some biology you disgusting bigot

JK Rowling #transphobia msn.com

In census data released Thursday in Scotland, there were a number of interesting findings about LGBTQ+ and gender identity, the trans population in Scotland, and religion.

One fascinating nugget, revealed later online, mingled all three data points: JK Rowling’s religion is now officially her opposition to trans equality.

The notoriously anti-trans Scotswoman and author of the Harry Potter book series identified herself on the Scottish census as a “believer in biology,” a cut-and-paste protest whipped up by the transphobic scolds at For Women Scotland, a gender-critical organization whose sole mission is to make life miserable for trans people in the sovereign U.K. state.

Woke Content Detector #ableist #biphobia #conspiracy #elitist #enbyphobia #homophobia #racist #sexist #transphobia #wingnut docs.google.com

These are some examples from the Steam group Woke Content Detector

Starfield: Contains overtly pro-LGBTQ+ and overtly pro-DEI messaging. Pronoun selection including the option for they/them. Uses body type 1 and 2 instead of male/female. Improbably diverse NPCs in all areas.

Shovel Knight: Contains overtly pro-LGBTQ+ messaging. Now includes a body swap mode that allows you to independently change whether each character is male or female for his/her body and text.

Hogwarts Legacy: Contains overtly pro-LGBTQ+ messaging. Contains overtly pro-DEI messaging. 1800s Scotland somehow has diverse, LGBTQ+ characters. uses body type instead of biological sex.

Call of Duty: Contains overtly pro-LGBTQ+ images. Multiple pride flag calling cards and emblems.

Red Dead Redemption: Contains subtly pro-DEI messaging. Several minor characters espouse modern day political sentiments. As an example: the nps Sadie Adler behaves the same way a modern day feminist would.

Skyrim: Contains subtly pro-LGBTQ+ messaging. Contains subtly pro-DEI messaging. Homosexual marriage options. An NPC in Whiterun asks you whether the sight of a strong Nord woman offends you.

Fallout New Vegas: Contains subtly pro-LGBTQ+ messaging. Many minor LGBTQ+ npcs, including 2 possible companions. The Confirmed Bachelor and Cherchex La Femme perks unlock homosexual dialogue options with certain npcs.

Dark Souls: Contains subtly pro-LGBTQ+ messaging. The boss character Gwyndolin was born a male but raised as a female and given clothes and a magic ring to help him act like a female.

Final Fantasy 7: Contains subtly pro-LGBTQ+ messaging. Contains subtly pro-climate action messaging. Forced cross-dressing. You start the game working for an ecoterrorism group.

Super Lesbian Animal RPG: Contains overtly pro-LGBTQ+ messaging. Features a lesbian romance involving the player character. Multiple non-binary npcs that use they/them pronouns.

Graham Linehan #transphobia #conspiracy grahamlinehan.substack.com

[After describing a scene from Invasion of the Body Snatchers]

I thought again of this scene on a recent visit to Ireland, where I found myself in Dáil Éireann with a group of conservative politicians and intellectuals. Just a few years earlier, we were at each other's throats during the lead-up to the abortion referendum. Now, we found ourselves on the same side, fighting the grotesque form of American cultural imperialism known as the trans rights movement.

During this visit to the Irish Parliament, I heard something that made me shiver. Apparently, the monstrosity that is the Progress Pride flag had been engraved onto a door in the building. A conquering army had planted their flag at the heart of Ireland's legislative power. But this didn’t come at the end of a war of words like the referendum on abortion—where at least each side was able to make its case. Rather, this was the result of a silent coup, a war fought in whispers and behind heavy closed doors. A war to which the enemy was not invited.

[...]

Under the Criminal Law Act of 1977, conspiracy is defined as an agreement between two or more people to commit a criminal act. This includes planning to commit offences against children. I believe that some of the meetings I’ve described today, could fall under that heading.

Bozza_Nova #enbyphobia #transphobia #dunning-kruger reddit.com

Just a reminder that "queer" doesn't really have anything to do with being homosexual or bisexual. The Marxist commies themselves call it "an identity without an essence", or in other words, it's more of a social and political outlook based on opposing "norms" than anything that can be measured.

Support the existence of L, G, B, and even certain aspects of T (it's complicated) if you want, but remember that Q is just an ideological insert used by Marxists to divide society and create the conditions necessary for a communist revolution, which is what this subreddit claims to be against.

Parents With Inconvenient Truths about Trans #transphobia #racist pittparents.com

I’m a straight white suburban woman in my fifties. And Pride month can fuck right off. You can call me Karen but my tattoos would disagree. You can call me a bigot too. You already have. And a Terf—that pathetic made-up term. I’m not radical. And only feminist as far as equal pay. The right to vote. To have a bank account and a credit card. You know, basic civil rights. The same things gay and lesbian people wanted—and received. But now… Pride is… Pride is corporations and children and paraphilias and corruption…

And in the basement of my once harmonious home, my seventeen year old daughter is decorating her jean jacket with patches and little paintings, so she can wear it to the parade in our city tomorrow. It has rainbows and that awful pedophilic trans flag. It showcases her pronouns: “HE/THEY” and basically screams: I am a straight white girl who bought the bullshit that straight white girls are evil devil oppressors and I refuse to be that in the name of KINDNESS, y’all. So allow me into your glittery sanctum, your elite hole of horrors, tunnel of anti-love. Call me a gay man PLEASE.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Will Jon Stewart’s critique help peak people?

( hypatia )
He's still in a bubble on the trans issue, or at least I'll assume that til I hear him say otherwise.

I agree that his critique last week was a much-needed breath of sanity. I'm so sick of Dems acting like everything they do is the best and anyone who disagrees is a racist Nazi.

( hypatia )
I will say, though, his willingness to ignore dogma and even mock it makes me hopeful he won't be afraid to point out absurdities.

Trans rights got as far as it did, because male sex criminals use very sympathetic young kids and gay people as a mask. Once it slips it's over.

( Pickles )
He recently did a show all about how safe and effective childhood transition is and even accused the congresswoman he had on his show of lying when she said most kids grow out of gender dysphoria. I don't really have any faith that he does any research or has any common sense anymore.

Unfortunate, because i used to really like him and his show.

( Chronicity )
Well, he’s just made himself vulnerable to GC arguments by pulling back the ideological curtain a bit. So there’s that.

JS: Trans people are only a fraction of the population and aren’t a threat to anyone!!! Stop erasing their existence!! TWAW!

GC ppl: Jon, remember when pointing out the obvious fact that Biden is old got you in trouble with people who don’t want to acknowledge the cognitive effects of advanced aging?

JS:

GC: You are engaging in the same type of gaslighting when we point out the truth about sex differences. It’s the same shit, you know. Stop embarrassing yourself.

My dream is that Bill Maher invites JS to his show and they talk about trans stuff.

( gcfemale )
He's still a die-hard TPA and he himself can't see that logical fallacy, so no?

( Chronicity )
Well, these things can change, right? He is friends with Dave Chappelle and I could see his position softening after watching him be tarred and feathered by the same crowd attacking Jon now.

Many of us peaked after watching the TRAs go into attack mode. Even TRAs can lose their faith when it cuts too close to them personally.

I’m not holding my breath but I haven’t ruled out him peaking soon if he hasn’t already.

(I suspect Trevor Noah’s shelf broke after sharing oxygen with Vic Ivy.)

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Help responding to TRA's saying separate is unequal

( Persimmon64 )
Segregation of race and sex are not comparable.

If white people committed 90% of all violent crime and 99% of all sexual crimes, if the majority of those sexual crimes were committed against black people, if only black people were able to be impregnated and only by white people, if white people had a different anatomy that allowed them to rape black people, if white people were on average bigger, stronger, and more aggressive than black people, and if white people used that strength and sexual aggression to dominate black people and dictate their lives for most of human history...I'd say black people would absolutely be justified in wanting their own spaces away from white people, even white people who claim to be black, or want to be black, or who act black like Robert Downey Junior in Tropic Thunder, especially when they were at their most vulnerable.

( Every-Man-His-Own-Football )
I'm for equality. All males should have equal access to the men's bathroom.

( mathlover )
But they do believe that separate but equal is appropriate in some situations. Eg: bathrooms can be binary with separate male and female facilities. Except the larping men want to be in the women's spaces. They don’t actually care about the ethics of "separate but equal". They only use that because everyone knows male and female spaces should be separate for some purposes, and the men want to be able to violate women's boundaries in what are very appropriately women's spaces.

( Exempli_Gratia )
This. TiPs are absolutely entitled to use sex-segregated, binary facilities with every other human on the planet, including bathrooms, locker rooms, prisons, shelters and sports. They just have to use the facility which aligns with their binary biological sex, not the one which aligns with the magic voices in their heads telling them they're special.

There's nothing discriminatory about this, either. Everyone uses the facilities according to their biological sex. If TiPs want something else, what they are demanding is not equal rights, but special privileges.

SamanthaK & Uber #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: WE KNOW THE TRANS HOLOCAUST IS NEAR 😱

( SamanthaK )
At this point I am worried about TiMs entering women's lockers rooms, bathrooms, or shelters and just killing women. When one comes in my work I am waiting for them to put a bullet in me for being a middle aged "cis" woman.

( Uber )

When one comes in my work I am waiting for them to put a bullet in me for being a middle aged "cis" woman.

When I see them around I get really nervous, like they'll know right away that I'm not buying what they're selling, and what might happen if they did know? Would I be physically, sexually, or verbally assaulted? Murdered? Will they shout in my face and look at me like they want to kill me?

I'm a small woman, unfortunately it's very easy to overpower me. Easily.

I don't believe in violence. I don't like guns, I never want to own one, I never want to use one.

I don't want anyone "genocided", I don't want ANYONE to get hurt. We are all being harmed. Both children and adults alike are being failed by every medical professional that okays putting them on dangerous drugs that will alter them and break their bodies down, give them life threatening infections, cause no doubt embarrassing incontence at a very young age, never able to enjoy sex because for one reason or another, either because it is too painful, or simply impossible, THEY are being harmed.

People who are being taken advantage of and are married to pharmaceutical companies for the rest of their lives are miserable, they are hurting. It's not just a choice that they have made, but this was done to them by someone who's profession has the oath "but first, do no harm".

Everything about this cult-like movement causes harm and trauma to women and girls, to children in general, and men are not immune to the damage that this way of thinking causes either. Clearly these people are extremely disturbed individuals that need serious help. If anyone is dangerous, if anyone is harmful, it is the men who perpetuate and encourage violence towards anyone and everyone who does not agree with them.

The loved ones of those who are spiralling into a dangerous downfall are being harmed, finding their children dead from having committed suicide...

The pain and suffering that this ideology causes is fucking endless.

I wish this fact wasn't so hard for so many people to grasp. I can't wrap my head around it.

Sorry... end of rant 😕

Matthew Hopkins #transphobia matthewhopkinsnews.com

Juan Linietsky likely thought his words good and virtuous. However, he and his colleagues seem to lack understanding of the polarised nature of the debate and the strong and legitimate views held by the other side. He was seen as making his own tribal statement of allegiance just as the @GodotEngine account was seen to when in referred to #Wokot. In your author’s opinion, some people who hold the protected belief that sex is immutable would likely see Juan as deliberately aligning himself with the full panoply of transgender ideology. An alignment with what they see as the invasion of women’s spaces and the sexual abuse of children by irreversible genital transition surgery.

Morgan Blackhand #transphobia #wingnut #conspiracy fanverse.org

The only weirdo cult these days are those LGBTQP+ schizos who think chopping off your dick will make you into a woman, and those left-leaning nutjobs trying to assassinate their opposition every other week. Then failing every single god damn time.

There are no trolls in this thread. What we have got here is an unironic lobotomized vegetable getting beat into a greasy smear. Who is viable to reach for the nearest noose, and caress it affectionately like an old friend.

"Someday, Noose-Chan. Someday..."
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various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Replace the TiMs gender argument with Religion

( DurableBook )
Hope this logic gets through to more people. I've been saying for ages, in response to the "TRANS PEOPLE EXIST" bullcrap: I know Christians exist and I still don't believe in souls. I know trans people exist and I still don't believe in gender identities.

( realityismykink )
I use this, too. I'm Christian, and if someone doesn't believe Jesus is her Savior, she's not denying my existence. Someone who doesn't believe God spoke to Joseph Smith through a rock in a hat isn't denying the existence of Mormons. Someone who doesn't believe Mohammad is the one true prophet isn't denying that Muslims exist.

In fact, TIPs deny their own existence when they insist they aren't their actual sex. A man in a dress insisting he's not a man in a dress is literally denying his own existence. If TIMs truly were no different from women, they wouldn't be trans.

( Clarus )
Transgenderism is basically religion, and unfortunately a lot of atheists didn't really get rid of religion but adopted new ideologies like transgenderism. I think the trans-movement took advantage of the people who are looking for something to follow.

( pennygadget )
If trans is accepted in any capacity, it should be treated like a religion. We can make some accommodations for their costumes; but men don't get to dress like anime prostitutes at work. And males don't get to take over female spaces nor compell others to use their language. They can believe whatever they want in private. But the public shouldn't have to deal with it

( neonbandit )
Don't forget falsifying official documents. They shouldn't be able to claim to be a sex they are not on drivers license, passport or retroactively on their birth certificate. Those documents are not there to validate inner feelings.

Decentralise Party #racist #homophobia #transphobia #wingnut #magick #conspiracy decentralisep.substack.com

The rainbow flag or pride flag is a symbol of the LGBT subversion movement that has a significant and obvious meaning to the Jews.

The Seven-color version was discontinued due to unavailability of pink fabric in 1978–1979, which is why the modern LGTBQ flag retains only six colors. The number of colors of the original design is meant to symbolize the seven-branched Jewish Menorah. The Menorah speaks of the creation of the world in seven days, and the number of bands of the rainbow is also the connection with ancient Kabbalah.

In Kabbalah, specifically in the Zohar, the appearance of the rainbow with its seven colors represents the prism of the pure light of the one (Ein Sof), which separates into the spectrum of the rainbow. Each color represents different aspects or attributes (Sefirot) through which the divine interacts with the universe.

The rainbow in Kabbalah symbolizes this process of emanation. Diversity is found in the spectrum of colors, while there's an underlying unity in the unrefracted white light of the Ein Sof. Therefore, the flag serves as a symbol of unity within diversity; this is why they chose it specifically for the LGBTQ subversion movement.

In addition, the seven colors of the rainbow symbolizes the Seven Noahide laws. The Noahide Laws, also known as the Seven Laws of Noah, are a set of universal moral principles Jews will impose on gentiles in the world to come (Olam Ha-ba).

These laws are considered the bare minimum of what God expects of humanity, and transgressions are punishable by death, specifically beheading. This concept is related to the story of Noah and the rainbow. The covenant with Noah means a new beginning, & is found in Genesis 9:8-17.
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This is why the Noahide flag, which features the seven colors of the rainbow, is seen everywhere. The Jews proliferate this symbol to send a message that the world is nearing its rebirth.

For us Gentiles, the LGTBQ flag symbolizes the coming of a mass extinction event & The End Times.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Am I going to hell for doing this (info on comment)
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( MaryDyer )
Some ftm decided to make a Google spreadsheet so people could anonymously report transphobic businesses.

I decided to have a bit of fun.

( realityismykink )
That sounds like a handy list of businesses I'd love to support if I have the opportunity.

( BellaBlue )
Step 1. Figure out which brands are most popular among the TIP.

Step 2. Report all their favorite brands of the buzzword offenses.

Step 3. Enjoy show.

( Alalies )
They all love Starbucks for some reason. And IKEA because blahaj.

( pennygadget )
I may get a new Reddit account just to do this! 🤣

( RusticTroglodyte )
LOL someone should report r/actuallylesbian and other subs tims have invaded

( phoenixia )
Omg that's a great idea 🤣

( dragonheart )
If someone has a throwaway account, please report r/actuallesbians for homophobia.

( IrishTheFrenchie )
They sure do love their lists.

Someone else used to love lists. His name rhymes with Mitler. So did this other guy whose name rhymes with Malin.

( VestalVirgin )
Oh yes.

"Don't buy from "TERFs" ... you know, that reminds me of something I learnt in history lessons at school. In Germany.

( neonbandit )

So we wanted to come up with a way for people to report bad establishments if you've been treated badly or received transphobia while there.

So we wanted a way to collectively identify, call-out, and harass businesses that don't tow the line with our ideological beliefs.

Hopefully this will help us all stay safer.

Hopefully we can pressure into silence those with beliefs that conflict with our own.

( MaryDyer )
I think we should all start submitting bogus reports. I’ve done three so far. Latest one is a fictional OBGYN practice run by Dr. JRR Rowling, who refused to examine a penis and then pulled out a lightsaber before transforming into Hitler lol

Jacques1194 #transphobia kiwifarms.st

I'm copying and pasting what I said on the main thread with these "suicide attempts". Even if we believed the majority of these people were happy with "gender affirming care" all this proves to me is that these people are delusional. If they think they're changing their gender/sex all because they pumped themselves full of drugs, or think that their inside out dick turned into a vagina then they are delusional. The fact that they think they changed their sex because they removed certain organs just screams enough to me that these people are delusional. Look at how much Tony gets angry when people "misgender" him. Tony really believes he transitioned into a woman. In fact, there was a thread where he straight up argued with people that his neo vagina operates like a real vagina. Tony has no way of knowing what a real vagina is like, so his statements are just his delusions.

Tanana , puppy_cat & JACKANDJILL #transphobia ovarit.com

( Tanana )
Gender ideology is turning misogynistic men even more misogynistic
I've been thinking about that a lot lately. I firmly believe that all men know they are men no matter what special identities they might claim. They know they just need to lie and the handmaidens go along, and sadly does the law in some cases. They know they are using a new way to get what they want. The fact so many women accept their lies and just say "yes you are a real woman" is just another reason for those men to see women as weak and stupid and their misogyny grows. [...] And the list goes on. They all know they are lying. And the way they get cheered on by many women just makes things worst. But it's not just about the TiMs, the bigger problem is about all the other misogynistic men witnessing this. They too know men are men. And watching women going out of their way to protect these dudes in dresses surely push them to think that women really are dumb. Sadly we live in a men dominated world where women as a sex class we can't afford to be perceived as a bunch of idiotic beings and the handmaidens just make it so much worse. I am sure most of you already understand that for a while but lately in every TRAs BS I see this and it enrages me. [...]

( puppy_cat )
And some of the most misogynistic men go AGP. A guy that tried to date me in high school and later sexually assaulted me, who was also addicted to porn and a huge misogynist, tried to claim he was trans years later. I knew a misogynistic creep MRA who was also a pedophile (wrote a post about him some months back on here, too) claimed he is trans and changed his name. I know so many stories like this. Horrible, despicable men completely want to take over our spaces and trample our rights because it's enjoyable to them and they're porn-addicted freaks.

( JACKANDJILL )
I assume most TIMs are just porn obsessed perverts.

I do think some TIMs have dysphoria stemming from growing up around rampant homophobia.

I think the porn obsessed pervert TIMs are the ones that tend to be most narcissistic and seek the most attention and drama, while the TIMs with dysphoria from childhood homophobia tend to try to blend in and not draw attention.

Regardless of what kind of TIM someone is, nobody should be playing along with this nonsense and TIMs should never be allowed in single sex female spaces.

various commenters #transphobia #conspiracy ovarit.com

Biden Admin Pours $1 Million Into Studies Aimed At Denying There Are Only Two Genders

( pennygadget )
There are only two genders/sexes. Intersex is a medical condition and trans is bullshit

There. I will take my $1 million dollar check now

( wildclovr )
I don't care. The house always wins. No matter how much money they want to pour into it, there will still only be two genders.

( Researcher1536 )
Mother Nature, that ol' TERF.

( Women1st )
It’s amazing how anti-science all the trans BS is. They literally have to pump money into colleges to promote propaganda and lies. It wasn’t enough to pump this garbage into elementary, middle, and high schools tying it to federal funds.

Then, WPATH says systematic review of studies isn’t possible. The WPATH, HRC, American Academy of Pediatrics, etc ALL stifle dissenting opinions. This is anti-science as science requires an inquisitive nature and repetition to show effect.

They’re pumping money into absolute lies. They want our kids to think the prescribe groupthink.

We literally have a UN trying eroding laws about statutory rape and child consent.

How did so many trans, pedophiles, and sexual deviants get into positions of power? I think the answer is they’ve always been there, but now they are encouraged to “be themselves” and publicly profess their sexual proclivities.

misandry-is-justified #transphobia tumblr.com

it’s always coddling for “trans women” in the trans movement and “trans women” are at the forefront of all trans related healthcare and movements.

this proves that they are men because even “cis” women’s healthcare doesn’t get the level of attention that “trans women” do.

“trans men” are only ever brought up as an afterthought because the trans movement is anti women to the core.

#gender critical

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Transgender ideology drives away longtime Democrats Disenchanted liberals are changing sides or refusing to vote

( hard_headed_woman )
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. - Voltaire

This is what I worry about. Are we going to have to say that "2 + 2 = 5" someday? Just how far can these people push absurdities on us?

People in swing states need to vote for Harris.

( samsdat )
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. - Voltaire

Exactly. Gender ideology isn’t a “single issue” because it is actually about whether or not we recognize reality and truth. I will probably vote for Harris, because the Republicans also refuse to recognize reality on certain issues (particularly the environment), but I am tired of gender ideology being treated in such a dismissive reductive way on this site, of all places, and being shamed, as a woman, by other women, for thinking it is much bigger than that.

( thesnorkmaiden )
Seriously. The few people who know my entire terfy stance still don't understand my political dilemma (I'm in Canada, but will be facing a similar choice soonish). If I mention something about how it's going to be impossible to know what to do, they look at me like I'm completely crazy, like trans-ideology is a super niche and somewhat silly thing to factor in. Then I say something emotional about the rights of an entire half of the population, or compelled speech, or acknowledging the simple truth... then I tear up and my lack of sanity is confirmed for the other person. It's enough to actually drive me crazy!

( notsofreshfeeling )
A vote for Harris is a vote for 2 + 2 = 5 though.

( syntaxerror )
Yep. At least I can still tell the anti abortion republicans that they’re fucked. The Democratic Party is pushing for things like thoughtcrimes. Pass!

( Lilith-Fair )
I don't think this is really happening. I'll believe it when I see it.

( twinklebarbie )
Me! I’m not voting for Harris due to gender ideology. My whole family as well.

( AlwaysOrddu )
Yeah, same. I'd rather refight the abortion issue than have to, you know, fight to have reality acknowledged by the federal government.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

If Trump wins the election, he could launch a ‘catastrophic’ rollback of LGBTQ+ rights | LGBTQ+ rights | The Guardian

( Lipsy )
Free advertising for the Trump campaign right here

( PeregrineWitch )
Seriously, if there was ever an article to tempt me into voting for him, it's this one. Especially after reading Exulansic's substack about the mother of two dead at 35 of kidney disease, 15 years after 'transitioning.' And yet saving teenage girls from these atrocities is the 'catastrophe.'

( sylviasmushrooms )
If Kamala was going to roll back TQ+ privileges in favor of women’s rights, she would have my vote 100% instead of letting my eyes wander to 3rd party kooks who at least know how to use all the parts of the buffalo. 🤷‍♀️

( Lilith-Fair )
Even if we're talking about Trump, if I'm being rational here, what exactly is he planning to do that will be catastrophic to LGB rights? Reverse gay marriage? He has no authority to do that. Adopt regulations to discriminate against LGBs or even the TQs against employment or housing? That's unconstitutional. So how exactly is he a threat to the LGB in terms of law and policies?

( PeregrineWitch )
He's not a threat to the LGB. The article makes it clear it's (as ever) all about the T now.

( Arenlaef )
I love that women are facing the government monitoring their pregnancies in some states and inquires if they miscarry, but a 40-year-old dude not being allowed to use the heccin' validating girls changing room at a teen clothing store when he's trying on his mini-skirt is the real problem. Also, this is not rollbacks for "LGBTQRDCDRD12erfh&" people here. It's literally just rollbacks on trans bullshit.

Again, Donald Trump bragged in 2015 that gay people loved him. In 2024 when we're facing pushback from the GOP it's 100% because of the TQ. The Republicans were ready to move on and then they were given the golden ticket to target us again. LGB and TQ have nothing in common. Get the hell away from us and stop ruining our progress.

various commenters #transphobia #conspiracy ovarit.com

( Torreflor )
Before this madness, didn’t women used to talk to each other about health and safety?
How much of this gender madness is just a plot to prevent women from talking to each other about birth control, dating men, safety, while dating men, herbal ways of dealing with periods and pregnancy and childbirth. I’ve heard of folk magic and folk healing from my Appalachian ancestors and my African ancestors.women would give each other tips like drinking okra water before childbirth so that you don’t have tearing or straining. How much of that knowledge and wisdom will be lost if we literally cannot speak to each other privately?

( pennygadget )
I honestly think this is part of the reason men are spreading this trans dogma. If we cannot gather without male supervision, we cannot compare notes. We cannot have "whisper networks". We cannot share information and organize politically. We cannot share tips for protecting ourselves. And we cannot speak out against false information like "anyone can get pregnant"

This is being done on purpose

( NastasyaFillipovna )
Men have got nothing to lose from Trans ideology. They all know who the women are, and who are just cosplaying.

( samsdat )
I agree that there is an element of purpose in all of this. The whole thing might have started as a fetish in a few people’s perverted brains, but someone is taking advantage of it.

( freeradicalwoman )
Women have always had their women only gatherings disrupted my men's agendas. There are some oasis of female community but should women start "getting ideas" men would put a stop to it. The trans madness is just the latest version of disrupt and disorient all female communities and keep us isolated and not talking to each other.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Real lesbians love TIMs


( pennygadget )
No real lesbian wants cock. Nor does she want to go down on a rotting surgical wound. It doesn't matter how much these dudes try to colonize lesbian spaces and discourse. Real lesbians still don't want them

Also, if trans-women are women, than why can't this little turd just shut up and date other TIMs?. It's because he KNOWS they're not women and that they make terrible partners

( NikkiStyx )
I sometimes wonder if this dogged belief that genitals don't matter (beyond just functioning to "affirm") stems from some men's (mainly TIM's) sexuality in which the artificial presentation of gender is what is attractive, not necessarily the sex of the person. This isn't to say that heterosexual TIMs aren't attracted to women, but I'm more so considering the bisexual (or pseudo-bisexual, depending on who you ask) TIMs. This may not make any sense, but I'm curious if anyone's got any thoughts on this, even if it's to say I'm full of shit.

( delicate_silicate )
I believe you're describing performative femininity. It's why some hetero males are okay with sexual relationships with TIMs because "it looks like a woman". They aren't exclusively attracted to the female body, they're attracted to the patriarchal idea of what a woman should look like. I imagine they also have no issues wearing knock off designer clothes and fake jewelry. If it looks real enough, then it's good enough.

( NikkiStyx )
I don't know if you can even really consider those men heterosexual if they're with a TIM (given that the vast majority of TIMs retain their male genitalia/don't mutilate themselves... and also because they are men immutably due to their chromosomal makeup). I feel like this is almost it's own separate fetish category. And also suspect these men are bisexual or gay but in denial.

( VestalVirgin )
That does make sense. We know that men fuck literal objects, and male insects fuck flowers (no, that's not a birds and bees analogy, there literally is an orchid whose flowers resemble the female of a certain species of insect, and that's it's reproduction strategy)

I mean, most of it is probably just wanting to rape lesbians, but there could be a few confused individual men who just don't understand that women in general (and many men) are not attracted to the trappings of femininity, but to actual women.

BlackCirce #transphobia ovarit.com

The Denton document shows that trans was pushed surreptitiously on the population without debate by attaching it to popular causes like marriage equality and anti-bullying. As it becomes more and more open what trans rights really means (it’s not just “being kind” to people who are different), people are becoming more dismayed with it.

Trans rights means your daughter will be playing against boys in sports and have boys in the locker room with her. Trans rights means your son will be taught that he might be a girl in boy’s body at school and be provided means to “transition” without your knowledge and consent. Trans rights means your daughter or son may be punished if they refer to another student with correct pronouns. Trans rights means your right to use correct sex based pronouns at work or school may be challenged leading to loss of work and other opportunities. Trans rights means CPS can take your child if you refuse or even show signs of refusing to accept your child’s cross sex identity. Trans rights means social and familial ostracization. Trans rights means your husband may change your marriage contract by making himself your wife, retroactively making you a “lesbian” against all common sense and your lived experience. Trans rights means your mom might legally become your dad. Trans rights means if you see a man go into a women’s restroom and you object by calling police or security YOU might be arrested or kicked out. Trans rights means a rape victim may be compelled to refer to the male perpetrator as “she” in court. Trans rights means female inmates needing birth control and abortion because male rapists are lined up to transfer into the female prisons, with the explicit intention of continuing their careers as rapists. Trans rights means seeing nonsense phrases like “her penis” in the newspaper on a daily basis. Trans rights means female soldiers who are already at high risk of sexual violence from male soldiers now have to endure showering and sleeping in the same facilities. Trans rights means no facility or service no matter how vulnerable or sensitive can be sex segregated. [...]

Rati Ionatamishvili and Georgian Dream MPs #homophobia #biphobia #transphobia newshub.ge

The Parliament of Georgia, during a plenary session, adopted the draft law "On Family Values and the Protection of Minors" in the third reading. Eighty-four deputies voted in favor

The draft law was presented by the chairman of the Committee on Human Rights Protection and Civil Integration, Rati Ionatamishvili

"The work on this initiative drew a very clear line between those who choose what – who chooses to implement the best interests of society and who carries out external orders, for whom protecting human rights is important and who supports propaganda and harmful influence, who protects minors from harmful influence and who tries to popularize issues among minors, such as sex-change operations and the introduction of textbooks with LGBT propaganda in schools and kindergartens. The fact is that the work on this initiative has driven the opposition out of the parliament. Today, the opposition is already on the run. It is important that this initiative receives the support that is the demand of our society," said Rati Ionatamishvili

The draft law regulates issues related to marriage, the adoption of minors and foster care, the use of medical procedures for changing a gender different from biological, the indication of gender in documents issued by the state, education, the dissemination of information, public gatherings, and demonstrations, as well as the disregard for biological gender in labor relations. The legislative package also defines enforcement mechanisms and those necessary for the implementation of the law

Additionally, May 17 is established at the legislative level as the Day of Family Sanctity and Respect for Parents

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Younger trans people are mostly TIFs and older ones are mostly TIMs

( FutureBreedMachine )
Why

( Jellyfishes )
For TIFs: social contagion, the horrors of female puberty and body image issues (like how eating disorders are more common in young women and girls). ETA: I'd also guess it's harder for older women to trans out since they usually have children to take care of or are too busy with their lives and careers to spend time navel-gazing.

For TIMs: fetishes and mid-life crisis. Like a person from twitter said: older men are even less attractive to women, so one of the only ways for them to be able to get close to us is by pretending to be female.

( Archie )
I think it's a natural consequence of gender ideology being massively spread to teenagers.

Gender ideology is equivalent to how conservatives told women that they should stick to gender roles. A woman is dumb, submissive, with few hobbies. If you like maths, climbing to trees or prefer legos to dolls, then you're a man. In comparison, being a man looks like much more fun.

Being a woman sucks so much in this ideology. Of course young women who believe in it will start identifying as anything else.

A few years ago they would have been called tomboys and could live their life, today they risk being pushed down a lifelong medical pipeline including a double mastectomy before their majority.

Non binary people are those who realize that they don't fit the stereotypes, but who did not reject gender ideology and try to adapt it to their personality somehow by creating additional genders (instead of recognizing that almost no one fits stereotypes and gender doesn't exist).

( MaryDyer )
It largely comes down to male sexuality.

Males transition largely due to sexuality (fetish).

Females transition largely to escape male sexuality (sexual abuse, exploitation, the male gaze at a young age, etc).

( lucky )
I completely get this. You see TIMs masquerading as women according to their idea of what a woman is. You tell young women that this is, in fact, what it means to be a woman. And to many of them the response is naturally "well, I guess I'm not a woman then."

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

( jvsmine )
let me explain this.

trans people read Harry Potter and feel that they are special, like Tom Riddle.

NORMAL people read it and feel like Harry, like they found their community, like they're not special or a freak at all, in fact they're painfully average.

trans people think they are Harry. they think they are special because marked as the Chosen One etc etc but this is not how Harry felt about that. TOM RIDDLE felt special, singled out. trans people are either just so fucking stupid, or so fucking deep into playing pretend that they don't realize this. the trans are Voldemort. always have been.

( Spencer_Shayy )
😂 especially because I've seen them complain about Voldemort being "deadnamed" when Dumbledore called him Tom.

( RusticTroglodyte )
The Deatheaters are the perfect parallel to trans ideology. It's RIGHT THERE and they really don't get it. They don't see it and it's baffling to me

( BeachBleach )
Sometimes I see TiMs posting with some actual self-awareness of how ridiculous the whole attempt to trans is, and they give up because they realize they will never look like a tiny feminine girl. If they are lucky they will stop the hormones and stop the pretending and realize they are men. Of course they hate their bodies and are pursuing an impossible dream, which will probably eventually kill them through drugs and surgery.

The whole concept of "going through the wrong puberty" is horrific to me.

Rick Moran #transphobia pjmedia.com

Bow's girl's soccer team was playing a game against Plymouth Regional High School last week despite protests from Bow's parents that one of the Plymouth players was not a biological female.

The parents first tried approaching their school's athletic director. He was very apologetic, telling them his hands were tied. A federal judge had ruled that "the term ‘girl’ includes males who identify as female.”

The parents decided to stage a silent protest. Several of them wore pink wristbands with "XX" printed on them to signify the two "X" chromosomes that biological women carry in their DNA.

None of us should be surprised by this. In order to force conformity to the belief that boys can be girls simply by saying so, radical advocates will shatter the First Amendment to do it.

There is no room for opposition, legal though it may be. There isn't even room for opposing thought given that it's punished by small-minded bureaucrats who exercise authority like any fascist would.

When even silent protests are punished, you know that the American experiment in self-government is in deep trouble.

Ben Bartree #transphobia pjmedia.com

America’s preeminent teachers union is now recommending that its members add Gender Queer – a treatise on the merits of transgenderism – to their summer reading list, presumably in order for any holdouts to fix their minds in time for next year’s new crop of bright-eyed children, ready to be groomed.

Parents With Inconvenient Truths about Trans #transphobia pittparents.com

I work for my local school district. Currently, the entire district is celebrating a “Month of Kindness.” Every school is decked out in decorations and posters with messages like, “Be Kind”, “One Kind Act a Day,” and “Be the ‘I’ in Kind.” Teachers are wearing kindness t-shirts, and all students and employees have wristbands. Your reaction, like mine, to a school district promoting kindness might be “Ugh!” Before trans-ideology hit my house and my family I would have welcomed the opportunity to help spread kindness at school. It would never have crossed my mind that telling kids to “be kind” could be problematic. But not anymore. Because this is what I know:

[...]

• I know that there is a trans-identified child in a 4th grade classroom in my district masquerading as the opposite sex and that some parents with kids in the class know the truth, but the students in the class do not. At least one mom is incredibly worried about losing her own son’s trust when he finds out she knew and didn’t tell him.

• I know that in an online district training presentation there is a slide of an androgynous looking school-aged child with the following specifics on the slide: age 10, he/him pronouns.

[...]

• I know that until parents complained there were two school counselors at a junior high in our district with engraved pronoun signs on their office doors.

• I know that there is a junior high in a neighboring district with a trans-identified assistant principal.

• I know that an “expert on LGBTQ+ students” has been invited to give a presentation at an annual statewide Outreach Conference I will be attending.

• I know that in this year’s annual district “Belonging and Inclusion Training” there was a whole section dedicated to the risk of suicide in LGBTQ+ students, with statistics and information provided by the Trevor Project, an activist organization that gets money “supporting LGBTQ+ students at risk for suicide”, which of course is a conflict of interest.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Why do older women fall for gender woo?

( labelle )
Dare I say, race also plays a factor. A lot of the older women falling for this nonesense are white women, and I think it has a lot to do with not wanting to offend.

( shewolfoffrance )
Totally agree. Gender woo, in general, seems to be predominantly white. I think for some it's a shortcut out of the "privileged oppressor" class.

( Spencer_Shayy )
Yup. It's also the result of white guilt. The ones who want to get out of being the "privileged oppressor" will adopt a "gender identity" or pretend they're some flavor of "LGBTQ". The ones who don't do that will spend the rest of their life self-flagellating and atoning for the "sin" of being white and/or "cis".

I used to be way more of a "libfem" riddled with white guilt. I know how they think.

( brusquette )
I think a part of it is also not being as online.

Truthfully, I did not find the idea of existing socially as a woman so ridiculous. At one point I probably would have been a trans med. The reality is the goalposts moved to insist that sex is just not real, and to deny us any terms to differentiate our sex based oppression, or to call out when TIMs are being misogynistic.

If they had stayed in their own lane, I could understand that some people really do feel a discordance with their appearance and that societies conflation of gender conformity with sexuality makes that difficult. "Transbians" can't really live as effeminate gay men, because they are actually straight men. Yet being effeminate will still always make others homophobic towards a straight man, and even doubtful of his sexuality.

The reality is for many older women, they're not online enough to see all of the details of this. I probably wouldn't be near as peaked if I weren't as online, and if I didn't know as many TIPs IRL.

Of course, an aspect of this is that I can openly say that here and gender critical feminists will have polite disagreement with me about it, without any of them screeching that I'm literally genociding them or trying to convince me I have to fuck them.

Richard Peterson Kuthumi (Indian in the Machine) #crackpot #wingnut #transphobia #ufo #racist #conspiracy indianinthemachine.com

Guys… everything you are seeing regarding Donald Trump and the 2024 election, supports the theory that the original Donald Trump is DEAD, and that the imposter will hand over the election to Harris on a silver platter!

1. He’s just not the same dude, in the last few years. His behaviour is different, and YOU KNOW IT! I know it’s hard to believe the original is DEAD but there’s nothing wrong with considering it.

2. So why is Donald Trump letting rubber-faced Jewish “Israel First” tranny touch him with ‘her’ boob in public? Could it be we’re looking at an actor? YES… SOMEONE WHO IS ISRAEL FIRST he says he can’t tell her what to do, as she is on his CAMPAIGN PLANE. Yup… leader of the free world, can’t tell ‘her’ what to do.
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7. Then when there was that assassination attempt… he was clearly seeing showing his hand to the camera, that should have been covered in blood!!

Guys… all of this for me at least, supports the idea that the original Trump is DEAD! There’s no way, this is all a WHITE HAT MOVIE… unless the movie is a horror movie of betrayal of a nation.

8. Does it make sense, that humanity needs GALACTIC MILITARY INTERVENTION?
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13. Folks, I know this is all very confusing, but the only thing that makes sense, is that the original Trump is dead… for me, at least. <...> LET’S FACE IT, THIS WHOLE TIME, HE COULD HAVE PINCHED JOE BIDEN’S MASK IN PUBLIC, AND SHOWN THE WORLD, THERE ARE IMPOSTERS AMONG US. As if all this isn’t bad enough, there’s the CLONE ISSUE.

The US election campaign REAL ISSUES ARE;

a. depopulation

b. transhuman agenda

c. new fake plandemic

d. millions of spaceships in our solar system

e. the end of the Piscean age and the beginning of the golden age

f. the fake sun that even the sunflowers are turning away from

g. the cellphone towers, and how they work with graphene oxide and other technology to create fully controllable and mutatable programmable humans who have no more free thought.

Dave Blount #transphobia #homophobia #fundie moonbattery.com

[From “Transsexual Ushers Us Into Anteroom to Hell”]

Transgenderism is an unholy ideology intended to pervert God’s order at the most fundamental level. Those who succumb to it are by definition psychotic, believing themselves to be members of the opposite sex. Unsurprisingly, they are often less than wholesome:

A trans-identified male property manager from Oklahoma, who began transitioning to a woman in prison, admitted to having previously decapitated a friend while still living in Oklahoma. Alex Ray Scott, 28, was in a New York court Monday to plead guilty to the murder of Kenneth Savinski, 64

Scott ran from Oklahoma in 2019 after being accused of molesting a five-year-old boy – but before leaving, he dismembered Robin Skocdopole, 63, with a chainsaw

As the fundamental transformation of America unfolds, we find ourselves living in a horror movie. It will get darker with every day liberals drag us closer to their destination hell

Gay dating apps may not be the wisest place to make friends:

Savinsky met Scott on a dating site and got more than he bargained for when Scott left him with a slashed throat and cuts to the head after their first encounter

Authorities obligingly put Scott in with the women at Rikers Island

Please welcome Alex Ray Scott to the Transsexual Violence Hall of Horrors

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

( Riothamus )
They've been transing kids for a decade. Where are the success stories?

This "childhood transition" business took off in the mid-2010s. The first cohort of children who were exposed to Lupron for gender issues has reached adulthood. Yet we never hear Munchie parents bragging about how well their super special "sons" and "daughters" are doing in academic and professional life.

One would think that if any of them were thriving the trans lobby would praise them to the high heavens and make celebrities of them.

( shewolfoffrance )
I think there are a lot of superficial "success stories", but if you dig a little deeper, it doesn't look so good, or it won't in the future. With people like Jazz Jennings and Kim Petras, their career prospects seem to be pretty much being Professionally Trans (that's also true for a lot of TiPs who trans as adults and end up become permanent e-beggars, content creators, or activists). Furthermore, many of them will suffer from health problems as they grow older, but we really don't know what that will fully entail for decades.

( DietCokeAddict )
Good point, but the TRAs will just claim that “successful” transitioners are now living in stealth and nobody can tell they’re trans. “You’ve probably walked past thousands of trans people today and not noticed!”

You’d think some of the successful ones would be involved in the cause, though - every trans activist or famous trans person I’ve ever seen is instantly clockable. So if there are successful ones, they clearly want nothing to do with the moment today.

( Architectura )
I mean... Nicole Maines and Clara Sorrenti are two, but you're right: they're not used as poster children, likely because if they're the standard of what trans males should look like, the AGPs will riot because they actually both pass pretty darn well.

And now that I think about it... The movement kind of relies on people not passing, because that's what allows the AGPs in bathrooms. No one is going to blink if Nicole or Clara goes in a women's restroom, and so the bathroom laws are moot. The AGPs need it to be acceptable/law for visible males to go in women's restrooms.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

There will never be a trans-inclusive "All-Girl" space
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( Calidris )
Is this a response to "actual lesbians": whoops all penis!

I mean he's not wrong. Choose, young TIM, trans inclusive means you're just in a gigantic sausage party with your TIM friends because all the lesbians either get banned or leave. Or you get the TERF space where the lesbians you so direly want to coercively rape will not let you in because THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT.

But there's a secret third option: you could take off the cheap party city wig, wipe off the unskilled makeup, throw away the hooker boots and stripper heels and just be who you are, maybe that's a feminine straight man or even an autistic man. And then you can find a straight woman (or bi), you know the wimminz who genuinely do appreciate dick. And you could have a normal life and maybe find some happiness instead of horrifying, disgusting and scaring the ONE kind of woman who does not do penis and keep being alone, as a medical patient for life and generally looked upon with distrust because you're living a lie.

( Women1st )
TIMs will never understand why women require sex-based protections. This is bc they are not women and will never be women, this will never understand womanhood.

We can talk about why people think this way at another time.

( VestalVirgin )
TIMs understand very well that we require male-free spaces so that they cannot rape us. TIMs are more likely to be sex offenders than the average male (who is already very likely to be a rapist in his heart).

They just don't want us to be able to get away from them.

( Spencer_Shayy )
Weird how the terms "female" and "woman" are suddenly vague, undefined terms because men have decided they can become women. Y'all certainly didn't have trouble defining "woman" when you were telling us we can't vote or open our own bank accounts or get a job outside "caring" roles.

Padraig Martin #wingnut #pratt #conspiracy #sexist #transphobia identitydixie.com

[From “When Voting Fails”]

The purpose of voting was largely to provide some form of “revolutionary” capacity to change the leadership of a people without violence[…]In effect, every two, four, or six years, the American republic provided a vote that at least made the people believe things might change without the need for guns[…]
Now comes Trump – yet again. This short article is not about Trump, per se. Rather, it is about the continual belief in voting as a form of implementing change. More importantly, it is about the moment in which that belief no longer exists[…]
There are a great many Baby Boomers who believe in voting and Trump because they have been conditioned for generations to believe voting works[…]
It is clear that voting – a process dominated by one generation for almost half a century – is losing its grasp on future generations. That is dangerous for ruling elites[…]
It is not an accident that total societal change has been inspired to emasculate the populace. Younger men not only have lower testosterone levels year over year (I personally believe due to some form of chemical introduction), but masculinity itself is under constant attack. Transgenderism is simply a byproduct of the war on men. Notice that the females harmed by the transgender movement are athletic women who would be inclined to gravitate toward athletic men, creating genetically athletic offspring. The totality of the movement to emasculate – from girl power narratives to deconstructing masculine social structures to promoting effeminate males (e.g., “Big Bang Theory” television show) to transgender therapies[…]– is part of a defensive posture to guard against the consequences of an eventual collapse of voting

When voting fails, populations rise violently. It is helpful to have a nation of emasculated men if you want to remain a tyrant. After all, it is hard to shoot at the ruling class with your legs crossed, sipping on a Pumpkin Spiced Latte, and wearing a dress

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Transgender activists stage die-in at Florida DMVs

( tuff_terfies )
Can we talk about the callousness of a die-in here? ACT-UP did them bc people--granted, mostly men, but not all--were ACTUALLY dying in droves. To steal this concept for a fucking box on a DL? horrifying.

( Spencer_Shayy )
I was thinking that too. It's so fucking offensive to those out there who were or are actually dying. Nobody has ever died because they couldn't be "trans". They're so goddamn ignorant and entitled.

( tuff_terfies )
I want to start going to these things and counting the number of white men (assumedly straight) there are at these things. I have a theory that this is on the spectrum of white men feeling victimized that got Trump (and will likely again) elected to office. Any chance a privileged white dude can cry victim, they'll take.

( Women1st )
In another case of literal genocide. TRAs protest at Florida DMVs because they can’t commit fraud on their government documents.

I would think this isn’t the best place to lie down and protest as their are teens behind the wheel…

( Spencer_Shayy )
LMAO you will not die if you don't get to falsify your drivers license.

This is so funny. What a bunch of losers. Please get some real problems.

( MarthaMMC )
The point is that they want a state id to legally declare them as the sex they want to claim instead of what they are. Drivers licenses are used as legal id for a lot of things. & with real id rules, are required for flying unless you also have the less universal one or state id you have to have a passport as well. Changing sex markers on birth certificates, state id, drivers licenses, passports, etc. creates a legal precedence that enshrines gender ideology into law & declares that sex can be changed. They claim it is for safety so their id matches their presentation so they won't be "outed" & thus in danger of violence from possible transphobes. But realistically, most TIMs do not "pass" & even if they get id changed, ppl will know they are trans. But id changes also will normalize gender ideology claims so that society will get habituated to accepting that sex can change. It will go from being a legal fiction to normalizing the downgrading of the importance of biological sex.

Ellexoh , Hex & samsdat #transphobia ovarit.com

( Ellexoh )
Grandparents. And losing your grandchild to trans-creep
I call it trans-creep because it crept up on me, as the grandmother of a boy who decided he wanted to be a girl. Not as a young child but (the first I knew of it) in his mid-teens. This boy was my world, but after moving to & living in another country, as well as having (it seemed to me) unlimited access to social media, meant he was exposed to an online world he was left to navigate alone. I will admit....this is my view entirely because not once did anybody in either side of the boy's family sit down with me and have an open conversation, or ask me how I felt about what was happening.

Today I have no contact with my grandson, an estranged r'ship with his mother (my daughter), strained r'ships with my other children because of my gender critical stance (all of us live in NZ) and no contact at all with the paternal family because they live overseas. I did contact the other grandmother in the US and she is sympathetic but said that although she "had a very big problem with that at first. (my grandson's father) was the one who helped me through it." So they all appear to be captured by it. And I don't even know how often there is contact with the family overseas because nobody talks to me

I can count the number of grandparents with a trans-grandchild on one hand. And I only know about them in an online capacity.

Breathe....phew! :)

( Hex )
Every time I read similar stories, it reminds me of the people I lost to addiction and (almost) to Qanon. You can love them and try to persuade them with logic and love, but the addiction is often stronger. I would hope that he is not addicted to porn in his young age but if he has unlimited access online then who knows.

Trans is also addictive because of the sense of community, and if he is ostracized or doesn't have strong community in real life, then they will make their own community online. Of course the community is built on empty words, as they find out after they trans and all their old problems remain.

I have no advice, I just click on these topics because I have young nieces and a nephew and I worry about them.

( samsdat )
I am so sorry this ideology is ripping your family apart. I hope your grandson and his parents come to their senses soon.

Pickles #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: TRA Arguments/Claims


A few of their arguments that get my goat most:

- when we read about atrocities that happen to women in developing countries because they are women and feel a sadness and outrage that you can only feel as another woman and we say something like "sex is not a choice. Look what is happening to these women because of their sex. Our sex has been used against us for centuries across every society and it is horrible gaslighting to pretend it doesn't exist, it's a choice, or it can be changed." And they pretend their takeaway is that we've said "at least the Taliban knows what a woman is!!" Or "i agree with guys who take child brides! We both know who women are!" It's infuriating. As though pretending we don't know the difference between the sexes will magically make it so women and girls are no longer exploited for being women and girls.

- Riley Gaines said that men shouldn't be in women's chess. She very clearly said something like "there's no point in having a women's category if you're going to let men in." And they were running around saying "Riley thinks every transwoman on earth is better than every cis woman on earth at chess. How sexist!!" My guy, there are reasons for wanting things that are not a dick swinging contest. Do you think we don't want you in our bathrooms because you think we think you're better at peeing? We don't want you in sororities because we think you'll be too good at networking or braiding hair (i wasn't in a sorority, I am not sure what analogy to use here).

I do often try to find points of agreement bc it seems like there has to be something. One thing I find myself disagreeing with GC people about is what someone owes to the creative talent behind their rise to stardom. Don't get me wrong, I love JKR and I think all those actors who turned on her are wrong and stupid, but I don't think that actors should be compelled to agree with someone just because his/her work made the actor famous.

Anyway just random thoughts while my sick baby sleeps on me 😴 💤

Kevin Downey Jr. #transphobia #crackpot #conspiracy pjmedia.com

Democrats are either too stupid to realize that every attempt to imprison or assassinate Trump makes him more popular, or they are so hateful they can't keep themselves from trying anyway.

Here we are, three assassination attempts in two months. I feel that if, God forbid, the animals were to succeed and kill Trump, there would be a 9/11-like, nationwide explosion of patriotism that would sweep the Republican Party into offices nationwide and all but render the Democrats extinct. There would also be the possibility of serious civil upheaval, which is likely exactly what the pinkos want.

The lizard people aren't smart enough to recognize Trump for what he is, a movement that won't be stopped by a bullet.

That said, please tell your pink-haired demi-gender-in-law to put on zhis big-boy panties, stifle zhis hatred, and stop trying to kill Trump. And while you're at it, ask zhim if zhe wants a pager. All the cool commies are carrying them again, and leftists hate testicles anyway.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

“They weren't raped by a penis, they were raped by a man” THEY’RE THE SAME PICTURE
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( Women1st )

They weren't raped by a penis, they were raped by a man. And that's exactly what all women, cis and trans, are trying to escape by coming to all women only spaces.

So your faux fear regarding rape is the SAME EXACT thing as a woman’s actual fear based on her living through male physical and sexual violence as well as intimidation? You DO NOT BELONG in women’s spaces. You are a man. A leopard doesn’t change it’s spots.

( Spencer_Shayy )
I bet the first guy feels like a monster because he's raped a woman before. Why else would he feel so personally attacked by that?

"Transwomen" ARE flapping their dicks around for everyone to see, though. You're ALWAYS doing it in private spaces around women and children. Not to mention, you will not SHUT THE FUCK UP about them, hence why lesbians are always complaining about you.

We don't think you're men, sir, we KNOW you are.

No "transwoman" is afraid of being raped. Not a single one of you. If you were, you wouldn't be constantly threatening to rape any woman who disagrees with you. Spare me the fucking lies. I'm so sick of these monsters.

( mathlover )
He wants to stick his penis into, or have other intimate contact with, the one small demographic of women (lesbians) who will never want him. That is rape - he's either already done it, or would do it. So yeah, he should feel like a monster, because he is.

( Women1st )
Why won’t your own spaces, trans only, keep you from faux male violence? Why do you have to dominate women’s spaces? Oh, that’s right, bc you are a male.

( MardyMcMare )
It’s nothing personal, love. Women don’t want 49% of the human population - what, about 4 billion men? - in our single-sex spaces.

Yet here you are, so self-absorbed it’s a wonder you can take yer head out yer arse long enough to scroll through reddit, thinking it’s YOU, personally, we object to.

It’s All of you, every last man, regardless of your womanly feelz.

Men.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Yet he surely doesn’t want to use male restrooms…hmm, wonder why?
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( SpringMaiden )
These people are always comparing women who don’t want to be around men to white racists. They’re constantly trying to act like women are evil for trying to protect themselves against their oppressors.

( TheChaliceIsMightier )
They consistently flip the power dynamics of who is the oppressed and who is the oppressor in those analogies.

( SpringMaiden )
Yes, and it’s exhausting and infuriating.

Women are not the white people in these analogies. Women are not privileged, and are not the sex that created entire societies around the abuse and exploitation of the opposite sex. Men did that, and women have every right to reject it and reject men from the few spaces that are given to and reserved for women in this male-built world.

These people refusing to acknowledge women as the true oppressed class here is the ultimate proof that this is nothing but a men’s rights movement.

( Itzpapalotl )
A more apt comparison to draw would be, say, a black person has PTSD from a racial attack committed by a white person, this person does their best to steer clear of whites. Maybe this person joins a club or group specifically for black people.

Then, along comes a white person who “identifies” as black, who demands entry to this group, even if it is a support group. Maybe this white person paints their face, maybe they’re really good at makeup and can appear to be black...why is this person invading a space that specifically excludes them? Why does this person want to inflict themselves on people with trauma pertaining to their race? Why?

Men of all races and nationalities are and always have been a threat to woman of all races and nationalities. Idgaf about male feelings when it comes to female safety. They can fuck all the way off with the false equivalencies - which are usually racist BS.

Sir, you are a straight, white man in a frock. Stop comparing yourself to people who have suffered actual oppression. And men of all races, keep the fuck out of our FEMALE spaces.

Parents With Inconvenient Truths about Trans #transphobia pittparents.com

There are so many elements about my child—my daughter—no, my son!—that cause me immense pain and suffering. Her—excuse me, his—artificially softened skin, the fat that rests on his hips like the curves of a woman's figure, his breasts—larger even than his mother’s!—that are now at risk for breast cancer—a condition he would probably never have had to consider, had those nefarious doctors never prescribed him those foul, harmful hormones.

How waiters and cashiers and other strangers mistakenly call him by the wrong pronouns, seeing only a woman in the body that should rightfully belong to my baby boy. How his so-called "boyfriend" only serves to encourage this delusion, as he encourages hers. It is all so terrible. So absolutely horrifying. So completely dreadful.

[...]

What hurts me the most is what I hear. It is not merely the sound of his voice, but the very essence of it when he says he loves me, when he insists that I am wrong, that if I would only "accept her," everything would be fine. It is his voice that causes me the greatest anguish, because it is not his true voice. It belongs to this strange woman who has overtaken his body, who has taken my son from me.

BlackCirce #transphobia ovarit.com

The Emperor’s New Golden Mean
Radical trans theorists believe that anyone can be any sex or gender they declare, and that reality is not chained to any objective evidence and that sex and gender can change at any time.

Radical feminists (and others) believe people are conceived as one of two sexes through a genetic process, and that sex cannot change in humans, and that sex is an objectively observable trait of organisms.

Then there are people who have declared themselves a reasonable middle ground between these two extremes. They believe that maybe sex isn’t changeable but if certain individuals meet standards of secondary sex characteristic manipulation (or if they put in significant enough effort in doing so) they should be treated as if they have changed sex, legally and socially.

This is the fallacy of the Golden Mean. No one can change sex, ever, and people who pretend that others have changed sex are lying and being unreasonable. The fact that there is another, even more unreasonable version of trans theory does not make the moderate view more correct. No matter how deeply and sincerely a man believes he is a woman, no matter how well he apes stereotypically feminine behavior or comportment or dress, no matter how much he swears he’s not turned on by what he’s doing… he’s still a man.

In English we have third person pronouns based on sex. It might be awkward to refer to a woman who has done a great job disguising herself as a man with female pronouns, but to do otherwise would be creating a false impression. Some people do it out of social pressure… guess what, that’s what the story The Emperor’s New Clothes is about!

In the story The Emperopr’s New Clothes, the crowd of people who see that the Emperor is stark bollocks naked but pretend they see his robe are not a reasonable position between the lying merchants and the child who shouts out “He’s naked!” The child is correct.

E.W. Jackson #fundie #wingnut #transphobia rightwingwatch.org

Among the speakers during the first session on Thursday night was far-right pastor and perennial failed political candidate E.W. Jackson, who fired up those in the crowd by assuring them that God will not allow Vice President Kamala Harris to become president.

“I’m also here to declare in the name of Jesus that we are not going to allow a bunch of Marxists and socialists and communists and a bunch of sexual perverts and a bunch of political power-grabbers [to] take our country and lead it in a direction that is not pleasing to Almighty God!” Jackson declared. “America is going to remain one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.”

“I’ve been praying this prayer,” Jackson continued. “‘Lord God, speak confusion into their ranks. Make it so they turn on each other, so they can’t get it straight, so they fumble over their every word, so they mess up their every strategy, so that things collapse in on them. Lord God, work your will on behalf of those who are seeking to represent you and cause those who are against you to fall flat on their faces.’ So, I don’t care how well Kamala Harris did in the debate. I’ve got news for her: She doesn’t have a strategy that can outsmart God! God is the one who is going to bring about the result that you and I are praying for. I believe that we’ve got victory that is coming on the first Tuesday in November, by the will of Almighty God.”

VestalVirgin , shewolfoffrance & cranberrysalad #transphobia ovarit.com

Geelong Grammar: Dad pulls his daughter out of $84,000-a-year private school attended by King Charles after discovering she was boarding with a transgender student

( VestalVirgin )
Well, duh. What did they think would happen?

People who can afford that kind of school can also afford a school that won't strip their daughters of all privacy and dignity and expose them to a high risk of rape and impregnation. If you want your daughter to end up pregnant as teenager, you can get that for free. No need to pay 84,000 for the privilege.

I am more surprised that not more girls were pulled - or do they have only two girls per room?

( shewolfoffrance )
I wonder how much the parents aren't saying. There are vague mentions of "support" for the TiM kid, but also "concerns" that they weren't told. I'm guessing they're terrified of getting the JKR treatment.

( VestalVirgin )
Yeah. They're willing to go along with the TWAW mantra, but they aren't okay with their daughter being the human sacrifice to the pervy male, is what I read out of that.

Perhaps a bit cynical, but I think they would have been okay with the whole thing if they'd been quietly told in advance, and had gotten the opportunity to quietly arrange for their daughter to room with actual girls.

( shewolfoffrance )
I wonder how accommodating the school would have been, and if the TiM kid's parents would have been upset if he were made to room alone.

( cranberrysalad )
They’re also upper class which is rife with trans kids. Most of their social circles probably have they/them kids and other versions of privileged children/adults co-opting oppression and attempting to buy into it (without actually having to endure oppression and certainly without acknowledging their roles in it).

Rich kids are deeply into trans activism.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

( ItsCalculated )
Did anyone once/or still enjoy but now feel averse to things TIMs grabbed onto (thigh highs, mini skirts, etc.)
I love my thigh high socks. They keep my legs warm in the winter. I still like how my light, short skirts, keep me cool in the summer. I can't think of anything else off the top of my head, but. . . I now feel kind of averse to these things because TIMs have assumed use of them. Do any of you feel the same way? Have you actually given up any of these things to them or do you refuse to surrender things you like just because some man has a fetish about it?

( StealthRadfem )
I gave up dying my hair with funny colors. I do not want to be associated with TRAs at all.

( DurableBook )
Me too, I love crazy plumage and used to get a kick out of crazy hair colors, but now I just associate them with the gender equivalent of Jehovah's Witnesses..."Hi I'm Mx. Alex, do you have a moment to talk about my pronouns??"

( Ribbon_Rabbit )
I absolutely love pastel colors, but now I can't wear light blue and pink without feeling like I'm wearing a trans flag. They ruined the Pokémon Sylveon too. It's just a cute, colorful creature- not a "trans icon".

( Blais )
I like thigh highs for sure - they're warm and I like how "slouch socks" feel. Flower crowns. Arm-warmers. All those cutesy teenage comforts.

I haven't stopped using any of them, though. And I'm not going to. TIMs will find a way to fetishize anything. I'm pretty sure that if women everywhere stopped wearing short skirts or tight clothing or bright patterns or amything "stereotypically female", and started wearing baggy fits and muted colors, TIMs would find a way to fetishize it. They're the Rule 34 guys; it's what they do. So, I see no point in surrendering what makes me happy.

( Calidris )
Late to the party but feminine men!!!!!

It used to be when I saw a man with long hair, he'd usually be some kind of alternative, goth punk or just a dude who rocks long hair and doesn't give a shit. Now I have to fear it's a TIM light. It has exactly the opposite effect too, a man confidently rocking his long hair is sexy. A TIM trying to desperately copy us to get his rocks off is the least sexy thing I could possibly imagine, just gives me the icks and the creeps.

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